List of UHDs that utilize 4K or Higher Masters - Page 105 - Blu-ray Forum

Visitor2014 · 10-23-2018, 01:46 AM

No new titles in a week?

HD Goofnut · 10-23-2018, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Visitor2014

No new titles in a week?

Well, the only 4K releases this week were Twilight and the Mamma Mia! sequel. Those probably came from 2K DIs.

ray0414 · 10-29-2018, 06:31 AM

All 4 of these should be on the list right?

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Pieter V · 10-29-2018, 09:46 AM

I'm waiting for a proper 4K shopping link for Prince of Darkness. Don't like Steelbook from Zavvi, will come back at it. Besides the release is a bit delayed.

HD Goofnut · 10-29-2018, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieter V

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Done.

Pieter V · 10-31-2018, 12:16 PM

HD Goofnut · 10-31-2018, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieter V

[Show spoiler]

Done.

Visitor2014 · 11-02-2018, 12:52 AM

For diehard fans of this great thread, there is a great sale going on at Target tonight where you can pick and choose 4K Native Resolution for as low as $10 shipped. It is a Buy 2 get 1 Free, and you can cross mix 4k with regular Blu-ray.

Here is the sale link of 88 titles:

(88 Titles) of 4K Buy2-Get 1 Free Link

One of the titles is Terminator 2 in 4k Native Resolution, when combined with with the offer amounts to $10 shipped.

plam_1980 · 11-02-2018, 01:44 PM

Can someone make a list of existing titles that can be issued in 8K? Because in my opinion in 2 years we will have to upgrade our collections to 8K
I know that 4K took longer to become mainstream, but I think the cycle will be shorter this time, the TVs will be available from next year, so some content will have to be provided sooner than later

FilmFreakosaurus · 11-02-2018, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by plam_1980

Can someone make a list of existing titles that can be issued in 8K? Because in my opinion in 2 years we will have to upgrade our collections to 8K
I know that 4K took longer to become mainstream, but I think the cycle will be shorter this time, the TVs will be available from next year, so some content will have to be provided sooner than later

The reality is that right now only titles that were shot in true 70mm IMAX or other large format negatives like Lawrence of Arabia or 2001 would really benefit from 8k resolution. There are maybe a handful of titles shot with the newest 8k equivalent digital cameras, but even those may not have 8k masters to work from.

We still live in a theatrical world where many movies are finished in 2k.

8k displays may end up with higher frame rates for sports and be closer in capability to the Rec 2020 color space than what was promised for 4k displays only as a means to try and get you to upgrade yet again with little to no true 8k content... an uphill battle. You will also need a MUCH larger display to see any difference anyway and so few households would be itching to do that.

I also don't see a physical medium being adopted for it either. 4k discs may be it.

HD Goofnut · 11-02-2018, 03:34 PM

Right, here's a list of 65/70mm films that would benefit from 8K when/if that ever happens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_70_mm_films

Constitution 101 · 11-03-2018, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Visitor2014

For diehard fans of this great thread, there is a great sale going on at Target tonight where you can pick and choose 4K Native Resolution for as low as $10 shipped. It is a Buy 2 get 1 Free, and you can cross mix 4k with regular Blu-ray.

Here is the sale link of 88 titles:

(88 Titles) of 4K Buy2-Get 1 Free Link

One of the titles is Terminator 2 in 4k Native Resolution, when combined with with the offer amounts to $10 shipped.

Nice work! I just picked up three, so thanks for posting.

plam_1980 · 11-05-2018, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

The reality is that right now only titles that were shot in true 70mm IMAX or other large format negatives like Lawrence of Arabia or 2001 would really benefit from 8k resolution. There are maybe a handful of titles shot with the newest 8k equivalent digital cameras, but even those may not have 8k masters to work from.

We still live in a theatrical world where many movies are finished in 2k.

8k displays may end up with higher frame rates for sports and be closer in capability to the Rec 2020 color space than what was promised for 4k displays only as a means to try and get you to upgrade yet again with little to no true 8k content... an uphill battle. You will also need a MUCH larger display to see any difference anyway and so few households would be itching to do that.

I also don't see a physical medium being adopted for it either. 4k discs may be it.

Thanks for the explanation

CapGzillaRangerPrime · 11-11-2018, 01:41 PM

So Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them isn’t real 4K?

The other sites say it is.
Hmmm

FilmFreakosaurus · 11-11-2018, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CapGzillaRangerPrime

So Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them isn’t real 4K?

The other sites say it is.
Hmmm

2k due to the digital effects.

KubrickKurasawa · 11-11-2018, 03:01 PM

The reality is when 8K dispays get released we will be watching 4K discs on them 98--99% of the time.

Buy 4k discs now. Or not... idc , but lets try and be realistic. Theaters finish films at 2k Digital Intermediate. So buy 4k discs and play them on a 4k display or 8k display for the next 10 years. That's what were getting, same with gaming...basically. If 8k discs come out sooner then so be it. I'll buy the 8k/4k blu ray packs. I'm good.

When 8K Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2 is released on an 8K 300GB 6 layer it won't matter much to me I've the 4k, and the detail is enough for me. Now if The Revenant or John Wick 2 was filmed in 8K I'd be interested but for now I'm happy to enjoy 4k Native The Revenant and upscaled 2k with WCG and HDR with way better bitrates than Blu Ray could ever wish to pull off. 8K could just end up being a resolution bump and that's not going to be much different imho than a well done 4k disc on an 8k display. That's how I'm seeing it for now.

Brahmzy · 11-11-2018, 05:50 PM

Why would 8K be 300GB - we only need 200GB and mostly 150GB.
Size is 4x, but compression / decoding will be 2x as good = 2x 4K size on disc.

Geoff D · 11-11-2018, 06:52 PM

Yes, next-gen codecs will help but where is that 150GB going to come from? UHD is using existing Blu-ray tech, to put it simply (33GB layers were ratified in 2010), and seeing as 128GB quad-layer discs are simply not commercially viable for mass replication in any way, shape or form - even 128GB BDXL recordable discs are as rare as hen's teeth at this point - then 100GB is it for physical media unless someone, somewhere decides to take the plunge and spend millions of dollars on developing a new physical format. Good luck trying to raise those funds in today's streaming-dominated market.

PS

Guardians 2 was finished in 2K anyway, and seeing as all but 50-odd shots in the entire movie don't have any VFX and so would be "native 8K" then you're never going to see a true 4K version, never mind 8K.

Brahmzy · 11-11-2018, 07:24 PM

Most UHD discs hang around the 55GB-65GB mark. I've ripped over 100 of 'em. Very rarely do you have anything over 80GB. I think the one 60FPS one I have is 96GB.

If UHD is 50GB, 66GB and 100GB discs, I'd imagine 8K needs to be 100GB, 150GB, 200GB.

Geoff D · 11-11-2018, 08:48 PM

Sure. Again though: were dat 150gb/200 storage gonna come from?

10-29-2018, 06:31 AM	#2083
ray0414 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2015 Location:Michigan, USA, 35yo Trading Score:9	All 4 of these should be on the list right? [IMG][/IMG]

10-29-2018, 09:46 AM	#2084
Pieter V Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:The Netherlands Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:14	I'm waiting for a proper 4K shopping link for Prince of Darkness. Don't like Steelbook from Zavvi, will come back at it. Besides the release is a bit delayed. Last edited by Pieter V; 10-29-2018 at 12:01 PM.

11-11-2018, 03:01 PM	#2096
KubrickKurasawa Blu-ray Knight Member since:Feb 2014 Location:Midwest 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:612 DVD collection:129 Digital collection:70 iTunes collection:92 Prime collection:9	The reality is when 8K dispays get released we will be watching 4K discs on them 98--99% of the time. Buy 4k discs now. Or not... idc , but lets try and be realistic. Theaters finish films at 2k Digital Intermediate. So buy 4k discs and play them on a 4k display or 8k display for the next 10 years. That's what were getting, same with gaming...basically. If 8k discs come out sooner then so be it. I'll buy the 8k/4k blu ray packs. I'm good. When 8K Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2 is released on an 8K 300GB 6 layer it won't matter much to me I've the 4k, and the detail is enough for me. Now if The Revenant or John Wick 2 was filmed in 8K I'd be interested but for now I'm happy to enjoy 4k Native The Revenant and upscaled 2k with WCG and HDR with way better bitrates than Blu Ray could ever wish to pull off. 8K could just end up being a resolution bump and that's not going to be much different imho than a well done 4k disc on an 8k display. That's how I'm seeing it for now. Last edited by KubrickKurasawa; 11-11-2018 at 03:30 PM.

10-23-2018, 01:46 AM	#2081
Visitor2014 Active Member Member since:May 2014 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:399	No new titles in a week?

10-31-2018, 12:16 PM	#2086
Pieter V Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:The Netherlands Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:14

11-02-2018, 12:52 AM	#2088
Visitor2014 Active Member Member since:May 2014 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:399	For diehard fans of this great thread, there is a great sale going on at Target tonight where you can pick and choose 4K Native Resolution for as low as $10 shipped. It is a Buy 2 get 1 Free, and you can cross mix 4k with regular Blu-ray. Here is the sale link of 88 titles: (88 Titles) of 4K Buy2-Get 1 Free Link One of the titles is Terminator 2 in 4k Native Resolution, when combined with with the offer amounts to $10 shipped.

11-02-2018, 01:44 PM	#2089
plam_1980 Junior Member Member since:Nov 2018	Can someone make a list of existing titles that can be issued in 8K? Because in my opinion in 2 years we will have to upgrade our collections to 8K I know that 4K took longer to become mainstream, but I think the cycle will be shorter this time, the TVs will be available from next year, so some content will have to be provided sooner than later

11-02-2018, 03:34 PM	#2091
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2371 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1093 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	Right, here's a list of 65/70mm films that would benefit from 8K when/if that ever happens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_70_mm_films

11-11-2018, 01:41 PM	#2094
CapGzillaRangerPrime Member Member since:Jul 2013 Blu-ray collection:24 DVD collection:54 Digital collection:3	So Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them isn’t real 4K? The other sites say it is. Hmmm

11-11-2018, 05:50 PM	#2097
Brahmzy Senior Member Member since:Dec 2014 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- iTunes collection:- Trading Score:28	Why would 8K be 300GB - we only need 200GB and mostly 150GB. Size is 4x, but compression / decoding will be 2x as good = 2x 4K size on disc.

11-11-2018, 06:52 PM	#2098
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Yes, next-gen codecs will help but where is that 150GB going to come from? UHD is using existing Blu-ray tech, to put it simply (33GB layers were ratified in 2010), and seeing as 128GB quad-layer discs are simply not commercially viable for mass replication in any way, shape or form - even 128GB BDXL recordable discs are as rare as hen's teeth at this point - then 100GB is it for physical media unless someone, somewhere decides to take the plunge and spend millions of dollars on developing a new physical format. Good luck trying to raise those funds in today's streaming-dominated market. PS Guardians 2 was finished in 2K anyway, and seeing as all but 50-odd shots in the entire movie don't have any VFX and so would be "native 8K" then you're never going to see a true 4K version, never mind 8K.

11-11-2018, 07:24 PM	#2099
Brahmzy Senior Member Member since:Dec 2014 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- iTunes collection:- Trading Score:28	Most UHD discs hang around the 55GB-65GB mark. I've ripped over 100 of 'em. Very rarely do you have anything over 80GB. I think the one 60FPS one I have is 96GB. If UHD is 50GB, 66GB and 100GB discs, I'd imagine 8K needs to be 100GB, 150GB, 200GB.

11-11-2018, 08:48 PM	#2100
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Sure. Again though: were dat 150gb/200 storage gonna come from?

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