Samsung 4K UHD Blu-ray Player UBD-K8500

[RockyIII]

Can anyone please explain why all the uhd shows I am watching look like small budget 1980s soap operas??

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[KenHurd]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Can anyone please explain why all the uhd shows I am watching look like small budget 1980s soap operas??

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Do you have the Auto Motion (I believe it's called Smooth Motion in Vizio TVs) turned on? I originally turned mine off on my Samsung TV, but when I connected my UHD player to it, it automatically turned it back on. Once I turned it off with the UHD player connected, it remained off.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by KenHurd

Do you have the Auto Motion (I believe it's called Smooth Motion in Vizio TVs) turned on? I originally turned mine off on my Samsung TV, but when I connected my UHD player to it, it automatically turned it back on. Once I turned it off with the UHD player connected, it remained off.

I used one of the pre-set calibrations that come with the TV with a few tweaks of my likings. Why would Smooth Motion (called "Reduce Judder" on my specific Vizio model) make a million-dollar 4K movie look like my uncle filmed it with his handy cam??

[KenHurd]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

I used one of the pre-set calibrations that come with the TV with a few tweaks of my likings. Why would Smooth Motion (called "Reduce Judder" on my specific Vizio model) make a million-dollar 4K movie look like my uncle filmed it with his handy cam??

Because, if I'm understanding the feature correctly, movies are shot at 24 fps, but this feature adds frames to make the image 60 fps. Since movies and most TV shows are shot at 24 fps, it's best to leave that feature off. I pretty much only watch movies and TV shows on my TV, but that feature may be good for something like sports or news.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by KenHurd

Because, if I'm understanding the feature correctly, movies are shot at 24 fps, but this feature adds frames to make the image 60 fps. Since movies and most TV shows are shot at 24 fps, it's best to leave that feature off. I pretty much only watch movies and TV shows on my TV, but that feature may be good for something like sports or news.

If I leave that feature off, people and objects leave a "halo" or trail on the screen when they move.

[ramzy1]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

If I leave that feature off, people and objects leave a "halo" or trail on the screen when they move.

Reduce the setting to the bare minimum that you can stand. The blur or trail is just a by-product of LCD screens. Some of them have very little, some have a lot.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by ramzy1

Reduce the setting to the bare minimum that you can stand. The blur or trail is just a by-product of LCD screens. Some of them have very little, some have a lot.

I take the soap opera effect over the moving trails/halos on the screen. It's just interesting that the SOEffect is so much more pronounced on uhd programs than on 1080 format. I was watching Daredevil 2 on Netflix and my wife said that it looked like an episode of As the World Turns with action scenes[emoji4]

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[ramzy1]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

I take the soap opera effect over the moving trails/halos on the screen. It's just interesting that the SOEffect is so much more pronounced on uhd programs than on 1080 format. I was watching Daredevil 2 on Netflix and my wife said that it looked like an episode of As the World Turns with action scenes[emoji4]

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Perhaps Vizio's SOE algorithm treats 4k signals differently.

[elwaylite]

In the past I have seen the opposite where 60hz material looks worse (SOE or stuttering) but 24hz looks nice and smooth, but not too much.

For instance on my display I have trumotion off now for 60hz material, but it gets turned on for 24hz material.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by ramzy1

Perhaps Vizio's SOE algorithm treats 4k signals differently.

Well, if the goal is to display a more realistic picture, it worked. I mean, it feels as though I am watching the show through the lens of a hand-held camera that was filming the "Making of the Movie", like looking in through a glass.

[waff]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Ok guys, need some help:
I finally put together my new Vizio D 50" TV, UHD Samsung 8500, and of course my Denon 910.
What I found out after hours of trial and error is that the only way I can get 4K Netflix content in 4K UHD is by dual HDMI connection (Samsung to TV and TV to Denon). If I simply connect TV to Denon Output and player to Denon Input all the 4K Netflix programs are displayed in HD 1080 only

Did you get a response to this? For some reason I don't see any 4K content on the Netflix app using the 8500. I do have that as part of my account and use it with the Roku 4, but I can't seem to get this to even be an option for the UHD player. Any thoughts from any members?

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by waff

Did you get a response to this? For some reason I don't see any 4K content on the Netflix app using the 8500. I do have that as part of my account and use it with the Roku 4, but I can't seem to get this to even be an option for the UHD player. Any thoughts from any members?

Problem solved...The issue is that you CANNOT have any other non-UHD devices plugged into the receiver at the same time.
Even if not using a device connected to one of the receiver's outputs. that device still sends a return EDID signal to the receiver via HDMI. This signal is conveyed back to the HDMI source and will be used by a Blu-ray player to determine what that player can legitimately output. I solved this by disconnecting my non-UHD projector from the receiver

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Problem solved...The issue is that you CANNOT have any other non-UHD devices plugged into the receiver at the same time.
Even if not using a device connected to one of the receiver's outputs. that device still sends a return EDID signal to the receiver via HDMI. This signal is conveyed back to the HDMI source and will be used by a Blu-ray player to determine what that player can legitimately output. I solved this by disconnecting my non-UHD projector from the receiver

Holy god, if that's true HDCP 2.2 is a total clusterf*ck.

[elwaylite]

Are you using Monitor 1 and Mon 2 like mirrors? If so that is correct. The AVR is reporting that one device is not compliant.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

Are you using Monitor 1 and Mon 2 like mirrors? If so that is correct. The AVR is reporting that one device is not compliant.

Yeah, now I see that it looks like both monitor out devices must be HDCP 2.2 compliant.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

Are you using Monitor 1 and Mon 2 like mirrors? If so that is correct. The AVR is reporting that one device is not compliant.

At least my Denon receiver comes with "Dual Output", one with ARC and one without ARC. The Output without ARC had my HD projector connected, the other was empty up until I connected my new UHD Vizio TV. However, as long as Output 2 stayed connected to my projector, no 4K content was available on my Samsung UHD player. As soon as I disconnected the projector all 4K content was suddenly available on the Samsung

[Jodi]

I think I will be getting the Sammy K8500 UHD BD player later this summer. Can someone please briefly run down a short list of firmware upgrades that the K8500 has had so far? Thanks......

[reanimator]

I realize it's mainly for marketing, but the Samsung K8500 recently earned UltraHD Premium certification from the UHD Alliance. I'm now going on 3 very satisfying months with this player.

http://www.cdrlabs.com/News/samsungs...ification.html

[Rbtrucking4]

I just recently purchased the 4K Samsung player and overall I am very happy with it, it plays 4k disks great as well as regular Blu-ray but I have ran into a slight problem. When playing digital media off a USB stick it has trouble staying in SYNC with the audio and video and it just doesn't look like the picture is flowing naturally.

I have never had this issue on any of my other players and I have tried several different files, to assure myself that it's not the file. Has anyone else had this issue, know of any fixes?

[RockyIII]

So far my new UHD setup is working wonderful...One thing I notice though is that when I play blurays (non-UHD) from the Samsung player to the TV (via Denon receiver, of course), once in a while I lose signal for a few seconds, and then signal is found again.
This ONLY happens when playing blurays. It does not happen when streaming from the Samsung to the TV vi Denon receiver, and it does not happen when playing blurays from Samsung player to my projectors. Do you think it is a matter of HDMI handshake? But if that was the case, shouldnt it happen no matter what I play, and not just when playing bluray discs from the Samsung player to the Vizio TV??