Samsung 4K UHD Blu-ray Player UBD-K8500

[rroeder]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

What happens if I forget resolution set on 1080p in the player and the next day I play a UHD disc at 1080p?

I think they play fine at 1080p thought I read some are doing that to get better audio but they don't have 4K

If you like your player upscaling probably best to just keep it at Auto tho, I am curious tho if the player upscaling affects the 3D signal at all. I would switch back and forth myself.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by rroeder

I think they play fine at 1080p thought I read some are doing that to get better audio but they don't have 4K

If you like your player upscaling probably best to just keep it at Auto tho, I am curious tho if the player upscaling affects the 3D signal at all. I would switch back and forth myself.

So, if I can play both HD and UHD discs with resolution set on 1080p, what is the point of setting resolution on 2160p ever?
It seems like 1080p resolution will work just fine like Auto does, so that we wont have to keep changing resolution everytime we go from HD to UHD and back

[rroeder]

To get the better picture of course, 2160 vs 1080, HDR and all

[RockyIII]

So if I play my favorite UHD movie with settings on 2160, Auto, or 1080, I will get a better or worse picture quality? I think the player will just default to whatever you feed it, no more no less

[waff]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

So if I play my favorite UHD movie with settings on 2160, Auto, or 1080, I will get a better or worse picture quality? I think the player will just default to whatever you feed it, no more no less

This is definitely discussed somewhere else in this thread, but it sounds like the only reason for this is that BDs will maintain 1080p and let the TV upscale them. I have no idea what will happen if you play a UHD with the 1080p setting... dare I fear play it in 1080p

[HeatEquation]

By the way, apparently Samsung was telling people at CES 2017 that certain 4K players currently available on the market could be firmware updated to support HDR10+. It's reasonable to assume that they were referring to their only available player on the market at the time - the K8500. Would be interesting to see if this player does receive HDR10+ support. It would also imply that Samsung plan to firmware update their TVs to support dynamic metadata through HDMI.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by waff

dare I fear play it in 1080p

I bet it will play in HDR jsut like it does in Auto or in 2160. The only time it will play a UHD disc in 1080 is when and only when the 'display' is a 1080 only display. But as long as this is hooked up to a HDR display it will output in HDR no matter what resolution you set.
Only the Oppo 203 has the capability to strip HDR on a HDR display

[rroeder]

No it will play at resolution you choose, you don't want 1080p when your playing a UHD on your high end 4K OLED right?

Your missing my point tho, I would keep at Auto if you don't want to F with it but it *might* be messing with 3D signal cause it usually upscales at that setting. Check your display info next time you play 3D to see what it says it should be 1080/24p

[aaronwt2065]

Originally Posted by HeatEquation

By the way, apparently Samsung was telling people at CES 2017 that certain 4K players currently available on the market could be firmware updated to support HDR10+. It's reasonable to assume that they were referring to their only available player on the market at the time - the K8500. Would be interesting to see if this player does receive HDR10+ support. It would also imply that Samsung plan to firmware update their TVs to support dynamic metadata through HDMI.

Only their 2016 and later TVs.

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[chip75]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

So if I play my favorite UHD movie with settings on 2160, Auto, or 1080, I will get a better or worse picture quality? I think the player will just default to whatever you feed it, no more no less

2160p* will display everything from DVDs to UHD BDs at 2160p. Anything below 2160p will be upscaled by the device.
Auto* should display video at the maximum capabilities that the display can handle.
1080p output resolution will output everything from DVDs to UHD BDs at 1080p. If the display is capable of higher resolutions then it will upscale to it's native resolution.

*The are a few TVs that for some reason don't like been set on Auto, so you have to force the higher resolution. There are also TVs that will go out of range when player's are forced into a higher resolution (but that's usually TVs lower than 1080p, UHD BD players shouldn't go out of range on 1080p sets as they get forced to display 1080p as they're not HDCP 2.2 compatible).

To get the best from your UHD BDs you want 2160p or Auto, but just check that Auto is pumping out 2160p and not anything else.

Some player's also have an Original Resolution option, so DVDs, BDs and UHD BDs get outputted to the TV and that will upscale them when necessary. That option is useful when your TV has better scaling than your player.

[HeatEquation]

Originally Posted by aaronwt2065

Only their 2016 and later TVs.

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I'm aware of that. I was referring to the possibility of the K8500 receiving support as well, in addition to the 2016 and later TVs being firmware updated to support dynamic metadata over HDMI. It seems like a realistic possibility.

[rroeder]

Originally Posted by chip75

2160p* will display everything from DVDs to UHD BDs at 2160p. Anything below 2160p will be upscaled by the device.
Auto* should display video at the maximum capabilities that the display can handle.
1080p output resolution will output everything from DVDs to UHD BDs at 1080p. If the display is capable of higher resolutions then it will upscale to it's native resolution.

*The are a few TVs that for some reason don't like been set on Auto, so you have to force the higher resolution. There are also TVs that will go out of range when player's are forced into a higher resolution (but that's usually TVs lower than 1080p, UHD BD players shouldn't go out of range on 1080p sets as they get forced to display 1080p as they're not HDCP 2.2 compatible).

To get the best from your UHD BDs you want 2160p or Auto, but just check that Auto is pumping out 2160p and not anything else.

Some player's also have an Original Resolution option, so DVDs, BDs and UHD BDs get outputted to the TV and that will upscale them when necessary. That option is useful when your TV has better scaling than your player.

What about 3D signal?, if player is set to Auto will it do any upscaling or just send it as 1080p signal?

[waff]

Originally Posted by rroeder

What about 3D signal?, if player is set to Auto will it do any upscaling or just send it as 1080p signal?

It "upscales" in the sense that it fills your 4K monitor. It does not present the video at a higher resolution, still just 1080p.

[aaronwt2065]

Originally Posted by waff

It "upscales" in the sense that it fills your 4K monitor. It does not present the video at a higher resolution, still just 1080p.

The TV takes care of it. The TV is receiving a 1080P 3D signal. And processes it appropriately.

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[Croweyes1121]

I'm having a major lip sync issue with this player, but ONLY streaming via my media server. And the only thing that helps AT ALL is my a/v delay setting on my Onkyo 605. Changing the delay on the player itself has absolutely no effect, even at 250ms. The problem is, the Onkyo only delays to 100ms, and that's STILL not quite enough. Any help?

Blu-rays are absolutely in sync, no matter what I have the player delay set for. It appears to have no effect whatsoever.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by chip75

2160p* will display everything from DVDs to UHD BDs at 2160p. Anything below 2160p will be upscaled by the device.
Auto* should display video at the maximum capabilities that the display can handle.
1080p output resolution will output everything from DVDs to UHD BDs at 1080p. If the display is capable of higher resolutions then it will upscale to it's native resolution.

*The are a few TVs that for some reason don't like been set on Auto, so you have to force the higher resolution. There are also TVs that will go out of range when player's are forced into a higher resolution (but that's usually TVs lower than 1080p, UHD BD players shouldn't go out of range on 1080p sets as they get forced to display 1080p as they're not HDCP 2.2 compatible).

To get the best from your UHD BDs you want 2160p or Auto, but just check that Auto is pumping out 2160p and not anything else.

Some player's also have an Original Resolution option, so DVDs, BDs and UHD BDs get outputted to the TV and that will upscale them when necessary. That option is useful when your TV has better scaling than your player.

So in essence, if your TV has maximum capability of 2160 (like in the case of my 4K Oled TV), it really shouldn't matter whether I select Auto, 1080, or 2160.... UHDs will be displayed in 2160 and lower resolution titles will be upscaled.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

So in essence, if your TV has maximum capability of 2160 (like in the case of my 4K Oled TV), it really shouldn't matter whether I select Auto, 1080, or 2160.... UHDs will be displayed in 2160 and lower resolution titles will be upscaled.

No, if you select 1080p your player will output your UHD BDs mastered in 2160p in 1080p and your TV will upscale to it's native resolution. So you won't get any of the benefits of the increased resolution of the format. You need to select Auto or 2160p and double-check that your player is outputting the UHD BDs at 2160p (I don't think there would be any issues with the LG with Auto).

Put it this way if you have a spare 1080p set around and set the BD player to output 480p instead of Auto or 1080p the quality isn't going to be anywhere near BD quality. Even after the TV upscales to its native 1080p.

To get the most of your UHD BDs you want to have the player output at 2160p (which in most cases Auto will do) and you'll want your TV to take advantage of the HDR and wider colour gamut on the discs.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by chip75

No, if you select 1080p your player will output your UHD BDs mastered in 2160p in 1080p and your TV will upscale to it's native resolution. So you won't get any of the benefits of the increased resolution of the format. You need to select Auto or 2160p and double-check that your player is outputting the UHD BDs at 2160p (I don't think there would be any issues with the LG with Auto).

Put it this way if you have a spare 1080p set around and set the BD player to output 480p instead of Auto or 1080p the quality isn't going to be anywhere near BD quality. Even after the TV upscales to its native 1080p.

To get the most of your UHD BDs you want to have the player output at 2160p (which in most cases Auto will do) and you'll want your TV to take advantage of the HDR and wider colour gamut on the discs.

Interesting because when I once left resolution at 1080p and plyed a UHD player the HDR badge still popped up on the screen...So was I watching in 1080 with HDR??

[rroeder]

You need a diff player with Native or original resolution option like Chip75 mentioned, then whatever you pop in the player will pick the right resolution.

Since the Auto option selects native 3D signal just use that, but I def prefer 1080p for blurays on my setup

[Croweyes1121]

Originally Posted by Croweyes1121

I'm having a major lip sync issue with this player, but ONLY streaming via my media server. And the only thing that helps AT ALL is my a/v delay setting on my Onkyo 605. Changing the delay on the player itself has absolutely no effect, even at 250ms. The problem is, the Onkyo only delays to 100ms, and that's STILL not quite enough. Any help?

Blu-rays are absolutely in sync, no matter what I have the player delay set for. It appears to have no effect whatsoever.

Anyone?