Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[JayTL]

I see they're trying to get more money out to small businesses, I wonder if another stimulus check could be coming down the road too

I think it's really dumb to try to re-open things like bowling alleys & movie theaters, but I can see the need for salons to open up (I'm assuming the workers and clients will have to wear masks/do their diligence to stay safe)

[Batman1980]

I think they should re-open liquor stores, at least to drive-through purchases and figure out a way to get bars more income.

[JayTL]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

I think they should re-open liquor stores, at least to drive-through purchases and figure out a way to get bars more income.

So in CT, Liquor stores are open, and bars you can order take-out (including drinks). I doubt that's working very well for them, but it is an option

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by JayTL

I see they're trying to get more money out to small businesses, I wonder if another stimulus check could be coming down the road too

It’s likely there will be. After this current package passes, the next one will probably be to bail out oil companies and other things, which could include another round of checks.

[JayTL]

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

It’s likely there will be. After this current package passes, the next one will probably be to bail out oil companies and other things, which could include another round of checks.

I'm almost not sure, with how politics seems to be. By the time they can get the next stimulus passed, half the country will be (foolishly) back to work

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Not required outside if you can maintain a 6 foot distance at all times. Of course in dense areas like Manhattan it would probably be impossible to go outside without a mask for more than 30 seconds without violating the 6 foot rule. So joggers in Central park will have to wear a mask now. I'll bet the regulars there are going to love that.

Not really. Manhattan is still a ghost town. You can stand in the middle of practically any avenue during the day for several minutes before you see a car approach. Long stretches of empty street in every direction. It's quite eerie. Plenty of joggers, though - none wearing any kind of protection. Whenever I see one coming towards me I cross to the other side. I don't want anyone's germs getting into my airspace while these people huff and puff at their leisure. Also, many areas in the city where the homeless outnumber everyone else. Why is no one requiring them to wear masks?

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by JayTL

I'm almost not sure, with how politics seems to be. By the time they can get the next stimulus passed, half the country will be (foolishly) back to work

Fortunately getting back to work is up to people who have to look at the big picture, which includes the economy. And not those thinking of the implications of just one or the other. It's going to be a balancing act for quite some time.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by JayTL

So in CT, Liquor stores are open, and bars you can order take-out (including drinks). I doubt that's working very well for them, but it is an option

you cant just order liquor though. has to be purchased with food. also, you cant just go an order a mixed drink, all must be in sealed containers.

[JayTL]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

you cant just order liquor though. has to be purchased with food. also, you cant just go an order a mixed drink, all must be in sealed containers.

I'm not sure, to be honest. I know of a couple local places circumventing the rules (allowing you to "sit and have a drink" while you wait for your food), but the second part is false.. you can order a mixed drink to go. In some type of canister they seal for you.

Originally Posted by bruceames

Fortunately getting back to work is up to people who have to look at the big picture, which includes the economy. And not those thinking of the implications of just one or the other. It's going to be a balancing act for quite some time.

Eh, in my experience, going back to work is decided by corporate people who can still work from home lol

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

Not really. Manhattan is still a ghost town. You can stand in the middle of practically any avenue during the day for several minutes before you see a car approach. Long stretches of empty street in every direction. It's quite eerie. Plenty of joggers, though - none wearing any kind of protection. Whenever I see one coming towards me I cross to the other side. I don't want anyone's germs getting into my airspace while these people huff and puff at their leisure. Also, many areas in the city where the homeless outnumber everyone else. Why is no one requiring them to wear masks?

Yeah didn't consider that. If I was a jogger there then I would probably just use a face covering that I would pull down whenever I encountered others and not wear over my face and nose all the time. At work I use an N95 mask whenever I'm in the shop because of the sawdust, and I just wear the mask on my forehead most of the time and pull it down whenever I create excessive sawdust (or someone else does).

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by JayTL

Eh, in my experience, going back to work is decided by corporate people who can still work from home lol

I meant people like governors and government officials, who are responsible for the economy as well. I'm not a Gavin Newson fan, but I think he has handled the crisis well and I like his outline and plan of attack on getting people back to work in stages. Most other places will do the same, being gradual about it and pulling back when it turn out to be too much too soon.

[chip75]

Our neighbours opposite have decided to place a table and chairs at the bottom of our drive (it's a communal drive) and there are about eight people, adults and kids sitting around having a "great" time, drinking, colouring in.

It basically means we're trapped, we can't put our rubbish out and can't drive out in an emergency if we needed to. A delivery just came and the guy had to walk right past them, he was not a happy camper. I wouldn't have even bothered.

These are the clowns that are clapping for the NHS with their pots and pans at 8 o'clock. Hypocritical passive-aggressive bullshit.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by JayTL

I'm not sure, to be honest. I know of a couple local places circumventing the rules (allowing you to "sit and have a drink" while you wait for your food), but the second part is false.. you can order a mixed drink to go. In some type of canister they seal for you.

l

not sure if the rule has changed but this is what it was:

"The implementation order allows restaurants and other liquor permittees to sell sealed alcoholic beverages in the manufacturers’ containers for off-premise consumption during regular liquor store hours."

"The order does not allow restaurants to sell cocktails made in house, said Lora Rae Anderson, director of communications for the Department of Consumer Protection. It also does not allow restaurants to deliver alcohol. "

http://www.courant.com/coronavirus/h...3rm-story.html

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by chip75

Our neighbours opposite have decided to place a table and chairs at the bottom of our drive (it's a communal drive) and there are about eight people, adults and kids sitting around having a "great" time, drinking, colouring in.

It basically means we're trapped, we can't put our rubbish out and can't drive out in an emergency if we needed to. A delivery just came and the guy had to walk right past them, he was not a happy camper. I wouldn't have even bothered.

These are the clowns that are clapping for the NHS with their pots and pans at 8 o'clock. Hypocritical passive-aggressive bullshit.

Damn that's terrible. Is there anywhere else they could move the table, or is there another place you could possibly park your car?

[JayTL]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

not sure if the rule has changed but this is what it was:

"The implementation order allows restaurants and other liquor permittees to sell sealed alcoholic beverages in the manufacturers’ containers for off-premise consumption during regular liquor store hours."

"The order does not allow restaurants to sell cocktails made in house, said Lora Rae Anderson, director of communications for the Department of Consumer Protection. It also does not allow restaurants to deliver alcohol. "

http://www.courant.com/coronavirus/h...3rm-story.html

The only thing I can tell you is that a few restaurants and bars are breaking those rules lol

[Moe Szyslak]

Is there a consensus set of scientific metrics and guidelines out there?

Something like, "Testing capacity should be at X level in an area before gradual reopening. Confirmed cases should should then dip below X number before loosening restrictions even further" yada yada.

I realize that wasn't a very intelligent way of asking my question, but hopefully someone understands what I'm getting at.

[JayTL]

Originally Posted by Moe Szyslak

Is there a consensus set of scientific metrics and guidelines out there?

Something like, "Testing capacity should be at X level in an area before gradual reopening. Confirmed cases should should then dip below X number before loosening restrictions even further" yada yada.

I realize that wasn't a very intelligent way of asking my question, but hopefully someone understands what I'm getting at.

Doesn't seem like it. CT has some guidelines, but I'm sure they differ from other states

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by JayTL

The only thing I can tell you is that a few restaurants and bars are breaking those rules lol

im sure some are. not really sure why someone couldnt just make a drink at home though.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Moe Szyslak

Is there a consensus set of scientific metrics and guidelines out there?

Something like, "Testing capacity should be at X level in an area before gradual reopening. Confirmed cases should should then dip below X number before loosening restrictions even further" yada yada.

I realize that wasn't a very intelligent way of asking my question, but hopefully someone understands what I'm getting at.

California governor Newsom outlined a 6 point plan of what need to take place before things can reopen again. Basically the first thing is that the curve not only needs to be flattened, but have a downward trajectory that is sustained for at least two weeks.

Later on higher risk business can reopen if testing capacity increases to a certain level. Ideally it would be something like a saliva test that can accurately tell in seconds whether you have it or not. That would make even large gatherings such as concerts and sporting events possible. But don't know if such a test is feasible or not.

But there will be some trial and error of course. That's why it was mentioned that there will be some back and forth of restrictions removed and reinstated whenever it causes cases to jump too much.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Moe Szyslak

Is there a consensus set of scientific metrics and guidelines out there?

Something like, "Testing capacity should be at X level in an area before gradual reopening. Confirmed cases should should then dip below X number before loosening restrictions even further" yada yada.

I realize that wasn't a very intelligent way of asking my question, but hopefully someone understands what I'm getting at.

This doesn't specifically answer your question, but NYC put up a page with goals for testing, among other areas:

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-goals.page