First Blood / Rambo: First Blood Part II / Rambo III 4K UHDs (1982-1988)

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by RaynMan2142

Special Assembly Cut for ALIEN Cubed (Blu-ray disc version) is vastly superior over the Theatrical Cut.

Great if all are derived from 4K remasters. As others I would've imported the AU set but held off on it. Wonder if Lionsgate will re-issue the BDs to be BD50s and etcetera or if they'll use the initial BDs.

I love the theatrical cut of Alien³ as well as the Assembly cut. If they do bring it to 4K then it's gonna need a new transfer and one wonders whether Fox will spring for that re: the Assembly version. It was cut together on IP material so I guess Fox could scan that whole thing but I'd much prefer if they accessed the oneg and then re-edited the Assembly version from there, providing they can also locate the negative for those trims.

[DMRI2006]

Originally Posted by LMFAObros

I bought the australian set less than a week ago and checked it. Rambo 3 is b locked and only has english audio and having the proper subs. There are only one subs so there arnt full subtitles like the first 2 movies. 1 and 2 are region free and have english subs and other dubs/subs plus extras on all 3. I will only get rambo in 4k if they package the extended cut with it

The Australian release is awesome, but even with the improved transfers and extras, there's an issue with the audio. The 5.1 DTS MA mixes are a total botch job, especially on II and III. Nearly all the stereo information is fed into the center channel and there's little dynamic range. Luckily they have the original 2-channel Dolby Stereo soundtracks (which sound great matrixed into surround as intended) on there, but whether or not Lionsgate gets that right on these UHD's...well I won't be holding my breath but hopefully they fix that up. Or at least include the original 2.0 stereo mixes on there.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by DMRI2006

The Australian release is awesome, but even with the improved transfers and extras, there's an issue with the audio. The 5.1 DTS MA mixes are a total botch job, especially on II and III. Nearly all the stereo information is fed into the center channel and there's little dynamic range. Luckily they have the original 2-channel Dolby Stereo soundtracks (which sound great matrixed into surround as intended) on there, but whether or not Lionsgate gets that right on these UHD's...well I won't be holding my breath but hopefully they fix that up. Or at least include the original 2.0 stereo mixes on there.

They should sound phenomenal, both Rambo II & III had 6-track (4.2) 70MM mixes, Rambo III getting a 70MM Dolby SR mix which has tremendous dynamic range.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

They should sound phenomenal, both Rambo II & III had 6-track (4.2) 70MM mixes, Rambo III getting a 70MM Dolby SR mix which has tremendous dynamic range.

That's if Lionsgate or Studio Canal is doing the audio mixes. If it's Lionsgate, they may be getting new Atmos tracks.

[Gold Ranger]

We need a hybrid cut of Rambo 4!

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

We need a hybrid cut of Rambo 4!

I'm still waiting for Rambo 2.

I think it's in the vault next to Alien 2.

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

I'm still waiting for Rambo 2.

I think it's in the vault next to Alien 2.

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[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

I'm still waiting for Rambo 2.

I think it's in the vault next to Alien 2.

Also:

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

Touche.

[imsounoriginal]

Definitely in for this, especially since I never upgraded 2-4 to Blu-ray. I don't like the fourth one much but I hope they include the unrated cut, which I've never seen.

[dcx4610]

I prefer the theatrical cut to the director's. It actually has less violence and the pacing feels off. It's still not bad but the cut is odd and feels like the work print. There are a couple of additional scenes I like but I could live without them.

I'm hoping the one disc has both cuts but if I had to pick just one, it's the theatrical.

[Daz_85]

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

You assume the framing is wrong on the StudioCanal remasters but every re-framed shot (some are identical framing) looks more correct and balanced.

Though the Rambo: First Blood II title and credits are very much shifted to the right of the screen. That can't be correct! Seems like a very silly thing to miss when it was being worked on for the remastered set.

[KcMsterpce]

Originally Posted by Daz_85

Though the Rambo: First Blood II title and credits are very much shifted to the right of the screen. That can't be correct! Seems like a very silly thing to miss when it was being worked on for the remastered set.

It was an artistic decision. It is a subliminal reminder of the movie's right-leaning agenda!

[DMRI2006]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

They should sound phenomenal, both Rambo II & III had 6-track (4.2) 70MM mixes, Rambo III getting a 70MM Dolby SR mix which has tremendous dynamic range.

They should but they don't. Hopefully it gets addressed for these releases.

[Geoff D]

The sound on the extended Blu-ray of Rambo (4th movie) is god-tier stuff. People can piss and moan about the extended cut removing the gore all they want, but the theatrical cut Blu-ray sounds like a ****ing wax cylinder* in comparison.


*note: that's hyperbole, for effect like

[KcMsterpce]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The sound on the extended Blu-ray of Rambo (4th movie) is god-tier stuff. People can piss and moan about the extended cut removing the gore all they want, but the theatrical cut Blu-ray sounds like a ****ing wax cylinder* in comparison.


*note: that's hyperbole, for effect like

Woah! They DNR'd the audio track?!

[Brian81]

Yesssss

[LexInHD]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

They should sound phenomenal, both Rambo II & III had 6-track (4.2) 70MM mixes, Rambo III getting a 70MM Dolby SR mix which has tremendous dynamic range.

Most likely, those mixes are gone for good with the blow-up prints or at the very least, lost in the uncatalogued mess of whatever elements have been archived for the respective films.

[Member-222782]

I don't think Lionsgate is 100% behind UHD. I mean, they'll release something on the format but there's going to be minimal effort to make the release the best it can be. I saw no difference in PQ between the Dredd BD and the UHD and just a small uptick (better colors) in 3:10 To Yuma. And I don't even want to start with T2. Waiting for reviews before taking the plunge with LG titles.

[ROSS.T.G.]

If they use the remastered Mongrels and add HDR I will be ok with that.