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Old 09-30-2014, 12:51 AM   #21
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I'm sitting less than 8feet away from a 65'' UHD samsung, and having had a 55'' c8000 which was top of the line in late 2010 for samsung.

I would say it is NOT worth upgrading and unless you really want bigger size stick to a budget 1080p set.

If I was allowed to have the sets in my room for 2 weeks I'd say that while its great and there are some new features I really enjoy and I could find real value in upgrading if prices were closer but it is not worth the premium regardless of budget at the moment unless you really need a tv.
I would also add that once hitting 1080p and above for films all the other factors are more important imho (black levels, contrast etc). The resolution bump will be nice but in terms of how the picture looks overall resolution is now only one very small part of the equation.


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I suggest consumers in the market for a new TV put at least a little more thought into more innovative ways to enable purchasing a larger-sized TV…because size does matter.
Whilst largely true I have both a front projector and 65vt60. I do more or less all my viewing in a dark room and for over two months now have exclusively used my plasma as for myself the picture quality boost trumps the size boost (and I have yet to see a sub $10,000 projector that satisfies to the same degree). Of course both would be best, but it isn't just bigger = better.

I for one also hate viewing films in imax that where not shoot in imax. They just look blurry and for myself are far better viewed in a normal (much smaller) cinema.

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With all do respect, LG calls it Cinema 3D or Passive 3D. I only say that because in your post saying passive shutter glasses will definitely confuse some people.
The only 3D glasses that have shutters are active.
I recommend the television that fits your budget the best!
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Whilst largely true I have both a front projector and 65vt60. I do more or less all my viewing in a dark room and for over two months now have exclusively used my plasma as for myself the picture quality boost trumps the size boost (and I have yet to see a sub $10,000 projector that satisfies to the same degree). Of course both would be best, but it isn't just bigger = better.
Point is, many folks who frequent A/V consumer websites feel that PQ overwhelmingly trumps ‘size’, with the later (at least until 4K displays arrived on scene), rarely mentioned or discussed with the same vigor as ‘blacks’, contrast ratio, etc. Lucky for such personality types, they don’t view daily 10bit 4:2:2 source (or better) like those who work in the post house industry and then would have to come home and watch anything on TV (be it Blu-ray, cable, OTT, etc.) for I fear they could not deal with it.

I’m saying that ‘size’ is undervalued in the *videophile world* (even in HD rez) despite the science of the HVS and clear anecdotal preference as to its true value expressed by the common man and woman.
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Point is, many folks who frequent A/V consumer websites feel that PQ overwhelmingly trumps ‘size’, with the later (at least until 4K displays arrived on scene), rarely mentioned or discussed with the same vigor as ‘blacks’, contrast ratio, etc. Lucky for such personality types, they don’t view daily 10bit 4:2:2 source (or better) like those who work in the post house industry and then would have to come home and watch anything on TV (be it Blu-ray, cable, OTT, etc.) for I fear they could not deal with it.

I’m saying that ‘size’ is undervalued in the *videophile world* (even in HD rez) despite the science of the HVS and clear anecdotal preference as to its true value expressed by the common man and woman.
Not to sure about in the videophile world as I only stick my head in occasionally (then run away screaming in terror ). I would say the general population over values screen size though. Videophiles by their very nature I can see being more concerned about pq then size though. As for working in the industry I see your point but it is somewhat irrelevant in many ways as it is always the best of what you can get, which is of course limited by availability in the giving market along with ones financial situation.

I will say I have seen a film (projected via 2k digital projection and 35mm) then gone home and watched the same thing on blu-ray to compare and found it to look better at home (and this is a very nice cinema not an 'average' one). Now part of that is no doubt what I value in a picture, but cinemas contrast really make the image bland in comparison (it isn't a massive difference but enough to outweigh the other benefits [motion of the 4k dlp's projecting 2k images is simply unmatched]). As for professional monitors, I have zero experience with them but have no doubt that they look amazing.

I don't mean to size isn't important at all, just that to certain levels I am happy to have my chairs setup closer to the screen (to get the same relative screen size) and sacrifice the actual size for increased pq. The first time I was willing to do this was with a 65" screen though.
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Not to sure about in the videophile world as I only stick my head in occasionally (then run away screaming in terror )...
lol, I see you are not interested in developing or feeding any OCD compulsion….smart man.
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I will say I have seen a film (projected via 2k digital projection and 35mm) then gone home and watched the same thing on blu-ray to compare and found it to look better at home (and this is a very nice cinema not an 'average' one). Now part of that is no doubt what I value in a picture, but cinemas contrast really make the image bland in comparison (it isn't a massive difference but enough to outweigh the other benefits [motion of the 4k dlp's projecting 2k images is simply unmatched])...
Most digital projectors installed now in theaters are in the 2000-2500:1 contrast ratio range. There are some next gen projectors which will improve upon that.
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