"Club Penton" - Ask questions to Hollywood insider "Penton-Man"

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by spicynacho

Let me take a wild guess and say some krazy guy like Howard Hughes would go for something like that.

AstroBlu already nailed it, see above.

[Penton-Man]

Guys, as I stated on Monday, I’m on vacation this week (and actually most of the next) as we’re trying to beat the Spring break crowd to all the nice places to visit before the drunken orgies begin.

Again, don’t read anything into my absence. I’ll try to drop in, if I can, intermittently.
Later.

[BlurayManiac]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Guys, as I stated on Monday, I’m on vacation this week (and actually most of the next) as we’re trying to beat the Spring break crowd to all the nice places to visit before the drunken orgies begin.

Again, don’t read anything into my absence. I’ll try to drop in, if I can, intermittently.
Later.

have fun bro enjoy your vacation

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Guys, as I stated on Monday, I’m on vacation this week (and actually most of the next) as we’re trying to beat the Spring break crowd to all the nice places to visit before the drunken orgies begin.

Ummm....

Why would you want to miss drunken orgies?!

[PaulGo]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Guys, as I stated on Monday, I’m on vacation this week (and actually most of the next) as we’re trying to beat the Spring break crowd to all the nice places to visit before the drunken orgies begin.

Again, don’t read anything into my absence. I’ll try to drop in, if I can, intermittently.
Later.

Have a great vacation, you earned it!

[AstroBlu]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Are you a looper?
If so, “Oh, uh, there won’t be any money. But when you die………on your death bed, you will receive total consciousness.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAZwC6LLThs

If you’re not looper, Yogi Berra will send you a pat on the fanny for your effort and you’ve got a big tip of the cap from me too.

Just a fan of his since 2001 (the movie).

Silent Running was a good one.

Too bad Brainstorm killed his career.

Enjoy your vacation.

BTW: What's a looper?

[gearyt]

watch for the Blu-Ray "Insiders gone wild !!!" staring ....

[ussrelativity]

Originally Posted by CptGreedle

Will New Line still put their name on things or will it all become WB? Will WB take over video production for BD of New Line titles? If so, will WB upgrade their BD quality, specifically their sound?

I believe that New Line will remain as their own production and distribution entity, so we should still have DTS-HD Master Audio.

[Mystery Clock]

Originally Posted by ussrelativity

I believe that New Line will remain as their own production and distribution entity, so we should still have DTS-HD Master Audio.

Great!

I'll be quite happy to have a dts HD-MA track for Dark City: Director's Cut along with the long-rumored (confirmed but MIA) new Roger Ebert commentary track for the forthcoming 2006 Director's cut he mentioned on his web site back in 2005.

I'd pay at least a latte' to know when it was coming down the Blu-pipe.

-John

[CptGreedle]

Dark City, LotR trilogy... those are the ones I am waiting for and i want 7.1 DTS HD-MA for all of those!

[patrick99]

Originally Posted by ussrelativity

I believe that New Line will remain as their own production and distribution entity, so we should still have DTS-HD Master Audio.

I thought that the BD (as well as DVD) aspect would be taken over by Warner Home Video? The whole point was to reduce costs by eliminating duplicative functions, wasn't it?

[mycroft]

Originally Posted by TheRealBob

Stupid question, but I've seen this discussed all over, including just now in this thread, and I've tried to find this out with no luck, but...

What exactly does "yield rate" mean with respect to Blu-Ray Discs?

In other words, if the yield rate is 80%, what does that mean?

I have been assuming that is how many discs are manufactured without flaws. So an 80% yield rate would mean 20% end up getting junked.

But I've never actually seen this stated, just endless arguments about what the current yield rate percentage for BD-50 is vs. other discs, who said what when, etc.

Thanks.

Yes, 20% of the discs coming out of the machine are flawed. This means that with average daily production of 9000 discs per line (one line-day, I'll call it), you have to throw away 1800 of them, leaving you 7200 usable discs per line-day. If "300" sold 200K copies, that was 28 line-days of production, or over 3 days of production for DADC with their 6 lines (at last count, they're probably increasing that now).
Of course, we assume that there's been improvement, but DADC has been quoting the "around 80%" number now for over a year. Here and here
Double layer DVD yields were around 80% in 2000. Today they're 95% or more. There's no reason to assume BD-50 won't also be able to achieve similar results, with time.

[savage1984]

Originally Posted by mycroft

Yes, 20% of the discs coming out of the machine are flawed. This means that with average daily production of 9000 discs per line (one line-day, I'll call it), you have to throw away 1800 of them, leaving you 7200 usable discs per line-day. If "300" sold 200K copies, that was 28 line-days of production, or over 3 days of production for DADC with their 6 lines (at last count, they're probably increasing that now).
Of course, we assume that there's been improvement, but DADC has been quoting the "around 80%" number now for over a year. Here and here
Double layer DVD yields were around 80% in 2000. Today they're 95% or more. There's no reason to assume BD-50 won't also be able to achieve similar results, with time.

very informative... practice makes perfect. All new technologies have flaws. They're new. Right now, it's all about repeatability.

[pellucidity]

Originally Posted by savage1984

very informative... practice makes perfect. All new technologies have flaws. They're new. Right now, it's all about repeatability.

There are other factors too. One thing we've heard repeatedly is that the yield rates hit the 80s and then DADC and Cinram have focused on cutting cycle time rather than getting yields up any further. Diminishing returns and all that. So the net movement over the past quarters has reportedly been more total good discs *and* more coasters coming off the same lines.

~80% yields are good or 'science fiction,' don't you think?

[jon s]

how do they determine if the disc is flawed? do they inspect every disc bit-by-bit? do they do a sampling and throw out a batch?

[WickyWoo]

how do they determine if the disc is flawed? do they inspect every disc bit-by-bit? do they do a sampling and throw out a batch?

There is some kind of scanner, I don't know how it works, but if I had to guess it performs spot checks in such a manner that if there's an error it's likely to hit it

[Penton-Man]

I received a few PM’s from inquiring minds asking me to elaborate on the StEM material I spoke about a few pages back.

In that regard, the StEM (movie short) was a collaborative effort between American Society of Cinematographers and DCI. More than two hours of film were captured in 35mm (and to be completely accurate, a small amount in 65 mm also) by a world-class team of ASC cinematographers. The footage featured a bunch of scenes with a variety of lighting conditions, colors, textures and other variables of photographic definition including rain, confetti, fog, smoke, etc. The footage accumulated was intentionally made to stress the system (i.e. theatrical presentation of the imagery). It was edited down to a mini-movie consisting mostly of 35mm original source and a little bit of 65mm. Eastman negative 5218 (think Van Helsing) was the primary stock and 5245 was used for the shot tilting down from the sky.

The location was Uni’s “European Village" backlot with a wedding scene (b.t.w., the groom in a tuxedo and the bride in a wedding gown is a great way to test blacks and whites) set-up similar to the one in The Godfather. The StEM material also includes some 4k CGI from Disney’s Treasure Planet.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

There is some kind of scanner, I don't know how it works, but if I had to guess it performs spot checks in such a manner that if there's an error it's likely to hit it

I don’t see my post responding to that goof-ball thread that was linked here from one of those *fringe forums* where they continue to fight the high-def format war in their own zombie-fied way.

I hope that you or one of the other mods at least moved my *rebuttal* to one of our member’s only threads, as it took a good 4-5 min. for me to type up the darn thing!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Ummm....

Why would you want to miss drunken orgies?!

Me, personally?

First of all, all kidding aside, I am indeed a happily married man who has remained faithful to his partner for life for over 20 years of marriage.

Secondly, I don’t want to ever end up like that John Bobbitt character.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by AstroBlu

Just a fan of his since 2001 (the movie).

Silent Running was a good one.

Too bad Brainstorm killed his career.

Enjoy your vacation.

BTW: What's a looper?

Watch/listen to the video I posted earlier……………….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAZwC6LLThs