Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Theatrical Versions) - April 6, 2010

[Trogdor2010]

Originally Posted by jalabar

Why can't I be a fan of both?

Too easy to be cynical in topics such as this, it's just so temptimg to throw wood in the burning fire. I have no problem of how they treat it, and I have not seen the Lord of the rings movies in years, and I though of rewatching them on blu ray would reframe my opinion. I'm just thinking of how well they already did with classic films on Blu ray (especially The Seventh Seal), and how they tempered with fans by ignoring people who have more dedication (some more ignorant may call obsession) to their theater, so allow the people to make it easier to ingest on smaller televsion sets, and make those of us who spent much money and time on their theaters to choke on. I can't do anything about it though.

P.S. they really need to bring Lawrence of Arabia to blu ray.

(Edit: That doesn't mean I won't watch the Lord of The Rings on Blu ray, rent them at least. I want to see how well the cinematography is given in high definition.)

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Brodo Faggins

Am I missing the joke or something? Is this supposed to be an actual screenshot of the Blu-ray? I can tell you in no uncertain terms that the film paused on this exact same part compared to the screenshot im just looking at is like night and day.

I agree if that screenshot was how it looked it should have only gotten 1 star. It almost smells like a conspiracy here.
I am glad that someone has the discs is saying it does not look that bad

[Ken Brown]

Originally Posted by Brodo Faggins

Not entirely, Ive said myself that FOTR is not as good as the other two. But, I know that these 'faults' will soon be forgotten while youre watching the film, just like Ken has just mentioned. It is nowhere near as bad as it is being made out, certainly not enough to keep you from enjoying the film. The way I see it, LOTR/film fans will very soon forget about the quality when they start watching, whereas Blu-ray fans will not even bother buying it.

Just to clarify, I'll never forget the faults are there. I'll always wish the transfer was better. However, I actively try to work through my disappointment so I can enjoy a film I truly love.

Measured criticism has its place though, and hopefully inspires studios to strive for the utmost quality.

[Brodo Faggins]

Originally Posted by mredman

I agree if that screenshot was how it looked it should have only gotten 1 star. It almost smells like a conspiracy here.
I am glad that someone has the discs is saying it does not look that bad

Im guessing thats where the problem lies. Most people have looked at the screenshot on their laptop/PC, and have passed judgment. It looked completely different when I viewed it on my TV.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

Expecting it to drop at about $50 in almost 2 weeks, especially with what seems to be an Internet-wide outcry about the less than stellar transfers on the three beloved films.

I agree... I also see a relatively quick drop on this for this reason.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Brodo Faggins

If what youre saying is right, and that screenshot has been posted to give people a feel of the Blu-ray, it is now me who feels bad for people choosing not to purchase this because of them. They could not be any more different.

Wow now i am relieved. That is so good to hear. Then why do they post a picture that does not show how it really looks. When infact it looks WAY better then this

[Q?]

I want to thank Kenneth Brown for giving an honest review, as I consider myself duly informed now.
All I have to do now is to have arguments with myself, which one to listen to, the DNR hater or the LOTR fan

[petmic10]

Originally Posted by mredman

I agree if that screenshot was how it looked it should have only gotten 1 star. It almost smells like a conspiracy here.
I am glad that someone has the discs is saying it does not look that bad

How about Ken, a reviewer from this site? He obviously has the discs
and FOTR is that bad. The other two are much better but still have
problems.

Did you read his review?

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by Brodo Faggins

Im guessing thats where the problem lies. Most people have looked at the screenshot on their laptop/PC, and have passed judgment. It looked completely different when I viewed it on my TV.

Again, the caps are what is on the disc.

There is no conspiracy. It looks "different" on your display because of your display, not because of the caps.

How it appears on your TV will be different how it appears on my TV, it will be different to how it appears on his TV, their TV's, etc. Displays differ.

I'm looking forward with this being the parroted theme for the next 10 pages.

How it looks in the caps is how it is on the disc, period.

How it looks on your TV is only how it looks on your TV.

[Ken Brown]

Originally Posted by mredman

Wow now i am relieved. That is so good to hear. Then why do they post a picture that does not show how it really looks. When infact it looks WAY better then this

The shot in the film doesn't look better than the screenshot. It's a direct screengrab from the disc. Different TVs can artificially enhance a poor transfer. Once various sharpening options, contrast boosting, etc are switched off, this is how the image looks on the disc. This is the exact same methodology and equipment we use for all our screenshots. The pics for 'Toy Story' and 'Toy Story 2' (not to mention every high-scoring release) look amazing for the same reason -- our shots are captured directly from the disc.

My apologies for any confusion

[Ken Brown]

Originally Posted by Q!

All I have to do now is to have arguments with myself, which one to listen to, the DNR hater or the LOTR fan

Well said, sir

[Bishop_99]

Screenshots have always been useful for me in, I know what to expect from a Blu-ray disc. When I'm interested in buying a movie I can come here, look at the screenshot and get a fairly accurate idea of how the movie will look. Here are two examples:

Twister (Extremely soft through out. Fine detail is almost none existent)
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/scree...=88&position=8

Man On Fire (Strongly detailed and sharp)
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/scree...14&position=11


Now when I bought these movies and viewed them, I pretty much got what showed up on the screenshots. Twister never revealed fine detail and sadly it never became sharper. Man On Fire had a great amount of detail, just like the screenshots showed. I'm greatful for the screenshots because they do help you understand the image quality of the movie. I also can notice the lack of detail on Blu-ray discs on smaller screens. At times I'll watch a Blu-ray movie on a 21.5 1080p monitor and it's easy to see the difference between a movie like Twister and Man On Fire.

Thankfully, I never cared about the Lord Of The Rings Movie so it doesn't affect me, but it has brought forward a very interesting discussion.

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by Trogdor2010

P.S. they really need to bring Lawrence of Arabia to blu ray.

I know....... I can't wait


And in regards to the "It doesn't look that way on my T.V." comments. I would highly recommend a professional calibration for your set as it will greatly enhance the viewing experience of the Blu-rays out there that in fact do have reference quality video transfers.

[Ken Brown]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

I know....... I can't wait

And in regards to the "It doesn't look that way on my T.V." comments. I would highly recommend a professional calibration for your set as it will greatly enhance the viewing experience of the Blu-rays out there that in fact do have reference quality video transfers.

Indeed. On both counts

[mredman]

Originally Posted by TheZoof

The weird thing is that the same reviewer gave the identical Video rating for that "Mr. Fantastic Fox" as he did for TTT and TRoTK.

I dunno. As long as they look sharp and clear I will be happy.

In my mind nothing can top "Princess and the Frog". THat blew me away.

You know what movie blew me away was Texas Chainsaw Massacre (new one)
Jawdropping stunning transferl

Animation Coraline almost 3D pop out image and wasn't even watching the 3D version

[kpkelley]

Originally Posted by mredman

Animation Coraline almost 3D pop out image and wasn't even watching the 3D version

If you were watching the 3d version you wouldn't have been celebrating, you probably would have been puking into a bucket instead.

[Brodo Faggins]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

Again, the caps are what is on the disc.

There is no conspiracy. It looks "different" on your display because of your display, not because of the caps.

How it appears on your TV will be different how it appears on my TV, it will be different to how it appears on his TV, their TV's, etc. Displays differ.

I'm looking forward with this being the parroted theme for the next 10 pages.

How it looks in the caps is how it is on the disc, period.

How it looks on your TV is only how it looks on your TV.

In both instances, I was referring to the screencap. I said a few posts earlier that there was a slight difference between the disc paused and the jpeg, almost negligible. What Im getting at is, it looked very poor on my laptop, how many other people have viewed it in a similar way and passed judgment? Probably the vast majority.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Brodo Faggins

FYI, I am viewing on a 46" Sony Z Series Bravia from about 8 feet, not sure what the equivalent is where you are, but it is one of the higher end panels here. Ill try and get around to viewing on my HD projector on an 84" screen later tonight and see what difference it makes.

So glad you say the screenshot everwhere does not look anything like they do when you watch it on a 46". And that they are much better

Can't wait to hear your verdict on how it looks on the 84" screen. Please let us know

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

The first film always looked inferior to the others, both theatrically and on DVD. Blu-ray just makes that more apparent. I'm still going to buy it, and I'll double dip when the extended versions are released.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

AHEM!

https://forum.blu-ray.com/3077741-post5344.html

Pete - you're a great guy, I like your posts. Don't be bitter. CaptVeg is an old friend of mine, I read his post first. You're both right.

Cheers!