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Old 05-13-2020, 01:09 AM   #8201
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Speaking of Sonic, I went there today. Yum.
 
Old 05-13-2020, 01:12 AM   #8202
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Honestly, i don't like to get into "conspiracy theories" and i don't want to be associated with actual quacks but something awful stinks with this whole COVID-19 event and what's happening right now and what will happen in the near and distant future.

The one thing i almost know for certain is that the richest and wealthy are about to benefit from this whole event more than the 2008 financial crisis when all is said and done. The poor are going to be hit very hard and left between a rock and a hard place yet the media and governments will be doing their best to spin this as positively as possible and placate the masses being screwed over.
 
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If they think the working classes are being placated LOL. It's quite obvious who this is hitting the hardest and will continue to hit the hardest.
 
Old 05-13-2020, 01:16 AM   #8204
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Honestly, i don't like to get into "conspiracy theories" and i don't want to be associated with actual quacks but something awful stinks with this whole COVID-19 event and what's happening right now and what will happen in the near and distant future.

The one thing i almost know for certain is that the richest and wealthy are about to benefit from this whole event more than the 2008 financial crisis when all is said and done. The poor are going to be hit very hard and left between a rock and a hard place yet the media and governments will be doing their best to spin this as positively as possible and placate the masses being screwed over.
I think this just happens because the opportunity is there. Not that it required planning.
 
Old 05-13-2020, 01:28 AM   #8205
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Deadline - Coronavirus Confusion: LA Mayor Tries To Douse “Panic” Over Likely Stay-At-Home Order Extension Remarks By County Health Official

Guess Los Angeles officials get to decide which businesses open up and which stay shuttered. The plan is to stagger everything in phases until the end of July. 5 or 6 months of lockdown. What can go wrong with that?

Phases for everyone, comrades!

I'm sure the banksters (gangsters) who are collecting mortgage payments from people, landlords, and REITs will just waive 6 months of payments. (They don't, there is temporary halt to a maximum of 6 months, but they just tack on the accumulated interest into a balloon payment.)
 
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Malls have been dying for decades. Before coronavirus you could go to the mall or movie theatres or a restaurant on weekday/night and it would be dead.
One thing that I always hated about malls is how there's almost no diversity of stores. It's like 95% clothes stores. Don't get me wrong, I like clothes and all, but I'd like to shop for other things too.
 
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I prefer clothing shopping online, especially since online retailers tend to have a better selection.
 
Old 05-13-2020, 01:44 AM   #8208
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Deadline - Coronavirus Confusion: LA Mayor Tries To Douse “Panic” Over Likely Stay-At-Home Order Extension Remarks By County Health Official

Guess Los Angeles officials get to decide which businesses open up and which stay shuttered. The plan is to stagger everything in phases until the end of July. 5 or 6 months of lockdown. What can go wrong with that?

Phases for everyone, comrades!

I'm sure the banksters (gangsters) who are collecting mortgage payments from people, landlords, and REITs will just waive 6 months of payments. (They don't, there is temporary halt to a maximum of 6 months, but they just tack on the accumulated interest into a balloon payment.)
Quite a bit of spin in that article, but that's besides the point. I've heard that some businesses think they don't have to pay back rent during a government ordered shutdown. Not sure if true, but landlords should cut them some slack and maybe charge half rent or something if the law is on their side.

I thought it was ridiculous to say that businesses will reopen during the shutdown but we want you to stay home anyway. Glad it was just miscommunication.
 
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I think this just happens because the opportunity is there. Not that it required planning.
Yet it all works out so nice and conveniently too everytime. The rich getting richer and poor getting poorer with reduced social mobility at almost every turn of the cycle. We had McDonalds etc. asking for rent reductions. We're talking about multi billion dollar multinationals asking for bailouts.

Recipients of the bailouts going to those same conglomerates and so on rather than actual mom & pop stores in need of the money. Sure, it could all be random and they're just taking advantage of the vast money they had saved up, but when governments let these scumbags be first in line for financial aid and help, but let the little man rot, i know there's a rotten collusion going on.
 
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One thing that I always hated about malls is how there's almost no diversity of stores. It's like 95% clothes stores. Don't get me wrong, I like clothes and all, but I'd like to shop for other things too.
And 80% of those 95% of clothes stores, is clothes stores for women only. Yikes. There's only like 3-5 stores with men's clothing.. and so everyone in town will be buying there.. so you have a great chance of running into someone wearing the same outfit.
 
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One thing that I always hated about malls is how there's almost no diversity of stores. It's like 95% clothes stores. Don't get me wrong, I like clothes and all, but I'd like to shop for other things too.
10-20 years ago there would be 4-5 stores that would interest me, so I would go with my wife to a few of her favorite stores (clothing) and then it would be my turn. But now it seems 80% of the stores sell women's clothing so I have no interest in going there anymore. Even Sears is gone.
 
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Quite a bit of spin in that article, but that's besides the point. I've heard that some businesses think they don't have to pay back rent during a government ordered shutdown. Not sure if true, but landlords should cut them some slack and maybe charge half rent or something if the law is on their side.

I thought it was ridiculous to say that businesses will reopen during the shutdown but we want you to stay home anyway. Glad it was just miscommunication.
I saw some spin words in the article, but its more trying to pin down what Eric Garcetti actually meant in the very brief interview because it was short on specifics and Jake Tapper threw softballs. Full interview here: cnn

Way more than half of this metropolitan area is non-essential. LA is less dependent on entertainment than before, but we're not exactly manufacturing things here - we're levered on services.

Also one minor point of contention (not even contention, just a heads up), a mom n pop landlord may give people a break on rent. A commercial or residential REIT likely will not.
 
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COVID-19 found to be spread through eyes and is 100 times more infectious than SARS



https://www.theladders.com/career-ad...ious-than-sars
 
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It's just saying that Covid-19 is almost 100 times more infectious overall, and that you can get it through the eyes. Not any new discovery here.

Although you can get it through the eyes, it's rather uncommon compared to getting it through your respiratory system.
 
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Yet it all works out so nice and conveniently too everytime. The rich getting richer and poor getting poorer with reduced social mobility at almost every turn of the cycle. We had McDonalds etc. asking for rent reductions. We're talking about multi billion dollar multinationals asking for bailouts.

Recipients of the bailouts going to those same conglomerates and so on rather than actual mom & pop stores in need of the money. Sure, it could all be random and they're just taking advantage of the vast money they had saved up, but when governments let these scumbags be first in line for financial aid and help, but let the little man rot, i know there's a rotten collusion going on.
It's neither random, nor planned in my opinion. It's just a-holes being a-holes, taking advantage of a bad situation. It's not a conspiracy, it's just good old-fashioned greed. And some of these a-holes got caught. That's gotta be real good for one's reputation.
 
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I saw some spin words in the article, but its more trying to pin down what Eric Garcetti actually meant in the very brief interview because it was short on specifics and Jake Tapper threw softballs. Full interview here: cnn

Way more than half of this metropolitan area is non-essential. LA is less dependent on entertainment than before, but we're not exactly manufacturing things here - we're levered on services.

Also one minor point of contention (not even contention, just a heads up), a mom n pop landlord may give people a break on rent. A commercial or residential REIT likely will not.
I don't know. I think with lots of businesses going under and those remaining struggling to survive, it'll become a renter's market and commercial landlord will be forced to make compromises on back rent to keep as many tenants as they can.
 
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi unveiled a more than $3 trillion coronavirus aid package Tuesday, a sweeping effort with $1 trillion for states and cities, “hazard pay” for essential workers and a new round of cash payments to individuals.

The House is expected to vote on the packageas soon as Friday. But Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has said there is no “urgency.” The Senate will wait until after Memorial Day to consider options.

“We must think big, for the people, now,” Pelosi said from the speaker’s office at the Capitol.

“Not acting is the most expensive course,” she said.

Lines drawn, the latest pandemic response from Congress will test the House and Senate — and President Donald Trump — as Washington navigates the extraordinary crisis with the nation’s health and economic securityat stake.

The Democrats’ Heroes Act is built around nearly $1 trillion for states, cities and tribal governments to avert layoffs, focused chiefly on $375 billion for smaller suburban and rural municipalities largely left out of earlier bills.

The bill will offer a fresh round of $1,200 direct cash aid to individuals, increased to up to $6,000 per household, and launches a $175 billion housing assistance fund to help pay rents and mortgages. There is $75 billion more for virus testing.

It would continue, through January, the $600-per-week boost to unemployment benefits. It adds a 15% increase for food stamps, new subsidies for laid-off workers to pay health insurance premiums under a COBRA law and a special “Obamacare” sign-up period. For businesses, it provides an employee retention tax credit.

There’s $200 billion in “hazard pay” for essential workers on the front lines of the crisis.

Pelosi drew on U.S. history — and poetry — to suggest “no man is an island” as she called on Americans to respond to the crisis with a strategy of science, virus testingand empathy.

“There are those who said, ‘Let’s just pause,’” she said. “Hunger doesn’t take a pause. Rent doesn’t take a pause. Bills don’t take a pause.”

But the 1,800-page package is heading straight into a Senate roadblock.

Republicans are wary of another round of aid and McConnell declared the Democratic proposal a grab bag of “pet priorities.” He said Tuesday it is not something that “deals with reality.”

House Republicans also took a pass. “I can’t believe that that would be real,” said Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz., leader of the hard-right House Freedom Caucus, said in an interview.

This would be the fifth coronavirus package. It’s a starkly partisan offering with no real input from Republicans, who prefer to assess the impact of earlier expenditures before approving more.

But the political peril of doing nothing during an election year could prove challenging for Congress and the White House. As states experience flareups of virus outbreaks, and more than 30 million Americans remain unemployed in the shutdown, the near-term health and economic outlook remains daunting.

The Senate Democratic leader, Chuck Schumer of New York, warned that Trump and Republicans risk the same path as Herbert Hoover, the former president roundly criticized for failing to act to stem the Great Depression.

“What is it going to take for Mitch McConnell to wake up and see the American people need help, and they need it now?” Schumer said.

The latest package extends some provisions from previous aid packages, and adds new ones.

There is $25 billion for the U.S. Postal Service. There is help for the 2020 Census, including the bureau’s request to delay deadlines for turning over apportionment and redistricting data. For the November election, the bill provides $3.6 billion to help local officials prepare for the challenges of voting during the pandemic.

The popular Payroll Protection Program, which has been boosted in past bills, would see another $10 billion to ensure under-served businesses and nonprofit organizations have access to grants through a disaster loan program.

For hospitals and other health care providers, there’s another $100 billion infusion to help cover costs and additional help for hospitals serving low-income communities.

There’s another $600 million in funding to tackle the issue of rapid spread of the virus in state and federal prisons, along with $600 million in help to local police departments for salaries and equipment

McConnell said he is working with the White House on next steps. His priority is to ensure any new package includes liability protections for health care providers and businesses that are reopening. Trump is expected to meet Tuesday with a group of Senate Republicans.

“I don’t think we have yet felt the urgency of acting immediately,” McConnell told reporters earlier this week at the Capitol.

As states weigh the health risks of re-opening, McConnell said Tuesday the nation needs to find a “middle ground between total lockdown and total normalcy.”

Top GOP senators flatly rejected the House bill. “What Nancy Pelosi is proposing will never pass the Senate,” said Sen. John Barrasso of Wyoming, the third-ranking Republican.

The Senate recently reopened its side of the Capitol while the House remains largely shuttered due to the health concerns.

Senators have been in session since last week, voting on Trump’s nominees for judicial and executive branch positions and other issues. The Senate majority, the 53-member Senate Republican conference, is meeting for its regular luncheons most days, spread out three to a table for social distance. Democrats are convening by phone. Many senators, but not all, are wearing masks.

At least a dozen Capitol police officers and other staff have tested positive for the virus, and at least one senator, Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, is in isolation at home after exposure from a staff member who tested positive. Other lawmakers have cycled in and out of quarantine.

Source - KRQE.com
 
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It's just saying that Covid-19 is almost 100 times more infectious overall, and that you can get it through the eyes. Not any new discovery here.

Although you can get it through the eyes, it's rather uncommon compared to getting it through your respiratory system.
Very true; we all knew that already...transmitted through the eyes.
And it has to be extremely rare; that too we already knew. Nothing new, no new discovery here.
Wearing glasses or a protective plexiglass shield seems to be an added protective layer for nurses and doctors who treat Coronavirus patients.
..Eye protection.

We all try to uncover more each and every day; just like the pandemic experts are learning as we go ...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/12/healt...ion/index.html

We also all know that it's better to close the lid before flushing the toilet.

* Kids ...
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/investiga...lness/2411571/

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Old 05-13-2020, 04:40 AM   #8219
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don't understand logic my dad finally get me a mask today heath department fair grounds and stil i cannot go anywhere yet saying something about maybe sat heck might as well wait tues really what's the point getting me a mask and not taking me inside anywhere like walmart or game exchange its crap

granted low immune system don't have good lungs but really what's point get a mask and I cannot do nothing still not right

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Old 05-13-2020, 05:56 AM   #8220
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I was standing in line at Walmart to enter and a guy near the entrance was arguing very loudly with the employee about having to wait in line to buy a car battery and needing to wait in line again to do the core exchange. No punches were thrown and only yelling.

Coronavirus drama.....
 
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