HDR Discussion Thread - Page 327 - Blu-ray Forum

Penton-Man · 08-31-2018, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gkolb

^ playing Jeopardy theme music ...

you're quoting the post at the bottom of the last page right?

Penton-Man · 08-31-2018, 06:56 PM

Will try to do the monthly viewership stat for August later tonight as I’ve been informed by a good friend thru PM that we blasted thru the 1.5 million viewership threshold this month!

Later

BrownianMotion · 08-31-2018, 07:10 PM

By the way, based on the compatibility list of TVs with Dolby Vision via the Xbox One X, it looks like the console is using the new low latency profile. Some Dolby Vision TVs, like the 2016 LG OLEDs, are not yet compatible. Meanwhile, the Sony TVs are.

Penton-Man · 08-31-2018, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

So, unbeknownst to many, since sooo much is based upon this, where did this ‘Barten thing’ ……

SMPTE Standards Update Webcast: Perceptual EOTF - YouTube

originate from that Dolby used to create JND steps (visual threshold) and arrive at the conclusion that a 12-bit signal (as in Dolby Vision as opposed to HDR10 or HDR10+) is necessary to prevent banding with the PQ transfer function?

Short version, a little background on the Peter Barten model, see 2nd heading “Human Vision and the DICOM GSDF” - https://siim.org/page/displays_chapter3
Long version, p. 17 (published in 2011) - http://dicom.nema.org/Dicom/2011/11_14PU.PDF

^ And believe it or not, in order to pass the Physics portion of Board examinations and become Certified and make a professional career out of an imaging discipline, if queried, one is expected to be able to explain the Barten model to your examiner.

Penton-Man · 08-31-2018, 11:14 PM

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post13192703

^ zmarty, in case you’re flying by, try opening this version in Microsoft Edge browser at work and see how this low bitrate encoding -
http://projekte.waveletbeam.com/Netf...fps_BT2020.mp4

compares to your final YouTube HDR version -

Real 4K HDR 60fps: Netflix Meridian (From new HDR master) - YouTube

Penton-Man · 08-31-2018, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Will try to do the monthly viewership stat for August later tonight as I’ve been informed by a good friend thru PM that we blasted thru the 1.5 million viewership threshold this month!

Did the math so far and the preliminary figure for the August viewership for this thread is looking fine.

Penton-Man · 09-01-2018, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Will try to do the monthly viewership stat for August later tonight as I’ve been informed by a good friend thru PM that we blasted thru the 1.5 million viewership threshold this month!

Calculating this thread’s viewership for the month of August –

1,511,152 (viewership thru August)
-1,381,041 (viewership total for July, per - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post15357330 )

= 130,111 total views for the month of August for the Blu-ray.com HDR Discussion Thread

Good show

! Again, congrats to all the contributors…..https://forum.blu-ray.com/misc.php?d...osted&t=276605

Penton-Man · 09-01-2018, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

= 130,111 total views for the month of August for the Blu-ray.com HDR Discussion Thread

Good show

! Again, congrats to all the contributors…..https://forum.blu-ray.com/misc.php?d...osted&t=276605

Can't Touch This - Mc Hammer - YouTube

Snikt · 09-01-2018, 02:50 PM

What would you guys recommend as the best Samsung tv for HDR?

Agent Kay · 09-01-2018, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Snikt

What would you guys recommend as the best Samsung tv for HDR?

Q9fn

RockyIII · 09-01-2018, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Q9fn

QLed?

Snikt · 09-01-2018, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Q9fn

Is the Samsung UN55NU8000 really not that great? I don’t want to break the bank lol. And I’m just looking for a 55 inch Samsung with better HDR than my current JU7100 tv

RockyIII · 09-01-2018, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Snikt

Is the Samsung UN55NU8000 really not that great? I don’t want to break the bank lol. And I’m just looking for a 55 inch Samsung with better HDR than my current JU7100 tv

4K HDR can't be fully appreciated on a 55"

Snikt · 09-01-2018, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyIII

4K HDR can't be fully appreciated on a 55"

Well...55 inch is more affordable for me lol

ray0414 · 09-01-2018, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Snikt

Is the Samsung UN55NU8000 really not that great? I don’t want to break the bank lol. And I’m just looking for a 55 inch Samsung with better HDR than my current JU7100 tv

U might wanna consider a 2018Vizio P series if you are in North America. It's better than the NU8000. Better color and vibrancy and better black levels too. The hdr is "better" on the Vizio P (2018 version, not 2017).

Penton-Man · 09-01-2018, 06:45 PM

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post15463926
^ Not a dry eye in our household this morning…especially since we lived for 4 years not much more than a stone’s throw away from the Washington National Cathedral, which made the service even that more identifiable to us.

John is a national treasure.

Penton-Man · 09-01-2018, 06:50 PM

Something workflow unique –
A feature shot with RED Helium 8K camera, mastered and delivered to YouTube in 8K resolution -

FULLSTERKUR: An Original Film By Rogue / 8K - YouTube

I wished they’d also offered a 4K HDR version and done a 4K HDR v. 8K SDR side-by-side comparison (with enough separation to avoid crispening and Cornsweet effects) to show which has more visual value.

Agent Kay · 09-01-2018, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Snikt

Is the Samsung UN55NU8000 really not that great? I don’t want to break the bank lol. And I’m just looking for a 55 inch Samsung with better HDR than my current JU7100 tv

I would hesitate to call it bad.

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Originally Posted by RockyIII

4K HDR can't be fully appreciated on a 55"

absolute bollocks

tommyboy81 · 09-02-2018, 12:14 AM

so question. There's a certain someone on Youtube. I won't say that persons name but he's been doing SDR vs HDR videos lately. His claim is that SDR is better, and that HDR washes out colors (greenish tint on skin), etc...

Does he have his settings off? He purposely doing it?

Geoff D · 09-02-2018, 01:03 AM

Whatever way he's doing it, he's doing it wrong.

09-01-2018, 06:45 PM	#6536
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since: Apr 2007 Posts: 23,165 Thanks: 24 Thanked 4,173 times in 3,113 posts	https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post15463926 ^ Not a dry eye in our household this morning…especially since we lived for 4 years not much more than a stone’s throw away from the Washington National Cathedral, which made the service even that more identifiable to us. John is a national treasure. Last edited by Penton-Man; 09-01-2018 at 06:52 PM.

08-31-2018, 06:56 PM	#6522
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since: Apr 2007 Posts: 23,165 Thanks: 24 Thanked 4,173 times in 3,113 posts	Will try to do the monthly viewership stat for August later tonight as I’ve been informed by a good friend thru PM that we blasted thru the 1.5 million viewership threshold this month! Later

08-31-2018, 07:10 PM	#6523
BrownianMotion Power Member Member since: Nov 2013 Posts: 1,840 Thanks: 307 Thanked 1,053 times in 542 posts	By the way, based on the compatibility list of TVs with Dolby Vision via the Xbox One X, it looks like the console is using the new low latency profile. Some Dolby Vision TVs, like the 2016 LG OLEDs, are not yet compatible. Meanwhile, the Sony TVs are.

09-01-2018, 02:50 PM	#6529
Snikt Blu-ray Samurai Member since: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,776 Thanks: 1,461 Thanked 1,587 times in 898 posts	What would you guys recommend as the best Samsung tv for HDR?

09-02-2018, 12:14 AM	#6539
tommyboy81 Blu-ray Count Member since: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 17,406 Thanks: 126 Thanked 329 times in 247 posts	so question. There's a certain someone on Youtube. I won't say that persons name but he's been doing SDR vs HDR videos lately. His claim is that SDR is better, and that HDR washes out colors (greenish tint on skin), etc... Does he have his settings off? He purposely doing it?

09-02-2018, 01:03 AM	#6540
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Member since: Feb 2009 Location: Swanage, Engerland Posts: 97,980 Thanks: 68,783 Thanked 159,927 times in 49,763 posts	Whatever way he's doing it, he's doing it wrong.