List of UHDs that utilize 4K or Higher Masters

[enzolt]

I searched this thread already and it seems the general concensus for Life is its passable as 4k despite DI being 3.2k. Should we take it down anyway? I dont think we should be moving the goal post here.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

Well, his avatar is a blind man...

I done that gag already.

Originally Posted by Ray_Rogers

Ray Charles, ya knob.

I mentioned this before but I love your British-esque turn of phrase. Keep it up old chap.

[Ray_Rogers]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I mentioned this before but I love your British-esque turn of phrase. Keep it up old chap.

Cheerio, my buddy.

[elwaylite]

Originally Posted by Ray_Rogers

Ray Charles, ya knob.

Captain Obvious to the rescue!

[TheSweetieMan]

Would anyone be interested in starting a thread that keeps track of titles with 4K (or higher) masters and 3K (or higher) VFX.

I know of 'Sully', 'Sicario', 'Power Rangers', and 'Dunkirk' as of now, but would be curious to know if there are other titles available.

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by TheSweetieMan

Would anyone be interested in starting a thread that keeps track of titles with 4K (or higher) masters and 3K (or higher) VFX.

I know of 'Sully', 'Sicario', 'Power Rangers', and 'Dunkirk' as of now, but would be curious to know if there are other titles available.

We could add at the end of the list a note list, to highlight those titles.

[TheSweetieMan]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

We could add at the end of the list a note list, to highlight those titles.

I think that would be fantastic.

I know those numbers may not mean as much to others, but I've noticed in 'Sully' and 'Power Rangers', that having 4K-VFX or higher, definitely allows the CGI to look significantly less soft.

[puddy77]

Originally Posted by TheSweetieMan

I think that would be fantastic.

I know those numbers may not mean as much to others, but I've noticed in 'Sully' and 'Power Rangers', that having 4K-VFX or higher, definitely allows the CGI to look significantly less soft.

Do you have a source for Power Rangers?

[TheSweetieMan]

Originally Posted by puddy77

Do you have a source for Power Rangers?

Oh shit, total brain fart. I didn't mean to reference 'Power Rangers'. I know it has a 4K-DI and was filmed with DV in mind, but not sure what the VFX were rendered at.

[Pieter V]

Allied: 3K VFX
Blade Runner 2049: 3.4K VFX
The Dark Knight: 4K (35mm), 5.6K & 8K VFX (Both IMAX)
The Dark Knight Rises: 4K (35mm), 6K (VistaVision) 5.6K & 8K VFX (Both IMAX)
Dunkirk: 6.1K VFX
Inception: 4K (35mm), 6K (VistaVision & 65mm)
Interstellar: 4K (35mm), 5.4K & 5.6K VFX (IMAX)
Sicario: 4K VFX
Sully: 4K VFX

Feel free to complete with The Prestige, Batman Begins and more

[Doctorossi]

Blade Runner is actually fully 4K, as well. The handful of CG shots in "The Final Cut" are 4K renders.

[Visitor2014]

What's going on with this thread? It was created two years ago in 2015 and promised to be a list of 4k or higher masters. What a disappointment. I can't seem to trust it.

Unless . . . am I not supposed to trust the reviewers who claim many of these titles are upgraded masters from 2160?

Is there a better list of true 4k or higher transfers?

[Yellbean2002]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Allied: 3K VFX
Blade Runner 2049: 3.4K VFX
The Dark Knight: 4K (35mm), 5.6K & 8K VFX (Both IMAX)
The Dark Knight Rises: 4K (35mm), 6K (VistaVision) 5.6K & 8K VFX (Both IMAX)
Dunkirk: 6.1K VFX
Inception: 4K (35mm), 6K (VistaVision & 65mm)
Interstellar: 4K (35mm), 5.4K & 5.6K VFX (IMAX)
Sicario: 4K VFX
Sully: 4K VFX

Feel free to complete with The Prestige, Batman Begins and more

I thought interstellar was filmed on 70mm? My bluray came with a 70mm film cell.

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[BluLuv14]

Originally Posted by Visitor2014

What's going on with this thread? It was created two years ago in 2015 and promised to be a list of 4k or higher masters. What a disappointment. I can't seem to trust it.

Unless . . . am I not supposed to trust the reviewers who claim many of these titles are upgraded masters from 2160?

Is there a better list of true 4k or higher transfers?

Wires crossed and agreement.!

4k =s 3840*2160

Agreement same scaled bluray not 4k master is untrue.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Yellbean2002

I thought interstellar was filmed on 70mm? My bluray came with a 70mm film cell.

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It was filmed on 35mm and 65mm, yes. But Pieter's lil' list there is relating to the working resolution of the visual effects (VFX) shots that were inserted into Nolan's movies.

[Visitor2014]

Originally Posted by BluLuv14

Wires crossed and agreement.!

4k =s 3840*2160

Agreement same scaled bluray not 4k master is untrue.

I may be a dummy, but I still do not understand.

1) Jumanji 4K (which is claimed to be made from a 4K, or higher, master . . . says "Resolution: Native 4K (2160p)". But lower down on the same page, the Reviewer says it is "2160p/HDR-enhanced image". Most often I see that a "enhanced image" disk is an upscale.

What is it??

2) Here is the quote from Post #1:

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

This list will consist of worldwide UHD titles that have utilized a 4K or higher master. Please post suggestions in this thread.

In the above quote, the thread author (in my mind) is suggesting that all the 4K titles he posted were manufactured by the studios with a minumum 4K master.

If the 4K disks are made from 4K masters, why would there be "upscaling or enhancement?

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Visitor2014

I may be a dummy, but I still do not understand.

1) Jumanji 4K (which is claimed to be made from a 4K, or higher, master . . . says "Resolution: Native 4K (2160p)". But lower down on the same page, the Reviewer says it is "2160p/HDR-enhanced image". Most often I see that a "enhanced image" disk is an upscale.

What is it??

2) Here is the quote from Post #1:


In the above quote, the thread author (in my mind) is suggesting that all the 4K titles he posted were manufactured by the studios with a minumum 4K master.

If the 4K disks are made from 4K masters, why would there be "upscaling or enhancement?

Not "enhanced", "HDR-enhanced". It's just noting that the master was graded for HDR, entirely independent of its source resolution (which, in the case of Jumanji, is 4K).

[Brandon K]

Originally Posted by Ray_Rogers

So, when will this next be updated with a movie I'd really rather own in my collection?

It is sad how many recent movies aren't on this list

I have my foot in the door but I'm not fully into 4K and HDR yet, so at the moment, the 4K part is more important to me than the HDR part. So I'm very interested in movies that will be added to this thread... not so interested in UHD releases that are upscales + HDR.

[AML]

Originally Posted by Brandon K

It is sad how many recent movies aren't on this list

I have my foot in the door but I'm not fully into 4K and HDR yet, so at the moment, the 4K part is more important to me than the HDR part. So I'm very interested in movies that will be added to this thread... not so interested in UHD releases that are upscales + HDR.

Thats the sad reality of the UHD format.
A lot of folks on this forum will argue that you are "missing out" on great releases, or "HDR is a bigger improvement than just the resolution", and on some level they are right, but on another level, those are just opinions, and in the end besides the point.

Studios are releasing 2k upscale transfers on a 4k format. In my book this is false advertising.

You can excuse it or explain it, but the bottom line is, thats what they are doing. Blame the 2k CG rendering, blame the use of 2k cameras, but if thats the case, just DONT release these movies in 4k. Give us a good 2k BD transfer and leave it at that. No reason you cant give standard blu rays HDR, right? Or is there some technical limitation im not aware of?

Hopefully as CG rendering in 4k becomes more prevalent, we will start to get 4k transfers. Till then, we have a huge catalog of older, 35mm/70mm film releases that are getting amazing 4k transfers. Some are even re-rendering CG in 4k (when its minimal use)
But dont expect CG extravaganzas like Guardians of the galaxy, to get re-rendered.

[legends of beyond]

Originally Posted by AML

Thats the sad reality of the UHD format.
You can excuse it or explain it, but the bottom line is, thats what they are doing. Blame the 2k CG rendering, blame the use of 2k cameras, but if thats the case, just DONT release these movies in 4k. Give us a good 2k BD transfer and leave it at that. No reason you cant give standard blu rays HDR, right? Or is there some technical limitation im not aware of?

There at standards every blu-ray and UHD BD have to abide by, for compatibility and technical reasons. It is for that reason that HDR cannot be on Blu-Ray. No players are compatible, and even if you make HDR compatible players, than what about the hundreds of millions players, TVs, receivers, and other things made according to the BD standard. A new format would be needed, so here we are.

EDIT: Hell, UHD BD isn't even an entirely new format, it's still based of BD, but improved with double storage.