List of UHDs that utilize 4K or Higher Masters

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Heck, why not add another category for 4K finishes that actually have 4K VFX so we know we're getting REALLY TRULY REAL 4K?

In the absence of such a category, I wonder if they'll list Cars 3 as a "real" 4K title. After all, only the CG shots are finished at 2K.

[Geoff D]

Too much irony....cannot compute. Error! Error!

[puddy77]

Originally Posted by AML

Could "Life" be added to this list?
Looks like it was shot at 6k, vfx at 3.2k and the di at 3.2k, which is still a big improvment over 2k blu Rays, even if technically it's not a 4k master. (But close)

If you prefer not to add, maybe we could have another thread with all the "near" 4k masters. There are quite a few now. Deadpool, sicario, revenant, etc.
The "real or fake" web site has separated into 3 sections, "real", "Nearly real" and "fake".

Those titles have real 4k DIs. Realorfake puts them in the "Nearly" category because they are shot on Arri Alexa cameras at 2.8k-3.4k. But their masters are 4k.

Life is an odd duck which worked at half the resolution of the Alexa 65 for the DI instead of upscaling it to 4k.

HD Goofnut and RealorFake4k have different criteria for their lists.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by puddy77

Life is an odd duck which worked at half the resolution of the Alexa 65 for the DI instead of upscaling it to 4k.

Do you know why they did that? Was that just to have some resolution latitude to work with in post?

[puddy77]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Do you know why they did that? Was that just to have some resolution latitude to work with in post?

No, I haven't seen/heard any reasoning and can only make assumptions. But they are the second film with that type of workflow (that I'm aware of). The Great Gatsby was shot at 5k and the DI was 2.5k.

[TheSweetieMan]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

And:

https://www.sony.co.uk/pro/article/d...nner-2049-2017

This will be my first Dolby Cinema experience that has a true 4K-DI.

The PQ of films like 'Alien: Covenant' and 'IT' were already incredible looking. I can only imagine how amazing 'Blade Runner 2049' is going to be in that format.

Here's to hoping that this will be one of Warner Bros' home releases that finally gets the Dolby Vision treatment.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by puddy77

No, I haven't seen/heard any reasoning and can only make assumptions. But they are the second film with that type of workflow (that I'm aware of). The Great Gatsby was shot at 5k and the DI was 2.5k.

Given how good Life actually looks in 4K - resolution and all - then I'm all for those kinds of halfway house finishes in lieu of a full 4K workup. It'll get the purists in a tizzy (which isn't difficult) but why not try and meet inbetween (3K-ish, say) while we're waiting for proper 4K to become the standard? Jurassic World was finished at 2.4K ("2K plus") so even that's got a little bit extra in the tank when it comes to the inevitable 4K upscale for UHD.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Given how good Life actually looks in 4K - resolution and all - then I'm all for those kinds of halfway house finishes in lieu of a full 4K workup. It'll get the purists in a tizzy (which isn't difficult) but why not try and meet inbetween (3K-ish, say) while we're waiting for proper 4K to become the standard? Jurassic World was finished at 2.4K ("2K plus") so even that's got a little bit extra in the tank when it comes to the inevitable 4K upscale for UHD.

More is indeed better than not more.

[jh901]

Originally Posted by TheSweetieMan

This will be my first Dolby Cinema experience that has a true 4K-DI.

Where is your local theater? I wonder not only about the calibration and general set-up of the projector, but about the screen fabric and the light treatment around the screen area. The quality of the content certainly won't hurt, but hopefully it isn't all downhill from there.

[AML]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Hah! So even realorfake has had to add something in-between? Imagine that. It's almost as if it's not so easy to simply say "2K bad 4K good" and label every title according to the same dogmatic views. Heck, why not add another category for 4K finishes that actually have 4K VFX so we know we're getting REALLY TRULY REAL 4K?

As was said, those "Nearly" 4k titles are still 4k masters, just the CG or certain scenes might be less than 4k. (which im ok with to be honest)

The fully "real" 4k masters will be fully 4k, including any CG.

The "fake" 4k releases are basically just 2k upscale nonsense. (which I will never buy out of principle)

Even the 3.2k stuff is a big improvement over 2k upscales or standard blu rays.

"Life" is just a unique case since its a 3.2k master instead of a full 4k master. Probably since the CG is 3.2k and in order to help everything look more uniform, they decided to make a 3.2k master instead of having 4k shots mixed with 3.2k cg.

[Sky_Captain]

[AML]

Gifs that end too soon?

[Gamma_Winstead]

Saw Dark Tower today. Gorgeous film. It's gonna be one hell of a looker, especially with Dolby Vision!

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Let's remove this title for now:

Regular 2K DCP
Dolby Cinema 2K DCP as well

The Sony website claims a 4K DCP, but I don't see it....

[AML]

The Real or Fake site claims it’s a 4k di, but filmed at 2.8k, with 2k cg.
http://realorfake4k.com/my-product/k...golden-circle/

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by AML

The Real or Fake site claims it’s a 4k di, but filmed at 2.8k, with 2k cg.
http://realorfake4k.com/my-product/k...golden-circle/

The site owner, is/was a member here on the forums as well. I know he used the Sony website as a source.

[AML]

IMDB has it as a 2k DI.

Too bad.

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by AML

IMDB has it as a 2k DI.

Too bad.

I sent the cinematographer an e-mail about the DI. He also works on Tomb Raider (2018). Hopefully I will get a reply.

[jono3000]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

I sent the cinematographer an e-mail about the DI. He also works on Tomb Raider (2018). Hopefully I will get a reply.

I watched the Tomb Raider - Becoming Lara Croft video, and the shot of the monitor 12 seconds in shows 3.4K

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[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by jono3000

I watched the Tomb Raider - Becoming Lara Croft video, and the shot of the monitor 12 seconds in shows 3.4K

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Which is no guarantee it'll be finished in 4K, alas.