List of UHDs that utilize 4K or Higher Masters

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

100% this one. It's on par with Paramounts other non-DI based masters. Not impossible to get it that great looking. Negative cutters are credited in the film credits. And the only thing digitally touched this movie was a digital grade, after some Googling again.

sure looks like it is going by capsaholic, gonna have to pick this one up too
beyond vastly more detail than the blu-ray and looks very crisp

The Shallows UHD also shows more detail than the blu-ray by a good bit, but still seems softish, in that case it probably is a very poor blu vs a well done 2k DI UHD

but for cradle, the detail looks much better and very crisp, perhaps 4k like crisp on the few caps I looked at

[Geoff D]

Agreed re: Shallows, the UHD murders the BD for outright spatial detail but it just looks like an unusually poor BD from Sony rather than the UHD being an actual 4K finish. Same for The Equaliser, the UHD is smokin' hot but the BD really is quite poor in itself.

The thing that gets me with Cradle though is the horizontal dimensions of the two sets of images. While the vertical isn't the same - the BD looking a touch more stretched - the width of the two images is identical from cap to cap and to me that's a big sign of it being the same underlying transfer as the BD. Not that there isn't some stunning extra detail in there vs the soft, filtered BD mind you!

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Agreed re: Shallows, the UHD murders the BD for outright spatial detail but it just looks like an unusually poor BD from Sony rather than the UHD being an actual 4K finish. Same for The Equaliser, the UHD is smokin' hot but the BD really is quite poor in itself.

The thing that gets me with Cradle though is the horizontal dimensions of the two sets of images. While the vertical isn't the same - the BD looking a touch more stretched - the width of the two images is identical from cap to cap and to me that's a big sign of it being the same underlying transfer as the BD. Not that there isn't some stunning extra detail in there vs the soft, filtered BD mind you!

I'll see if I can pick it up on some Black Friday blowout and give it a careful look. At the least, it'll blow the blu out of the water regardless. At best, maybe it somehow is a 4k master despite claims and horiz alignment, etc.

[Pieter V]

4k dcp.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

[Show spoiler]

4k dcp.

Done.

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by Kool-aid23

Thanks for this information. Are you able to confirm if Crazy Rich Asians is also native 4k?

Respects,

Confirmation:


Got this personal word from the cinematographer by e-mail.

Shot in 4K RAW and 4K mastered.

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Please use US link instead:

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

[Show spoiler]Please use US link instead:

Done.

[zw94]

Panic Room is still on this list.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by zw94

Panic Room is still on this list.

Was a release date ever confirmed?

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Was a release date ever confirmed?

Nope, it came up and down. Now it's silent.

New:

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

[Show spoiler]Nope, it came up and down. Now it's silent.

New:

Done.

[Pieter V]

New:

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

[Show spoiler]New:

Done.

[Pieter V]

4K DCPs.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

[Show spoiler]

4K DCPs.

Done.

[Geoff D]

I tell you what though, if we're guessing what stuff got a 4K transfer in spite of what we know about its original finish, I watched Transformers 1 again the other day and the detail is insanely well defined, the grain is sharp and super-fine in DV as well (HDR10 layer looks more blotchy with iffy chroma compression).

It doesn't always have a crazy amount of detail in every single shot because of the softer anamorphic lenses, how Bay's always moving the camera, how Bay's always cutting like mad from shot to shot to shot, but when it sits still and there isn't any CG going on (though that in itself still looks tremendous) it looks too well-defined to be 'just' 2K. Not stating that as an actual fact, it's just a thought.

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I tell you what though, if we're guessing what stuff got a 4K transfer in spite of what we know about its original finish, I watched Transformers 1 again the other day and the detail is insanely well defined, the grain is sharp and super-fine in DV as well (HDR10 layer looks more blotchy with iffy chroma compression).

It doesn't always have a crazy amount of detail in every single shot because of the softer anamorphic lenses, how Bay's always moving the camera, how Bay's always cutting like mad from shot to shot to shot, but when it sits still and there isn't any CG going on (though that in itself still looks tremendous) it looks too well-defined to be 'just' 2K. Not stating that as an actual fact, it's just a thought.

Somehow Paramount releases always look good. Overlord (2018) is another fine example. I will try to get some confirms on that one as well.

Here's your confirm on Darkest Hour, I remember you had doubts.

They mastered in ArriRaw 3.2K.

https://postperspective.com/peter-do...-darkest-hour/

[Geoff D]

I read that article ages ago, still not sure what the "mastered in ArriRaw 3.2K" is actually referring to and I still recall reading something (can't remember what or where) where that same Peter Doyle said it was mastered out to 2K for actual finishing.

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I read that article ages ago, still not sure what the "mastered in ArriRaw 3.2K" is actually referring to and I still recall reading something (can't remember what or where) where that same Peter Doyle said it was mastered out to 2K for actual finishing.

“We try to reproduce the theatrical experience so that what we see in the room would be a true and accurate representation of what is out there in the commercial cinemas,” he explains. “We work at 2K, rather than 4K, because 2K still represents at least 80 percent of theatrical distribution chain that is out there

http://www.postmagazine.com/Publicat...t-Hour-I-.aspx

Darkest Hour did have a 4K DCP on Dolby Cinema as well.