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Old 07-18-2017, 06:27 PM   #1241
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Would you happen to know if Dolby Cinema uses the same DCP as regular cinemas, or do they have their own proprietary stuff, like IMAX?
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No idea. But I do think they have a closed system.
It's their own DCP in Dolby Vision HDR.


The projection system is twin 4K laser. No reason the 3D stuff couldn't be 4K if they wanted.
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:36 PM   #1242
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Default List of extremely good UHD discs

May be this question requires a dedicated thread.
But for now requesting fellow friends here to guide me.
I don't want to buy EVERY possible 4K UHD HDR disc out there, just want to buy a few to use as a reference material to show friends/family.
Are there some that you recommend with the following criteria?
- Needs to be a movie (preferably), documentary is okay too
- Source should be 4K or better (Scanned or Digital)
- Needs to have HDR
- Should not have black bars on top/bottom (ie., needs to be 16:9).
- Bright colorful shots
- Good dark scenes
- Very good audio (DTS MA), good bass
- Good background soundtrack/music
- Slow camera movements (so please no transformer type movies)
- Needs to be interesting documentary (like planet earth) OR a really good bright colorful movie (for example a typical chick flick like YOU'VE GOT MAIL)
- Not animated or kids movie
- Should be in IMDB top 250, if its a movie
- Should not be a demo disc

(I do have/love Planet Earth II, rocky mountain express)
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Old 07-18-2017, 10:45 PM   #1243
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May be this question requires a dedicated thread.
But for now requesting fellow friends here to guide me.
I don't want to buy EVERY possible 4K UHD HDR disc out there, just want to buy a few to use as a reference material to show friends/family.
Are there some that you recommend with the following criteria?
- Needs to be a movie (preferably), documentary is okay too
- Source should be 4K or better (Scanned or Digital)
- Needs to have HDR
- Should not have black bars on top/bottom (ie., needs to be 16:9).
- Bright colorful shots
- Good dark scenes
- Very good audio (DTS MA), good bass
- Good background soundtrack/music
- Slow camera movements (so please no transformer type movies)
- Needs to be interesting documentary (like planet earth) OR a really good bright colorful movie (for example a typical chick flick like YOU'VE GOT MAIL)
- Not animated or kids movie
- Should be in IMDB top 250, if its a movie
- Should not be a demo disc

(I do have/love Planet Earth II, rocky mountain express)
(sorry to change the topic)
(delete if not appropriate)
That is some pretty specific criteria.
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Old 07-19-2017, 12:29 AM   #1244
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Are there some that you recommend with the following criteria?
- Source should be 4K or better (Scanned or Digital)
- Should not have black bars on top/bottom (ie., needs to be 16:9).
- Should be in IMDB top 250, if its a movie
By my count there is exactly one film that meets these criteria: GoodFellas.

Three films on IMDB 250 with 4K source, but they are in widescreen (black bars top and bottom): Logan, Ghostbusters (1984), & Leon: The Professional

Four films on IMDB 250 but upsourced from 2K masters: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part II, Hacksaw Ridge, Mad Max: Fury Road, and La La Land.

Edit: ET is coming out in September. That would join GoodFellas as meeting the criteria and IMO is a better fit considering your other requests. Upcoming IMDB 250 UHDs are Bridge on the River Kwai, Terminator 2, Blade Runner, & Close Encounters of the Third Kind which have 4K masters but going by the database's OARs they are all widescreen.

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Old 07-19-2017, 12:43 AM   #1245
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Any good feedback on Life UHD?


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Old 07-19-2017, 12:49 AM   #1246
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Goodfellas and ET are not 16:9.
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Goodfellas and ET are not 16:9.
Oops. In that case I don't think there are any movies that will meet OP's criteria.
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Old 07-19-2017, 01:59 AM   #1248
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May be this question requires a dedicated thread.
But for now requesting fellow friends here to guide me.
I don't want to buy EVERY possible 4K UHD HDR disc out there, just want to buy a few to use as a reference material to show friends/family.
Are there some that you recommend with the following criteria?
- Needs to be a movie (preferably), documentary is okay too
- Source should be 4K or better (Scanned or Digital)
- Needs to have HDR
- Should not have black bars on top/bottom (ie., needs to be 16:9).
- Bright colorful shots
- Good dark scenes
- Very good audio (DTS MA), good bass
- Good background soundtrack/music
- Slow camera movements (so please no transformer type movies)
- Needs to be interesting documentary (like planet earth) OR a really good bright colorful movie (for example a typical chick flick like YOU'VE GOT MAIL)
- Not animated or kids movie
- Should be in IMDB top 250, if its a movie
- Should not be a demo disc

(I do have/love Planet Earth II, rocky mountain express)
(sorry to change the topic)
(delete if not appropriate)
Welp, your screwed.
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Old 07-19-2017, 02:11 AM   #1249
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Goodfellas and ET are not 16:9.
Goodfellas is, on disc anyways. It's been opened up to 1.78. Warners strike again!
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Old 07-19-2017, 09:25 AM   #1250
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Just get Pacific Rim.
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Old 07-19-2017, 11:48 AM   #1251
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Goodfellas is, on disc anyways. It's been opened up to 1.78. Warners strike again!
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GoodFellas it is then! It's a fantastic movie to have on 4K. Thank you for providing me this. Yup my criteria was weird. Thanks again!
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Stupid questions: "Master" is synonymous with digital intermediate? What would be a simple explanation as to what a DI is? Thank you.
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Stupid questions: "Master" is synonymous with digital intermediate? What would be a simple explanation as to what a DI is? Thank you.
A digital intermediate is like a workspace that everyone working in production and post production will agree on, to enable a productive workflow.

For example, a movie may shoot with several different cameras, each capturing different resolutions. Alexa IMAX in 6K, RED Weapon Dragon in 8K, GoPro in 2.7K, or even film in 35mm or 65mm.

When post production begins, all source material will confirm to a fixed resolution, commonly 2K. So regardless of which camera is used, they are either resized, cropped, scanned, adjusted, etc. to work within a 2K workflow. And since this is done digitally and it's still work in progress and not final, this is why it's known as digital intermediate, or DI for short.

This doesn't limit itself to just camera footages, visual effects and animation houses will be informed of the DI, and they will create VFX, animation and render them accordingly without disrupting the post production schedule.

The actual final delivery or finish is usually completed based on the DI. A 4K DI will finish in 4K, otherwise all that extra work will be wasted. And a 2K DI will unlikely get a 4K finish, because it may introduce undesired effects.

That's basically a rough idea. In the real world, it's far more complex than that, but I hope you understand.
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A digital intermediate is like a workspace that everyone working in production and post production will agree on, to enable a productive workflow.

For example, a movie may shoot with several different cameras, each capturing different resolutions. Alexa IMAX in 6K, RED Weapon Dragon in 8K, GoPro in 2.7K, or even film in 35mm or 65mm.

When post production begins, all source material will confirm to a fixed resolution, commonly 2K. So regardless of which camera is used, they are either resized, cropped, scanned, adjusted, etc. to work within a 2K workflow. And since this is done digitally and it's still work in progress and not final, this is why it's known as digital intermediate, or DI for short.

This doesn't limit itself to just camera footages, visual effects and animation houses will be informed of the DI, and they will create VFX, animation and render them accordingly without disrupting the post production schedule.

The actual final delivery or finish is usually completed based on the DI. A 4K DI will finish in 4K, otherwise all that extra work will be wasted. And a 2K DI will unlikely get a 4K finish, because it may introduce undesired effects.

That's basically a rough idea. In the real world, it's far more complex than that, but I hope you understand.
Very good explanation. What would be the main dufference in pq between a uhd bluray originally shot in 35mm and another one shot with say, RED 8K camera?
Why I see so many people get so excited about UHD titles from movies shot on 35mm?

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Very good explanation. What would be the main dufference in pq between a uhd bluray originally shot in 35mm and another one shot with say, RED 8K camera?
Why I see so many people get so excited about UHD titles from movies shot on 35mm?

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It largely depends on how 35mm is being translated to digital UHD.

Because celluloid film has its own unique way of capturing images, where light creates a chemical reaction on film, and digital sensors are captured with RGB information.

It's also exciting to look forward to UHD BD from 35mm films because the added 10-bit HDR, P3 WCG and a good 4K (or higher) rescan may potentially allow us a new level of appreciation that we never had before with 1080p Blu-ray.
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:41 PM   #1257
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It largely depends on how 35mm is being translated to digital UHD.

Because celluloid film has its own unique way of capturing images, where light creates a chemical reaction on film, and digital sensors are captured with RGB information.

It's also exciting to look forward to UHD BD from 35mm films because the added 10-bit HDR, P3 WCG and a good 4K (or higher) rescan may potentially allow us a new level of appreciation that we never had before with 1080p Blu-ray.
That would make sense. I cant wait to see Elvis Presley in HDR
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