Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[veritas]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

What a ridiculous thing to say. Of course it's going to be thoroughly tested for safety and efficacy. That's why the timetable for a vaccine is so far out. Part of the reason it takes 18-24 months is because most of that time is studying the effects on humans through various clinical trials...

Getting a vaccine made and ready in under 2 years is a pipe dream. If they do make a vaccine in under 2 years then ya they cut a lot of corners. Its also particularly dangerous to cut corners with a corona virus given the fact that when they attempted to make a vaccine for sars the vaccine actually increased the viruses mortality rate.

Their are decent odds that some of the early people who get this vaccine that they think is safe are more like guinea pigs because they have to rush testing to get the vaccine out fast without looking at longer term effects.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Monterey Jack

I will never be married. I will never have sex. I will never kiss a girl. The world ended before I could do any of that.

Originally Posted by jonmoz

You don't know how lucky you are fella, all that stuff only leads to issues.

Yeah, sex is overrated. It's the main reason why the population is dense and why the pandemic got this bad. More people need to abstain from sex. Who needs it anyway?

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Same thing with Air Canada ...

▪ https://globalnews.ca/news/6915723/e...ight-covid-19/

Planes are the worst environment to contact Coronavirus. And people are sitting six inches of each other even touching shoulders (larger folks)! ...Class action lawsuits?

lawsuit lol? did someone make these people fly?

Originally Posted by Monterey Jack

There is NOTHING that would get me on an airplane right now.

million bucks and im in actually, id likely do it for much less

[Batman1980]

Yeah you choose to make the questionable decision to get on a full plane, it's not like the airline held a gun to your head and forced you to get on as a hostage.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Yeah, sex is overrated.

Aren't you a virgin?

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Yeah, sex is overrated. It's the main reason why the population is dense and why the pandemic got this bad. More people need to abstain from sex. Who needs it anyway?

[AFFanAttic]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

People forget - 2 months ago, the country was functioning. Two months ago today was my last day but I would look at March 13th as the day the shit hit the fan, at least here in NYC.

March 13 is precisely the day things felt very different to me here in Texas. It wasn't even one particular announcement or news item, but just the mood and energy at first only driving through downtown, and then finding out people were rushing to grocery stores.
It was just crazy how that day felt like there was a strong shift in the atmosphere. Sort of ominous and like an inevitable change just suddenly clicked in. But not as scary as maybe that sounds.

[AeroK]

The plane is the least of my worries. The TSA checkpoints on the other hand, I hope they find a better way to process passengers’ belongings through the x-ray. I always hate having to put my belongings in the same trays where thousands before me placed their nasty, filthy shoes.

[meremortal]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

People forget - 2 months ago, the country was functioning. Two months ago today was my last day but I would look at March 13th as the day the shit hit the fan, at least here in NYC.

That sounds about right. Around the middle of March people were still not allowed to locally enter stores with a mask since there are really old mask laws in place and they weren't yet recommended. Around the last week of March gloves started disappearing from shelves but I can't recall masks being worn in public until April and there was still a lot of debate of their efficacy even then. Masks and hand sanitizer seemed to be the first to sell out on a massive scale even though I don't recall seeing them on many people in March. For pretty much all of March until a time in April it seemed the general public only thought you'd really be at risk by touching stuff. Mask wearing probably peaked the final week of April around here and is probably around half of what it was then, sadly, and it's not uncommon to walk in store stores like auto supply or hardware where there there may not be anyone other than perhaps an employee wearing one and even then I've seen employees with their masks pulled all the way down or not wearing them all.

[AeroK]

Originally Posted by AFFanAttic

March 13 is precisely the day things felt very different to me here in Texas. It wasn't even one particular announcement or news item, but just the mood and energy at first only driving through downtown, and then finding out people were rushing to grocery stores.
It was just crazy how that day felt like there was a strong shift in the atmosphere. Sort of ominous and like an inevitable change just suddenly clicked in. But not as scary as maybe that sounds.

I noticed a big shift on 3/11 in Dallas shortly after the Europe travel ban and the cancelation of the NBA season. I think it was the same evening. I took my wife to work at 9pm and the traffic was worse than usual. I had to buy something at the grocery store and saw people scrambling like it was Black Friday. Then I saw people at the pumps filling extra tanks of gas for generators. Kind of felt like when there’s a hurricane in the gulf but worse.

[meremortal]

March 11 may be around the first day I started having some concerns as well. It was the last day we saw a movie in the theater and it was packed. People were sneezing and coughing and rows were packed full of people. But of course the tv doctors were saying at the time to not buy into the media's panic and were shrugging it off as being even less worrisome than the regular flu season. And then a few days later a lot of stuff started shutting down, but there were also plenty of businesses who refused to set any restrictions or close until they were forced to do so. And of course all of those businesses posted a message online saying something like "For the safety of our employees and customers, we've decided to temporarily close.' This was predictably the day before state or county orders were to go in place and yet they pretended like it was their brilliant idea to shut down for everyone's health and safety.

[IndyMLVC]

What a mess. FINALLY got the antibody test results.
CityMD had them on the 2nd but I had to call Quest labs to finally get them released.

I'm Negative.

Atm, I know 8 people including me who went for the antibody test: 5 were negative and 3 were positive. The 3 that were positive were REALLY sick and 1 was officially diagnosed with an actual test.

But, in the end, it doesn't mean much of anything at all. It doesn't even mean I haven't had it.
A friend of a friend tested positive - had the test done when she was extremely sick and it came back positive. She went for the antibody test and it came back negative. So....yeah. These tests are pretty unreliable.

[Chaotic]

My brothers roommate in nyc had a 104 degree fever last month but tested negative for the virus and antibodies.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

My brothers roommate in nyc had a 104 degree fever last month but tested negative for the virus and antibodies.

The reasons I went were A) I was curious and it was free and B) I was really sick for 4-5 days at the end of Feb/begin of March. Thought that might have been it.

I guess, theoretically, it wasn't.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Aren't you a virgin?

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

Wow, certainly not the replies I thought I was going to get. I was expecting something like, "Yes, MrHT. You are right! Sex is most certainly overrated!"

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

People forget - 2 months ago, the country was functioning. Two months ago today was my last day but I would look at March 13th as the day the shit hit the fan, at least here in NYC.

Mar 13 is the day I started working from home...so that's what I consider as the 'start' of this.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by JayTL

God, I just hate the phrase "social distancing"

I hate the phrase 'we're all in this together'...

[LordoftheRings]

Couple great articles about masks ...

• https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...new-study-says

• https://www.businessinsider.com/peop...andemic-2020-5

* As for flying on jammed packed airplanes (sardines cans), in my opinion this is a bad decision.
It's the highest risk you can take during a pandemic, and you risk other's lives.
The heat detectors they use @ the airports before you enter and board the planes how effective they are with people infected with the virus but without showing any temperature sign?

In Quebec, Canada, they want to reopen businesses and schools when they are right in the middle of health emergency @ the highest in all Canada. I don't get it...are Quebecois people smarter than the rest of the country? Are they more obedient? ...More disciplined?

Air Canada; are they into being open for business or risking more lives or what's the matter with that company?

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Peter Ben Embarek

In a press briefing, WHO food safety and animal diseases expert Peter Ben Embarek said live animal markets are critical to providing food and livelihoods for millions of people globally and that authorities should focus on improving them rather than outlawing them — even though they can sometimes spark epidemics in humans.

WHO do themselves no favors with this language. They know full well that there's a chance they caused a Worldwide Pandemic. It only makes conspiracy fanciers more jittery (the Chinese minister to the UK used "epidemic" in a interview as well).

There's a huge difference between a live market in rural Wales or Texas and the dumpster fires we've seen reports on.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Couple great articles about masks ...

• https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...new-study-says

• https://www.businessinsider.com/peop...andemic-2020-5

* As for flying on jammed packed airplanes (sardines cans), in my opinion this is a bad decision.
It's the highest risk you can take during a pandemic, and you risk other's lives.
The heat detectors they use @ the airports before you enter and board the planes how effective they are with people infected with the virus but without showing any temperature sign?

In Quebec, Canada, they want to reopen businesses and schools when they are right in the middle of health emergency @ the highest in all Canada. I don't get it...are Quebecois people smarter than the rest of the country? Are they more obedient? ...More disciplined?

Air Canada; are they into being open for business or risking more lives or what's the matter with that company?

I think they just need to make it a requirement to walk into any place of business until the numbers drop. I don't agree with the overall efficacy of them but I also think if some people are going to wear them, everyone should wear them. The people who don't wear them in public just look selfish.