"Club Penton" - Ask questions to Hollywood insider "Penton-Man"

[Penton-Man]

Oh man, it’s going to be a Cruel…………..Cruel Summer with the hit my wallet is going to take given the upcoming Blu crush…………………….
https://www.blu-ray.com/news/

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In regards to supporting the “classics” (esp. those that have had some sort of restoration/remastering work) might I suggest you all consider also purchasing The Sand Pebbles, which screened at the Zanuck Theatre on the Fox lot back last Nov................
http://blog.digitalcontentproducer.c...bles%E2%80%9D/

The Blu-ray edition should be superb.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Oh man, it’s going to be a Cruel…………..Cruel Summer with the hit my wallet is going to take given the upcoming Blu crush…………………….

Tunes for listening to over lunchtime for those that are unable to leave their workstations ………..
Turn up da Volume.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M80mw...eature=related

[WickyWoo]

At first I thought you were PMing me that my neighbor’s house was on fire.
He’s an avid gamer that owns the Xbox 360, the PS3 and a Wii.

Given how long it usually takes you to answer, I think it would have been better to just call the fire dept

Are you accusing me of having your house under 24 hour surveillance to find out your secret ID Sneakers style? Or are you intentionally leeching off your neighbor's internet so I'm look......WOULD be watching the wrong house?

Seriously, anything you can do to help on that issue would be most appriciated. Thanks Penton

[horseflesh]

Was my comment in the "Be Kind Rewind" news article accurate...?

Phase One of Penton's "planned obsolesence"

[JAGUAR1977]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Just a quick heads up:

Could everybody go out an buy a copy of A Passage to India. It has been painstakingly restored at great cost to the studio and the sales it has been seeing aren't going to help the case for other David Lean classics like Dr. Zhivago or Lawrence of Arabia get moved up the schedule any time soon.

Also it is an absolutely amazing movie one of Lean's best, so everybody go out and buy it!

I don't want to come across as some kind of Philistine, but I only have a passing recolection of the name 'A Passage to India', I've never heard of David Lean, never seen Dr. Zhivago, Lawrence of Arabia or Casablanca, and can count on one hand the number of pre 1970 movies I have watched!

Maybe I'm completely out of touch, but I think we've reached the point were pre 70's movies are of little interest to those who will buy Blu-ray, or any new video technology.

Maybe the only exception is war movies?

Was DVD the last format were these sort of movies were popular?

Early 70's movies are now getting on for 40 years old, unless your a film buff/historian/student, it's difficult to be excited or interested in movies that have so little culteral relevance to those in the 18-40 age bracket.

[rbd3000]

Originally Posted by JAGUAR1977

I don't want to come across as some kind of Philistine, but I only have a passing recolection of the name 'A Passage to India', I've never heard of David Lean, never seen Dr. Zhivago, Lawrence of Arabia or Casablanca, and can count on one hand the number of pre 1970 movies I have watched!

Maybe I'm completely out of touch, but I think we've reached the point were pre 70's movies are of little interest to those who will buy Blu-ray, or any new video technology.

Maybe the only exception is war movies?

Was DVD the last format were these sort of movies were popular?

Early 70's movies are now getting on for 40 years old, unless your a film buff/historian/student, it's difficult to be excited or interested in movies that have so little culteral relevance to those in the 18-40 age bracket.

I understand what you are saying, but I don't think this applies to every pre 70s film. There are plenty of films from the 50s-60s that I would consider buying. I just don't think that this was a real sought after film that needed a big restoration. Lean has many other films that would garner more interest than A Passage to India. I'm not saying it is a bad film, but if you took a poll of Lean films that people liked the most, this would not be near the top. I just think that this was a bad test case for what classic films will sell well on Blu-ray.

[depooter]

Penton
with Paid MIA, can you address the following gripe? It seems that Sony has been very sloppy lately and has not been including theatrical trailers (for the movie being purchased). This comes to mind with Gattaca, Superbad, and many, many others. Many of us movie fans love to have the theatrical trailer(s) as it rounds out the extras very nicely..

thanks

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by JAGUAR1977

Early 70's movies are now getting on for 40 years old, unless your a film buff/historian/student, it's difficult to be excited or interested in movies that have so little culteral relevance to those in the 18-40 age bracket.

You may be absolutely right. That doesn't make it any less sad and concerning.

Classic automobiles
Architecture
Fine spirits
Art
Sports memorbilia
Coins and Stamps

Beauty and rarity are cherished in so many areas of human interest. But, seemingly ignored by those that limit their interests to pop culture.

We get so few of these classic films offered, you'd think we'd all be going nuts over them, instead of talking them down as being irrelevant.

Gary

[jopemoro]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Tunes for listening to over lunchtime for those that are unable to leave their workstations ………..
Turn up da Volume.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M80mw...eature=related

Nononono, check out the original by Bananarama, pure 80s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n6chxpEINs

[hollywoodguy]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

In regards to supporting the “classics” (esp. those that have had some sort of restoration/remastering work) might I suggest you all consider also purchasing The Sand Pebbles, which screened at the Zanuck Theatre on the Fox lot back last Nov................
http://blog.digitalcontentproducer.c...bles%E2%80%9D/

The Blu-ray edition should be superb.

If I may add to this, it appears as if Patton is going to be THE measuring stick for PQ of non-animated movies on Blu-ray, and I'm not saying "for its age," I'm saying move over Pirates of the Caribbean...

Come on people, put in that pre-order now. (You don't want to sit there like Rob with "Passage to India", reading one glowing review after the other and not having the movie in your hands already, dammit! )

[horseflesh]

Originally Posted by JAGUAR1977

I don't want to come across as some kind of Philistine, but I only have a passing recolection of the name 'A Passage to India', I've never heard of David Lean, never seen Dr. Zhivago, Lawrence of Arabia or Casablanca, and can count on one hand the number of pre 1970 movies I have watched!

Maybe I'm completely out of touch, but I think we've reached the point were pre 70's movies are of little interest to those who will buy Blu-ray, or any new video technology.

Maybe the only exception is war movies?

Was DVD the last format were these sort of movies were popular?

Early 70's movies are now getting on for 40 years old, unless your a film buff/historian/student, it's difficult to be excited or interested in movies that have so little culteral relevance to those in the 18-40 age bracket.

You're some kind of Philistine

Great art will always be great art.
The very best films are timeless (King Kong, Seven Samurai, Godfather, Adventures of Robin Hood, Citizen Kane, Lawrence of Arabia; the list could go on and on and on...)
Personally I want to see the greats on Blu-ray, most will look better on Blu-ray than they EVER have before.

P.S. I have ordered A Passage to India, but because of the way I order in "batches" from Amazon.com, mine won't ship until June 10 with The Professionals, and now Be Kind Rewind
So, Max/Paid/Penton, one of the copies that sells that week in June will be en route to the emerald isle

[horseflesh]

Originally Posted by jopemoro

Nononono, check out the original by Bananarama, pure 80s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n6chxpEINs

Veering wildly off-topic (apologies Penton), I have a weekend in London planned with 2 friends and my brother next month. I'm going to bring my iPod speaker dock for the hotel room (yes, we're sharing, LOL, only way to do it in central London without spending a small fortune, and we want to stay in a particular Hilton for sentimental reasons, my brother lived on the same block for a few years)
Anyway, I told them they could each choose 2 albums to put on my iPod and m brother said he wanted Bananarama's Greatest Hits

[NutsAboutPS3]

Out of interest, how does the number of copies of A Passage to India Blu-ray compare to the number of copies sold on DVD? And how does that compare with more recent catalogue titles (more recent, but still old enough that everyone who wants it will already own it on DVD)? For example Gattaca is over 10 years old, so how did its Blu-ray sales compare to its DVD sales? It's not an entirely fair comparison because Gattaca scores 7.7 on IMDB vs 7.3 for A Passage to India, and Sci-Fi will surely sell better to the PS3 audience, there may well be better titles to choose for comparison.

[JAGUAR1977]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

You may be absolutely right. That doesn't make it any less sad and concerning.

Classic automobiles
Architecture
Fine spirits
Art
Sports memorbilia
Coins and Stamps

Beauty and rarity are cherished in so many areas of human interest. But, seemingly ignored by those that limit their interests to pop culture.

We get so few of these classic films offered, you'd think we'd all be going nuts over them, instead of talking them down as being irrelevant.

Gary

Maybe it's an age thing?

I'm a huge car fan, but struggle to identify and be excited by stuff that pre dates 1970.

A 40 year spread is a fair old amount to cover, movies that I grew up with in the 80's are now 20 years old!

I'm not sure 40 plus years can be bracketed into pop cuture, and somehow be less worthy (I'm not saying this is you point of view).

Sales expectations for these now very old movies need to be realistic, especially when most Blu-ray users are in a younger age group.

[horseflesh]

Originally Posted by JAGUAR1977

Maybe it's an age thing?

I'm a huge car fan, but struggle to identify and be excited by stuff that pre dates 1970.

A 40 year spread is a fair old amount to cover, movies that I grew up with in the 80's are now 20 years old!

I'm not sure 40 plus years can be bracketed into pop cuture, and somehow be less worthy (I'm not saying this is you point of view).

Sales expectations for these now very old movies need to be realistic, especially when most Blu-ray users are in a younger age group.

Personal question, but how old are you? I'm presuming the 1977 is a clue

[JasonR]

Originally Posted by JAGUAR1977

I don't want to come across as some kind of Philistine, but I only have a passing recolection of the name 'A Passage to India', I've never heard of David Lean, never seen Dr. Zhivago, Lawrence of Arabia or Casablanca, and can count on one hand the number of pre 1970 movies I have watched!

Maybe I'm completely out of touch, but I think we've reached the point were pre 70's movies are of little interest to those who will buy Blu-ray, or any new video technology.

Maybe the only exception is war movies?

Was DVD the last format were these sort of movies were popular?

Early 70's movies are now getting on for 40 years old, unless your a film buff/historian/student, it's difficult to be excited or interested in movies that have so little culteral relevance to those in the 18-40 age bracket.

FAIL


A Passage To India came out in 1984. Not even 25 years old.

[JasonR]

Oh, and I think a movie like Scarface (1983) would sell bucketloads. Going even farther back, The Godfather (1972) will be huge as well. ESPECIALLY in the 18-40 bracket.

[JAGUAR1977]

Originally Posted by JasonR

FAIL


A Passage To India came out in 1984. Not even 25 years old.

Then I'm not suprised it hasn't sold, such a recent movie yet it is little known.

Critical acclaim doesn't neccessarily result in popularity (stating the obvious I know).

I'd buy Scarface, Godfather, Exocist etc, but Passage to India doesn't seem to fall into the Blu-ray demographic.

I think Fox may be off to a good start with their classic movie range, those War movies are a good introduction.

I'd personally like Le Mans and Grand Prix.

[Bullseye]

Dr. Zhivago & Lawrence of Arabia are equally important films and I hope both are given equal treatment.

[blitz6speed]

Id never heard of Pasage To India before the BD. And i consider myself a movie fan. Ill still pick it up at some point, but my backlog is pretty crazy as it is.