Avengers: Infinity War (2018)

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by spanky87

Just because an actor is retiring from the franchise it doesn't mean their character has to be killed off. I'd like to see either Tony or Cap get to ride off into the sunset at the end of Avengers 4. And if either of them is going to die then it should happen in this movie so we can see the fallout and how the characters deal with their loss in Avengers 4.

Well, we have about five weeks left, so...

[Worship.my.wreck]

As much as I love Cap, and even Tony, I would rather have them die than live but we never see them again. Their deaths would be very emotional and plus, it would be more realistic than saying they're just "retired" and gone off somewhere.

[Elbie]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

Chris Evans already re-upped once, to make sure Steve could appear in Avengers 4. If they don't decide to kill him off, and he comes back later, I would not be surprised if Chris negotiates it one film at a time. He's gone on record to say that his main hesitation about playing Cap to begin with, was essentially surrendering the next ten years of his life to a binding legal contract.

Just cause they say stuff in interviews doesn't mean a thing. Actors are people, they can change their mind. That all I'm saying. People to obsessed with what they say in interviews and what people are saying about contracts when none of us really know what happens.

Originally Posted by spanky87

Just because an actor is retiring from the franchise it doesn't mean their character has to be killed off. I'd like to see either Tony or Cap get to ride off into the sunset at the end of Avengers 4. And if either of them is going to die then it should happen in this movie so we can see the fallout and how the characters deal with their loss in Avengers 4.

Exactly

Originally Posted by Worship.my.wreck

As much as I love Cap, and even Tony, I would rather have them die than live but we never see them again. Their deaths would be very emotional and plus, it would be more realistic than saying they're just "retired" and gone off somewhere.

Don't understand how it's more realistic. Most people that decide to hang up their profession don't get murdered on the way out. [emoji23]

[Vandal Savage]

Originally Posted by Worship.my.wreck

As much as I love Cap, and even Tony, I would rather have them die than live but we never see them again. Their deaths would be very emotional and plus, it would be more realistic than saying they're just "retired" and gone off somewhere.

They could be allowed to live, and then make cameos in future movies without the original actors. Iron Man is CGI, and Captain America wears a mask that covers most of his face.

[Elbie]

So, I don't read comics, but I just saw an "Infinity War Prelude" comic. Is this considered canon?

[Worship.my.wreck]

Originally Posted by Elbie

Don't understand how it's more realistic. Most people that decide to hang up their profession don't get murdered on the way out. [emoji23]

How can you even compare what they do to a normal job? Makes zero sense.

And no, having them "retire" and never see them again is not realistic because Cap and even Tony have shown that they will never stand back and let the world go to shit. If they were ever needed, they would always step up to the plate as ALL true hero's do.

Saying that they retire then when some other big threat happens in future movies, would leave everyone wondering where Cap and Tony are. I doubt they would ever sit back and just let shit happen and not do anything about it.

That is why, the best to to go about it is to give them honorable deaths.

[Worship.my.wreck]

Originally Posted by Vandal Savage

They could be allowed to live, and then make cameos in future movies without the original actors. Iron Man is CGI, and Captain America wears a mask that covers most of his face.

What is the point of a CGI Iron Man? Just bring back RDJ if you need the character back. And I would rather just see them die trying to protect the world/universe than to see them get recasted in other films.

IMO, none of the characters should get recast, UNTIL the whole MCU is rebooted, if that ever even happens. Until then, there's plenty of other hero's they can focus on.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by Elbie

Just cause they say stuff in interviews doesn't mean a thing. Actors are people, they can change their mind. That all I'm saying. People to obsessed with what they say in interviews and what people are saying about contracts when none of us really know what happens.

We can make a reasonable assumption, since there's really only two options: either the actor in question signs another contract or they don't. If not, their character is retired, killed, or recast. Marvel hasn't done much of the latter in general, aside from early exceptions like Don Cheadle, Mark Ruffalo, and John Slattery.

If Chris decides not to continue as Steve, and the character remains alive, fans won't accept anyone else filling his shoes. Bucky or Sam could still assume the Captain America mantle, but the moment the new Steve shows up...you'll hear howls of protest worse than a werewolf convention. There's certain instances, where the actor and character become synonymous in the audience's mind. Christopher Reeve was one such example...and within the MCU, I think Robert Downey and Chris Evans have both reached that level.

[HockeySlasher]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

We can make a reasonable assumption, since there's really only two options: either the actor in question signs another contract or they don't. If not, their character is retired, killed, or recast. Marvel hasn't done much of the latter in general, aside from early exceptions like Don Cheadle, Mark Ruffalo, and John Slattery.

If Chris decides not to continue as Steve, and the character remains alive, fans won't accept anyone else filling his shoes. Bucky or Sam could still assume the Captain America mantle, but the moment the new Steve shows up...you'll hear howls of protest worse than a werewolf convention. There's certain instances, where the actor and character become synonymous in the audience's mind. Christopher Reeve was one such example...and within the MCU, I think Robert Downey and Chris Evans have both reached that level.

Sure... remember when they had to stop making Bond movies when Connery left the role because everybody was protesting? Or, was it after Brosnan left? I can't remember.

And Warners never used Joker in any movie after Jack's epic 1989 version... oh, and there was so much backlash over Kilmer taking over for Keaton as Batman that Batman Forever made $184 million dollars back in 1995.

My point is, the audience will get over it... There might be some comments about how its weird not seeing Evans as Steve Rogers, but howls of protest? Com'on.

If there is enough meat on the bone for them to continue Steve's story for another movie, then sure, try to get Evans back, but if Disney/Marvel wants to make another trilogy, guess what, they better recast. Evans is 36 now. CA:TFA came out in 2011 when he was 29. So, if another trilogy spans 7-8 years of his life, that's a 40-something year old Steve/Cap? No. No thank you.

[Elbie]

Originally Posted by Worship.my.wreck

How can you even compare what they do to a normal job? Makes zero sense.

It makes as much sense as what you said. They're fictional characters.

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

We can make a reasonable assumption, since there's really only two options: either the actor in question signs another contract or they don't. If not, their character is retired, killed, or recast. Marvel hasn't done much of the latter in general, aside from early exceptions like Don Cheadle, Mark Ruffalo, and John Slattery.

If Chris decides not to continue as Steve, and the character remains alive, fans won't accept anyone else filling his shoes. Bucky or Sam could still assume the Captain America mantle, but the moment the new Steve shows up...you'll hear howls of protest worse than a werewolf convention. There's certain instances, where the actor and character become synonymous in the audience's mind. Christopher Reeve was one such example...and within the MCU, I think Robert Downey and Chris Evans have both reached that level.

Too many assumptions we just don't know. Just got to watch it play out on the screen. This whole this person is going to die, that person is going to retire just setting people up for another "The Last Jedi." Expecting things to happen their way.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

We can make a reasonable assumption, since there's really only two options: either the actor in question signs another contract or they don't. If not, their character is retired, killed, or recast. Marvel hasn't done much of the latter in general, aside from early exceptions like Don Cheadle, Mark Ruffalo, and John Slattery.

If Chris decides not to continue as Steve, and the character remains alive, fans won't accept anyone else filling his shoes. Bucky or Sam could still assume the Captain America mantle, but the moment the new Steve shows up...you'll hear howls of protest worse than a werewolf convention. There's certain instances, where the actor and character become synonymous in the audience's mind. Christopher Reeve was one such example...and within the MCU, I think Robert Downey and Chris Evans have both reached that level.

Who's John Slattery?

[RodChester]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

Who's John Slattery?

Howard Stark.

[Worship.my.wreck]

Originally Posted by Elbie

It makes as much sense as what you said. They're fictional characters.

Uhh...no?

What I said makes completely perfect sense. Fictional characters or not, the point of the matter is Steve Rodgers and Tony Stark would Never walk away and just let whatever bad things happen to the world or the universe. That's completely uncharacteristic of them.

You can't compare any normal job to a super hero's job, even in the fictional world. That is just ridiculous.

[Elbie]

Originally Posted by Worship.my.wreck

Uhh...no?

What I said makes completely perfect sense. Fictional characters or not, the point of the matter is Steve Rodgers and Tony Stark would Never walk away and just let whatever bad things happen to the world or the universe. That's completely uncharacteristic of them.

You can't compare any normal job to a super hero's job, even in the fictional world. That is just ridiculous.

It doesn't make perfect sense, it's just your opinion. [emoji5]

If they die, they die but all this assuming they're dying, and saying they need to die because blah blah blah is just silly to me. Not one of us know what about to happen, so just got to watch and enjoy the ride.

[jayman3]

Originally Posted by Elbie

So, I don't read comics, but I just saw an "Infinity War Prelude" comic. Is this considered canon?

It's canon as the prelude comics are a part of the MCU.

[Elbie]

Originally Posted by jayman3

It's canon as the prelude comics are a part of the MCU.

Good to know. I think I will check it out to help me with this long wait for the film. Thank you!

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by HockeySlasher

Sure... remember when they had to stop making Bond movies when Connery left the role because everybody was protesting? Or, was it after Brosnan left? I can't remember.

And Warners never used Joker in any movie after Jack's epic 1989 version... oh, and there was so much backlash over Kilmer taking over for Keaton as Batman that Batman Forever made $184 million dollars back in 1995.

My point is, the audience will get over it... There might be some comments about how its weird not seeing Evans as Steve Rogers, but howls of protest? Com'on.

If there is enough meat on the bone for them to continue Steve's story for another movie, then sure, try to get Evans back, but if Disney/Marvel wants to make another trilogy, guess what, they better recast. Evans is 36 now. CA:TFA came out in 2011 when he was 29. So, if another trilogy spans 7-8 years of his life, that's a 40-something year old Steve/Cap? No. No thank you.

I never said every actor who played a superhero became synonymous with it, but it still happens every once in a while. There's many people who still consider Jack Nicholson or Mark Hamill the definitive Joker, and the same goes for Sean Connery as James Bond. While other efforts are usually made to continue without an established actor, the fanbase is often split every time that decision's made. I remember there was quite a bit of protest going on, when Anne Hathaway was first cast in The Dark Knight Rises - a lot of people still associated Michelle Pfeiffer with Catwoman. Tom Hardy didn't have to worry about that for Bane, since the previous version was almost universally despised. But any actor who tries to play Tony Stark or Steve Rogers in the future will face huge pressure from the fans...and a lot of condemnation as well.

[HockeySlasher]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I never said every actor who played a superhero became synonymous with it, but it still happens every once in a while. There's many people who still consider Jack Nicholson or Mark Hamill the definitive Joker, and the same goes for Sean Connery as James Bond. While other efforts are usually made to continue without an established actor, the fanbase is often split every time that decision's made. I remember there was quite a bit of protest going on, when Anne Hathaway was first cast in The Dark Knight Rises - a lot of people still associated Michelle Pfeiffer with Catwoman. Tom Hardy didn't have to worry about that for Bane, since the previous version was almost universally despised. But any actor who tries to play Tony Stark or Steve Rogers in the future will face huge pressure from the fans...and a lot of condemnation as well.

I never said every actor became synonymous with their superhero roles either. But, I did use Connery, Jack and Keaton because those three ARE tied to those roles... and yet... all of them were replaced, and the franchises continued to thrive. Was there a small group of people who claim that they'd never go see a Bond movie without Connery... sure, but it would have to be a small, small percentage.

And, if I remember correctly, the "backlash" against Hathaway wasn't so much because people associated Catwoman with Pfeiffer, it was because people thought Hathaway would make a terrible catwoman.

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by Elbie

So, I don't read comics, but I just saw an "Infinity War Prelude" comic. Is this considered canon?

Everything Marvel related can be considered canon thanks to the multiverse.

[jayman3]

Avengers: Infinity War advanced ticket sales are 256% ahead of Black Panther, 715% ahead of Captain America: Civil War, and a whopping 1,106% ahead of Avengers: Age of Ultron.

Could this film break Star Wars: The Force Awakens domestic gross and top Avatar's worldwide gross earning over 2 billion dollars??