HDR Discussion Thread

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by DanBa

With 2017 LG OLED TV and Dolby Vision-compliant UHD Blu-ray player, hopefully we will see an HDR content shootout between HDR10 and "Active HDR with Dolby Vision" and Dolby Vision.

And best for the proposed shootout if not one movie is assessed, but rather a good variety of sequences from multiple different movies are utilized like is done in evaluations by professional investigators …

[DanBa]

Posted on other forum:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-hi...l#post50858161

With upcoming 2017 LG OLED TV, Dolby Vision-compliant UHD Blu-ray player and Dolby Vision UHD Blu-ray disc, hopefully we will see HDR content shootouts between HDR10 and "Active HDR with Dolby Vision" and Dolby Vision with content grading explanations by the colorists.
https://www.creativecow.net/intersti...duction/1&id=0
http://www.studiodaily.com/2015/06/c...-dolby-vision/



"Vis-à-vis thru the CMU, Dolby provides an automatic conversion for that and if the colorist isn’t completely satisfied with the look, he/see can always trim it, manually with the color correction controls."
[Penton]
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=1151

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[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by DanBa

on other forum:

I see you get around ….
https://events.r20.constantcontact.c...0&oseq=&c=&ch=

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by DanBa

...content grading explanations by the colorists.
https://www.creativecow.net/intersti...duction/1&id=0
http://www.studiodaily.com/2015/06/c...-dolby-vision/

It’s finally stopped raining in my neck of woods and freeways should be safely dried out, so heading out now with my wife to the tech retreat in the desert, meanwhile don’t miss out on the HDR thoughts by our colorists from across the pond. The basic HDR material which many of us here are already aware of having discussed on previous pages involves the first hour, so for the freshest material with visual illustrations, I’m informed viewers should start at 1:05:52 timestamp and continue watching till the end…..

https://vimeo.com/203351189


Note to Dan, are you fluent in French? I ask because once in awhile, although admittedly it’s uncommon, I’m also sent collegial videoclips totally en français, from folks in Rennes which is a hotbed for technological R&D and I never considered posting them here because I thought that no members would understand them.

[DanBa]

[batman2000]

Can hdr get rid of banding on non hdr sources.

[DanBa]

Technical descriptions by Charles Poynton‏ of terms relating to image appearance that are important to image signal processing in professionally produced digital cinema and video/HD/UHD (scene-referred, display-referred, mastering-display-referred, etc.):
https://twitter.com/momaku/status/834254655467245569

[batman2000]

please can anyone give me an answer on this question I have. so I know the big issue I have with my currant tv is gone when I get a hdr tv. by the way i'm not trying to be pushy ok sorry if it's coming out that way.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by batman2000

please can anyone give me an answer on this question I have. so I know the big issue I have with my currant tv is gone when I get a hdr tv. by the way i'm not trying to be pushy ok sorry if it's coming out that way.

The question doesn't really make sense.

But overall if you want less banding, buy a 2017 sony tv with the new X1 chip, it has extra processing to eliminate banding on all sources you watch.

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by ray0414

The question doesn't really make sense.

But overall if you want less banding, buy a 2017 sony tv with the new X1 chip, it has extra processing to eliminate banding on all sources you watch.

thank you. you made my day is sony the only tvs to do this? do you think input lag is going to be better on the new sony sets?

[LordoftheRings]

LG OLED TVs aren't good @ eliminating banding?

Them Sony TVs with that X1 chip; affordable, good performance overall, the best?
But all 2017 TV models and brands don't do 3D anymore. It's all HDR now, and some Visual Dolby. But 3-dimensional movie awesomeness experience is no more. Not in the 2017 models.

* Penton-Man, DanBa; what's the best TV for No-Banding? With or without HDR engaged.

Cheers,

[Robert Zohn]

I'll take a stab at this one... These remarks are strictly limited to banding issues, not overall picture quality or any other elements of image performance.

I would say if price is a consideration, I'd go for Sony's 2017 X900E series and if the budget is bigger, Sony's X940E with the X1 Extreme processor is likely to be among the best.

With all this said the Z9D would be my ultimate choice ultimate choice or a OLED with an outboard video processor.

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

I'll take a stab at this one... These remarks are strictly limited to banding issues, not overall picture quality or any other elements of image performance.

I would say if price is a consideration, I'd go for Sony's 2017 X900E series and if the budget is bigger, Sony's X940E with the X1 Extreme processor is likely to be among the best.

With all this said the Z9D would be my ultimate choice ultimate choice or a OLED with an outboard video processor.

ok will the sony's input lag being only being great ruin gaming for me? also is 3d that great that it's a deal breaker? please answer these finally questions

[Robert Zohn]

I like 3D and am sorry it's not on the 2017 line-up. Not sure about Sony's input lag performance, but their excellent video processing would tend to slow down the display's response time. However, in the "Game" mode all video processing is turned off.

Personally and professionally I'd recommend a 2016 OLED TV. The B6's recent firmware upgrade further reduced input lag.

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

I like 3D and am sorry it's not on the 2017 line-up. Not sure about Sony's input lag performance, but their excellent video processing would tend to slow down the display's response time. However, in the "Game" mode all video processing is turned off.

Personally and professionally I'd recommend a 2016 OLED TV. The B6's recent firmware upgrade further reduced input lag.

does that mean color banding would show up?

[puddy77]

Originally Posted by batman2000

Can hdr get rid of banding on non hdr sources.

Originally Posted by batman2000

does that mean color banding would show up?

Your question is a little more complicated than a simple yes or no. People are recommending the top of the line Sonys because they are usually known to have the best processing around. But that doesn't mean they won't show banding. There are a lot more things that can cause banding: the display, the source, the player, the receiver, the HDMI cables, etc... There are people here that still see banding on HDR blu-rays. Sometimes its corroborated to be the source by multiple people seeing it on multiple displays using multiple players. But sometimes a change in setting in the player will fix it. Or a change of cables, etc... So I don't think anyone can guarantee if you buy a top of the line Sony, you will never see banding again. You just have to roll the dice and hope for the best.

[LordoftheRings]

But buying a TV on "hope for the best" is not truly the best tactic.

Is there a better tactic than that?

[batman2000]

why don't they make tvs around gaming so there is no need for game mode?

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by batman2000

why don't they make tvs around gaming so there is no need for game mode?

2017 sony 930e measures 25ms on the lag tester.

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by ray0414

2017 sony 930e measures 25ms on the lag tester.

Really how do you know?