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Old 06-23-2018, 03:53 PM   #9441
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And yet Black Widow was able to take down Proxima Midnight with such ease as she did her Russian goons from the beginning of Avengers
Yep. Even Capt got his ass kicked by one of the Black order.
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Old 06-23-2018, 03:57 PM   #9442
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And yet Black Widow was able to take down Proxima Midnight with such ease as she did her Russian goons from the beginning of Avengers
When did she fight Proxima one on one? Fight one, she had help from Cap and Falcon. In the second fight Wanda and Okoye.
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:02 PM   #9443
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When did she fight Proxima one on one? Fight one, she had help from Cap and Falcon. In the second fight Wanda and Okoye.
Watch the scene again. Natasha does her spy-jitzu moves on her and takes her out in mere seconds. And 2 normal humans with 1 super soldier shouldn't be able to take down the fearsome "Black Order" so quickly. The only powerful one was Ebony Maw (which wasn't in that scene) & he seemed almost stronger than Thanos (without all the stones)
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:13 PM   #9444
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I absolutely loved the movie...though some of the scenes just didn't make (realistic) sense like that fight with Natasha & Proxima.
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:18 PM   #9445
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Watch the scene again. Natasha does her spy-jitzu moves on her and takes her out in mere seconds. And 2 normal humans with 1 super soldier shouldn't be able to take down the fearsome "Black Order" so quickly. The only powerful one was Ebony Maw (which wasn't in that scene) & he seemed almost stronger than Thanos (without all the stones)
You’re not taking into account the weapon Natasha used to take out PM.
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:36 PM   #9446
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Watch the scene again. Natasha does her spy-jitzu moves on her and takes her out in mere seconds. And 2 normal humans with 1 super soldier shouldn't be able to take down the fearsome "Black Order" so quickly. The only powerful one was Ebony Maw (which wasn't in that scene) & he seemed almost stronger than Thanos (without all the stones)
Falcon was the one that took her out. Widow has her spear and stabs Corvus. Proxmia then takes her weapon back, Widow and Cap then defend against her attacks, until Falcon flies in and kicks her. She falls near Corvus, and tells him to get up, he says he can't and they retreat.

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Old 06-23-2018, 04:47 PM   #9447
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You’re not taking into account the weapon Natasha used to take out PM.
Human spy gauntlets and stuff shouldn't be able to take out a member of a 5 person group who have conquered ENTIRE world's & their armies so easily....EVEN with Stark-Tech or Wakandan Tech. Sorry..I just don't see that as logical...and it defeats the purpose of how small and weak ALL of Earth is against this threat.


Edit...yea..I forgot she used the staff. But I still don't think she would be able to do it so easily. PM's physical strength would have had that staff out of Natasha's had in seconds. (Ie. give a regular military trained human a Lightsaber and match them up with a Sith lord with a lightsaber...yea... who is gonna win?)

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Old 06-23-2018, 04:52 PM   #9448
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Falcon was the one that took her out. Widow has her spear and stabs Corvus. Proxmia then takes her weapon back, Widow and Cap then defend against her attacks, until Falcon flies in and kicks her. She falls near Corvus, and tells him to get up, he says he can't and they retreat.

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LOL...Natasha did most of the beat down on PM. So lame that 2 normal humans and 1 enhanced Super Soldier take out those members of the Black Order faster & easier than they did with the Winter Soldier. (& Capt beats down PM but get swatted like a fly by Thanos...SO Thanos didn't really need his puny Black Order at all....except for Ebony Maw.) Corvus is the leader and can't get up after being stabbed once? Weak-sauce storytelling..its like when Po Dameron took out that Star Destroyer Dreadnought's big guns (so easily I might add)...LOL...The Rebellion should have just have Po go in front of all there attacks & just take out the First Order's ships all the time...it defeats ANY purpose of threat from the opposition/bad guys)

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Old 06-23-2018, 04:55 PM   #9449
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It's called getting the jump on someone.
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:03 PM   #9450
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It's called getting the jump on someone.
Its called that will only get you so far...


I just think that scene was poorly scripted (but as a fight scene not taking into account the actual characters & their abilities, it was filmed very well)

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Old 06-24-2018, 02:04 AM   #9451
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And yet Black Widow was able to take down Proxima Midnight with such ease as she did her Russian goons from the beginning of Avengers
Quite the opposite:

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Earlier in the scene Wanda softened both Midnight & Glaive for the Avengers to take them out. It makes sense, they were outnumbered that's why they bounced.

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Old 06-24-2018, 02:07 AM   #9452
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I thought it was a great scene.
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Old 06-24-2018, 02:26 PM   #9453
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Quite the opposite:

(shitty YT clips)




Earlier in the scene Wanda softened both Midnight & Glaive for the Avengers to take them out. It makes sense, they were outnumbered that's why they bounced.

That whole scene just made "The Black Order" nothing more than the " cheap goons" of the movie...weaklings...no different than Hydra agents or Ultron clones. As I said twice already...Ebony Maw was the only REAL threat (outside of Thanos) So really the rest were just there to fill time in the movie and served no real purpose other than that. VERY disappointed in how they handled them..Other than that & Thanos' different motivation from the comics...the Movie was epic. (which shows...even the best movies have flaws)

That's my story, I m sticking to it. Agree or disagree,. I really don't care.

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Old 06-25-2018, 12:16 PM   #9454
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AIUI that is simply because 3D is not part of the 4K 'agreed standards' and if everyone started implementing it differently it would be a nightmare for manufacturers of the players to be able to cope with them all.
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Old 06-25-2018, 02:57 PM   #9455
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When does the digital copy come out? I know it's on this thread but can't find it.
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Old 06-25-2018, 02:59 PM   #9456
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Old 06-25-2018, 03:03 PM   #9457
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That whole scene just made "The Black Order" nothing more than the " cheap goons" of the movie...weaklings...no different than Hydra agents or Ultron clones. As I said twice already...Ebony Maw was the only REAL threat (outside of Thanos) So really the rest were just there to fill time in the movie and served no real purpose other than that. VERY disappointed in how they handled them..Other than that & Thanos' different motivation from the comics...the Movie was epic. (which shows...even the best movies have flaws)

That's my story, I m sticking to it. Agree or disagree,. I really don't care.
Those are just your preferences though, not a flaws. There’s certainly nothing wrong with having likes and dislikes, but “I don’t like” does not equate to “flawed movie” (just like “I like” doesn’t equate to “flawless movie”).

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Old 06-25-2018, 03:36 PM   #9458
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I absolutely loved the movie...though some of the scenes just didn't make (realistic) sense like that fight with Natasha & Proxima.
It's a comic book movie. There's no need for realism...
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Old 06-25-2018, 03:37 PM   #9459
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Looks like this is leaving all my theatres locally this week, down to one showing at every theatre.

Gonna try and see this one last time (it's been almost 2 months since I've seen it) before its done theatrically.
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Old 06-25-2018, 04:01 PM   #9460
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It's a comic book movie. There's no need for realism...
People look way too hard into movies. Don't get me wrong, I genuinely enjoyed the movie but was questioning how a purple man and a green monster were beating one another up on a space ship, really took me out of the moment...
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