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[Steedeel]

I know it will not match bluray. That is all i need to know.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I know it will not match bluray. That is all i need to know.

Well, contrary to your "replacement" allegation, it's not intended to, so I hope you don't stay up nights worrying.

I'm over here not worrying about Dodge pickup trucks replacing Cannondale bicycles, so I can help you out if you need tips for staying calm.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Well, contrary to your "replacement" allegation, it's not intended to, so I hope you don't stay up nights worrying.

I'm over here not worrying about Dodge pickup trucks replacing Cannondale bicycles, so I can help you out if you need tips for staying calm.

I beg to differ. I think that is the intention.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I beg to differ. I think that is the intention.

Among Blu-ray enthusiasts, do you know what the Sony DADC plant in Terre Haute is most notably known for?
Answer – The manufacturing of BD50s, see…http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-58313472.html

Damn, if that was truly “the intention” as you claim, then it seems like 72 million was just wasted (local article from last May, long after the consortium started working on UltraViolet and a prototype of the delivery process was actually demonstrated by Akamai at CES 2011)…..

http://www.indianaeconomicdigest.net...rticleID=59952

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I bet it is. Why let a little thing like quality get in the way! No ultraviolet for me thank you very much.

Aw shucks, now I feel you’re just playing *hard to get* and really are

What you really want is a pass to one of the upcoming UltraViolet launch parties. I’ll see what I can do for you.

Please, just don’t ask anyone for autographs, esp. the engineers.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Aw shucks, now I feel you’re just playing *hard to get* and really are

What you really want is a pass to one of the upcoming UltraViolet launch parties. I’ll see what I can do for you.

Please, just don’t ask anyone for autographs, esp. the engineers.

Well...I hate Ultraviolet too, if free launch party passes are being handed out to those of little faith! Also I'd like to add that I read on the internets somewhere that the blu-ray medium is to begin "phase out" late this year and completely finish on 12/21/2012.(something about that date strikes me as familiar, but I just can't put my finger on it...)


Edit: ;-)

Edit2: Personally I just think it's all those "Culver City Barbarians" trying to stir the pot!! :-)

[androvsky]

The thing with Ultraviolet is it gives people who buy Blu-rays much more freedom to watch movies how they want to. I think it'll actually help sales of physical releases. In fact, one of the features of Ultraviolet is people who buy a straight digital version are still allowed a physical copy, either by burning a disc themselves or ordering one. Not sure if it's mandatory for the studios to support, but it's interesting that it's there.

Granted, it'd be even better if they dropped the DRM completely, but that's not happening. This is a pretty good second choice, though. Managed copy would've helped too, but the extra copies were generally going to cost money and no hardware supports it that I'm aware of.

One of my big worries about Ultraviolet is if smaller studios will be able to play too. I'd be thrilled if Funimation's anime Blu-rays supported Ultraviolet, but I get the impression the setup is mainly for the big boys.

[sharkshark]

all this hate... wonder how many actually watched the vid... Nice to see this kind of consolidation of digital versions, and can see it do well to coordinate (ie., live along side) physical media like BD. Without Apple's involvement is yet again a non-starter, but it's certainly a more intelligent "do over" of the digital versions that are often pack-ins with physical media. Mitch's response to the Apple question is extremely well answered, and clearly well researched. I'm impressed, frankly, at his presentation.

[androvsky]

Originally Posted by sharkshark

all this hate... wonder how many actually watched the vid... Nice to see this kind of consolidation of digital versions, and can see it do well to coordinate (ie., live along side) physical media like BD. Without Apple's involvement is yet again a non-starter, but it's certainly a more intelligent "do over" of the digital versions that are often pack-ins with physical media. Mitch's response to the Apple question is extremely well answered, and clearly well researched. I'm impressed, frankly, at his presentation.

Haven't had a chance to watch the video yet, now I'm curious. I've seen hints that third-party apps could handle UV movies on Apple devices, especially for streaming services that already exist. If I'm understanding right, people will be able to use their netflix app on their iPhone to watch the movie they just bought on Blu-ray, even if other netflix subscribers don't have access to that title. Granted, it requires a netflix subscription and for users to know it's possible though.

Still, I think Android phones and tablets, game consoles (including handhelds), various set-top boxes, and PCs could be big enough to matter if marketed right.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Among Blu-ray enthusiasts, do you know what the Sony DADC plant in Terre Haute is most notably known for?

Ahh the days of the early CD rollout and CBS/Sony discs...


;>

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Aw shucks, now I feel you’re just playing *hard to get* and really are

What you really want is a pass to one of the upcoming UltraViolet launch parties. I’ll see what I can do for you.

Please, just don’t ask anyone for autographs, esp. the engineers.

Well, i would certainly ask what the bit rates are and how they intend to offer high quality streams!

[fitprod]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Among Blu-ray enthusiasts, do you know what the Sony DADC plant in Terre Haute is most notably known for?

Penton... I'm joking, but for Blu-ray enthusiast that have been around since the advent of video discs...

Laser-rot.


fitprod

[androvsky]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Well, i would certainly ask what the bit rates are and how they intend to offer high quality streams!

I'm still confused. Surely the high-quality Ultraviolet copy is provided by the Blu-ray disc you buy? I assume you're worried people will stop buying Blu-rays now that the DRM isn't completely crazy?

People complain about the bitrates iTunes and Amazon offer for music, but last I checked, CDs are still available, and studios still offer them. Heck, studios are even starting to offer vinyl LPs again, simply because there's a small market that wants them. You think there will be more people that will buy LPs than will buy Blu-ray movies?


Now, granted, there is one problem with UV that Steedeel has been wandering near. There's a fair number of people that would like to store Blu-ray quality copies of their movies on a network storage box and stream to various devices on their home network. UV has a provision for network streaming, but there's no clear legit way of getting a full Blu-ray quality copy on the network storage that I've found. And since those people are mostly already finding their own ways of getting full Blu-ray copies on their home network, the UV people might want to get that figured out.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by androvsky

I'm still confused. Surely the high-quality Ultraviolet copy is provided by the Blu-ray disc you buy? I assume you're worried people will stop buying Blu-rays now that the DRM isn't completely crazy?

People complain about the bitrates iTunes and Amazon offer for music, but last I checked, CDs are still available, and studios still offer them. Heck, studios are even starting to offer vinyl LPs again, simply because there's a small market that wants them. You think there will be more people that will buy LPs than will buy Blu-ray movies?


Now, granted, there is one problem with UV that Steedeel has been wandering near. There's a fair number of people that would like to store Blu-ray quality copies of their movies on a network storage box and stream to various devices on their home network. UV has a provision for network streaming, but there's no clear legit way of getting a full Blu-ray quality copy on the network storage that I've found. And since those people are mostly already finding their own ways of getting full Blu-ray copies on their home network, the UV people might want to get that figured out.

I am referring to the future more than now. After all, no HD source (high quality) if bluray is obsolete in the next few years, is the ultimate kick in the teeth.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

Ahh the days of the early CD rollout and CBS/Sony discs...
;>

If only the owners of this forum knew the exact name of what some think may be the next generation laser for optical disc, so that they could grab the url now (like they so astutely did with Blu-ray.com)……
http://www.examiner.com/japan-headli...aser-for-disks

and thusly retire early and live happily ever after with so much $$ and time on their hands that they could do just about anything they desired to do (legally, of course) or else hire someone to do it for them.

[PaulGo]

I thinkk they should call it Blu-ultra to tie in with Blu-ray association.

[Penton-Man]

So, Denon CI -

I take the day off today (since the surgeons want to cut on my body yet again and I figured I would 'pamper' myself with a vacation day) and go out on the links to see if anything has changed with my golf game.

I end up dragging my sorry butt up to the 19th hole in complete and total submission…..all the time realizing for the first time in my life that ‘golf’ appropriately spells ‘flog’ backwards.

Yeah, I 'pampered' myself alright.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PaulGo

I thinkk they should call it Blu-ultra to tie in with Blu-ray association.

I haven’t checked yet but I don’t think that the url http://www.blue-violetdisc.com has been taken yet. Right now I can envision Deci checking to see how much money his 401K lost yesterday.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I am referring to the future more than now. After all, no HD source (high quality) if bluray is obsolete in the next few years, is the ultimate kick in the teeth.

Seriously, what answer are you looking for??
Blu-ray will last for the rest of YOUR life? Sorry pal, nothing lasts forever. I'm assuming as such a BD enthusiast you actually own some discs, right?
Well there you go...hold onto them forever. Problem solved.
You constantly whine on these threads every day about something that we have NO CONTROL over.
You like blu-ray, I like blu-ray, we all like blu-ray. Enjoy it while it lasts, however long that may be, and stop crying about it's demise.
You almost come across as a "reverse troll": You claim to love blu-ray, but yet in every post you keep moaning about it's demise to streaming. Despite, knowledgable posts to the contrary.
How about everytime you feel the urge to post about the "forthcoming demise of blu-ray", you pop in one of those BDs and calm the hell down.
Do you fret like this every time you cross the street? You never know what may happen!

[4K2K]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

If only the owners of this forum knew the exact name of what some think may be the next generation laser for optical disc

Ultraviolet?