Avengers: Infinity War (2018)

[GLaDOS]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Very, very curious to see how the resolution of these new 2D digital IMAX cameras stack up against the IMAX film cameras.

From what I've heard, these new IMAX Digital 2D cameras are essentially modified Arri Alexa 65's, which have almost the same image size as regular 5-perf 65 mm film (54.12 mm by 25.88 mm to be exact, so slightly larger image).

I highly doubt these new cameras would outperform IMAX film cameras at the moment, but I hope they at least keep the 1.43:1 aspect ratio.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by GLaDOS

From what I've heard, these new IMAX Digital 2D cameras are essentially modified Arri Alexa 65's, which have almost the same image size as regular 5-perf 65 mm film (54.12 mm by 25.88 mm to be exact, so slightly larger image).

I highly doubt these new cameras would outperform IMAX film cameras at the moment, but I hope they at least keep the 1.43:1 aspect ratio.

Sweet info. Thanks.

[Scorpion Soldier]

Originally Posted by R3P0

Pretty much a requirement, hope its not 3d IMAX just give me 2D im burned out on 3d

I think it being 3D is pretty much a given at this point.

[DisneyBlu]

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[Dreamliner330]

Thats pretty cool that Infinity War will be 100% IMAX.

I find movies shot digitally tend to look better as there are not errors and inconsistencies that you get with film (flicker, light banding, hair, dust, etc).

I do find the HUGE step down in resolution a big problem though. There will never be any 'rescanning' for more content. Right now they are scanning 50 year old film at 4K resolution and are pulling more content.

With the amount of CGI and digital negatives, I highly doubt we will ever get anything higher than the original master, ever. Tons of movies over the last 20 years (and many today) were finished at 2K.

[spectre08]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner330

Thats pretty cool that Infinity War will be 100% IMAX.

I find movies shot digitally tend to look better as there are not errors and inconsistencies that you get with film (flicker, light banding, hair, dust, etc).

I do find the HUGE step down in resolution a big problem though. There will never be any 'rescanning' for more content. Right now they are scanning 50 year old film at 4K resolution and are pulling more content.

With the amount of CGI and digital negatives, I highly doubt we will ever get anything higher than the original master, ever.

film has it's resolution limit as well, it doesn't capture anywhere near an infinite amount of information, contrary to popular belief.

Some 35mm film with high ISO ratings actually have considerably fewer light absorbing crystals than even a 2K digital camera. Even high ISO 70mm still has lower resolution than a 4K or beyond digital camera.

You can't just blow up a film print as large as you want anymore than you can do so with a digital image.

[Dreamliner330]

Originally Posted by spectre08

film has it's resolution limit as well, it doesn't capture anywhere near an infinite amount of information, contrary to popular belief.

Some 35mm film with high ISO ratings actually have considerably fewer light absorbing crystals than even a 2K digital camera. Even high ISO 70mm still has lower resolution than a 4K or beyond digital camera.

You can't just blow up a film print as large as you want anymore than you can do so with a digital image.

Oh I know. A lot of flim rescans are hitting their limits. I'm talking about IMAX giving up on 70mm.

Shouldn't be a surprise, they're trying to pass off a pair of 2K projectors as IMAX anyhow. I'm curious how the new 4K projectors will retrofit into the 2K 1.9:1 setups, I bet they'll just crop to 1.9:1.

At least old films used models and optics for sfx and not cgi. Star Trek TNG looks great on Blu-ray, good luck resurrecting DS9 or Voyager with all that video resolution 'negatives' and video resolution CGI.

Most films are being mastered at 2K still. Hopefully they push to something higher than 4K soon.

[spectre08]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner330

Oh I know. A lot of flim rescans are hitting their limits. I'm talking about IMAX giving up on 70mm.

Shouldn't be a surprise, they're trying to pass off a pair of 2K projectors as IMAX anyhow. I'm curious how the new 4K projectors will retrofit into the 2K 1.9:1 setups, I bet they'll just crop to 1.9:1.

At least old films used models and optics for sfx and not cgi. Star Trek TNG looks great on Blu-ray, good luck resurrecting DS9 or Voyager with all that video resolution CGI.

this is true. I would be curious now to see how they're storing that CGI information. Just like with Toy Story, if the data is stored as a 3D model instead of as a fixed image, it's possible to simply render and export it at whatever resolution you want.

That's the beauty of a digital image over film and practical models at least. As long as camera makers like Sony and RED keep pushing their cameras to higher and higher resolution we'll be well off. We're already to a point where super high resolution digital is nearly indistinguishable from 35mm and even 70mm film once it's projected.

In theory digital has the potential for much higher resolution than film. Digital SLRs have already well surpassed the resolution of 35mm film.

[Uncanny]

Originally Posted by GLaDOS

From what I've heard, these new IMAX Digital 2D cameras are essentially modified Arri Alexa 65's, which have almost the same image size as regular 5-perf 65 mm film (54.12 mm by 25.88 mm to be exact, so slightly larger image).

I highly doubt these new cameras would outperform IMAX film cameras at the moment, but I hope they at least keep the 1.43:1 aspect ratio.

So when Infinity War comes out on a 4K Bluray disc it should be in true 4k or is this movie being shot in 2K?

[BozQ]

Originally Posted by Uncanny

So when Infinity War comes out on a 4K Bluray disc it should be in true 4k or is this movie being shot in 2K?

The camera is shot in 6K, and there's still time to upgrade hardware and software to accommodate a full 4K work flow. Since Marvel made a deal with IMAX, there's also a good chance IMAX wants to take this opportunity to capitalize on their new IMAX with Laser 4K projection and 12 channel surround!

They start shooting by end of 2016, and the movie is only released in 2018, so there's time to work it out!

[kristoffer]

Originally Posted by GLaDOS

From what I've heard, these new IMAX Digital 2D cameras are essentially modified Arri Alexa 65's, which have almost the same image size as regular 5-perf 65 mm film (54.12 mm by 25.88 mm to be exact, so slightly larger image).

I highly doubt these new cameras would outperform IMAX film cameras at the moment, but I hope they at least keep the 1.43:1 aspect ratio.

Cool. Now that is a big sensor!

[Elbie]

Originally Posted by R3P0

Pretty much a requirement, hope its not 3d IMAX just give me 2D im burned out on 3d

Uh, if it's 3D only I think I'll cry. [emoji22]

[BozQ]

I think it will most definitely be in IMAX 3D. Sorry. :/

[Hussun1]

AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR Films To Be Shot Entirely Using IMAX - AMC Movie News - YouTube

[Diesel]

Sucks that an IMAX 3D ticket will be $20 for a matinee by that time

[Tony208]

How many full features outside of documentaries have been 100% Imax?

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by tony208

how many full features outside of documentaries have been 100% imax?

0

[Dreamliner330]

Originally Posted by Tony208

How many full features outside of documentaries have been 100% Imax?

Longest sequential run time (about 50 minutes) so far is Hunger Games: Catching Fire (the entire game sequence is in IMAX) with the coolest transition ever (obviously better in real IMAX):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqYQEJXez_E

[Elbie]

Originally Posted by Hussun1

AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR Films To Be Shot Entirely Using IMAX - AMC Movie News - YouTube

Pretty cool. This the Campea I like. Not the one trashing Agents of Shield whenever MCU is brought up.

[Ray_Rogers]

Originally Posted by Elbie

Pretty cool. This the Campea I like. Not the one trashing Agents of Shield whenever MCU is brought up.

At least AoS has

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