Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[kyloren]

I don't know about you guys, but for me, the hardest part of quarantine, especially as it continues to grow in length, is the routine straying farther and farther away.

The work routine is one thing... that pays the bills. I'm talking about going to Best Buy on Tuesday to grab the newest movie, seeing a premiere Thursday night at my local Dolby Cinema, hanging out with family or friends on a Friday night, going to the beach/hiking on the weekend, catching a movie on a slow Saturday or Sunday afternoon... etc. etc. I miss it more and more everyday and I know now, more than ever, it's never to be taken for granted again.

With LA looking like it will stay shut down to the 1st of August, I can imagine the Bay Area doing the same... this is getting more taxing on my mind by the minute. Don't get me wrong, I'm blessed that me and my family have our health, but as the days drag on, so does my mental mindset.

[Hitman Horton]

Originally Posted by y2jman

don't understand logic my dad finally get me a mask today heath department fair grounds and stil i cannot go anywhere yet saying something about maybe sat heck might as well wait tues really what's the point getting me a mask and not taking me inside anywhere like walmart or game exchange its crap

granted low immune system don't have good lungs but really what's point get a mask and I cannot do nothing still not right

You need to speak to your father, not a bunch of strangers, about this. My guess is that you don't fully understand what is going on. Your father knows you and can help you to understand why things are the way they are. Ask him about it and I'm sure that he'll help you to understand.

[Josep5349]

Originally Posted by VictoryAtNight

I was standing in line at Walmart to enter and a guy near the entrance was arguing very loudly with the employee about having to wait in line to buy a car battery and needing to wait in line again to do the core exchange. No punches were thrown and only yelling.

Coronavirus drama.....

Hopefully some safety measures were in place, otherwise yelling could be more dangerous than punches.

[Batman1980]

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (KRQE) – With a possible reopening on the horizon, local restaurant owners have a feeling they’ll be closed a bit longer.

Restaurants are hoping to reopen on Friday for sit-down dining. However, the Santa Fe New Mexican reports Governor Lujan Grisham did not give the restaurant industry a reopen date.

In a Zoom meeting on Tuesday, the governor called the New Mexico Restaurant Association where about 500 people in the industry tuned in. She told the group she’s still considering the public safety issue.

Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham will provide the state with a COVID-19 update at 4 p.m. on Wednesday. During the news conference the governor will address the emergency public health order which is set to expire on Friday, May 15.

KRQE News 13 will stream the conference live on this page.

Source - KRQE.com

[Pondosinatra]

From CNN....doctors are seeing the symptoms start to change...different areas of the body now being attacked in some patients etc.

"Your immune system is overreacting to the virus"

Hmmmm. Isn't that exactly what happened during the 2nd wave of Spanish flu.

Underworld better watch out.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/12/healt...ion/index.html

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by VictoryAtNight

I was standing in line at Walmart to enter and a guy near the entrance was arguing very loudly with the employee about having to wait in line to buy a car battery and needing to wait in line again to do the core exchange. No punches were thrown and only yelling.

Coronavirus drama.....

How long will it be before stores will have to hire bouncers to keep people in check? Asking a low-paid and, perhaps, middle-aged or older female greeter to take charge of security and deal with hotheads won't cut it much longer. Then you have extreme cases like that Michigan Family Dollar incident.

More signs of things going back to normal: I had to forego breakfast this morning because the line at Dunkin' Donuts was too long. Before today there were usually only 1 or 2 people in line. Of course, it doesn't help if you only have 2 people working the counter. Food delivery apps are making a small fortune from me.

[Pondosinatra]

Looks like we finally have an approved antibody test in Canada...doesn't specify its accuracy however.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/covid...test-1.5567243

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

From CNN....doctors are seeing the symptoms start to change...different areas of the body now being attacked in some patients etc.

"Your immune system is overreacting to the virus"

Hmmmm. Isn't that exactly what happened during the 2nd wave of Spanish flu.

Underworld better watch out.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/12/healt...ion/index.html

Maybe I missed it, but where in the article does it say doctors are seeing a change in symptoms from before?

[Batman1980]

Some stores already have bouncer types but it doesn't matter that much right now because most stores are closed. I do think we might eventually see what happened in Wal-Marts, a police unit at the front of most stores. Idiots will think twice about doing anything questionable with an armed officer staring at them.

[bruceames]

Who's going to pay for these armed officers? I really don't want to walk around in a military-like state just because a few people refuse to wear masks. If it's such a big deal then have the greeter call the cops.

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Who's going to pay for these armed officers? I really don't want to walk around in a military-like state just because a few people refuse to wear masks. If it's such a big deal then have the greeter call the cops.

People want security but they don't want to see armed law enforcement - that never made much sense to me. I feel a lot safer every time I see uniformed officers, be it local cops or National Guard. I don't think anyone has to worry about soldiers firing on crowds in this country. This isn't a dictatorship.

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Who's going to pay for these armed officers? I really don't want to walk around in a military-like state just because a few people refuse to wear masks. If it's such a big deal then have the greeter call the cops.

Not much different than visiting a state capital these days.

[Monterey Jack]

Originally Posted by bruceames

If it's such a big deal then have the greeter call the cops.

Yeah, and in the ten or more minutes it would take for police to arrive, the person refusing to wear a mask could become violent, or infect who knows how many people around them. There's that video of that horrid woman getting forcefully ejected from a Red Lobster because she wasn't wearing a mask, and she slaps/punches one of the employees several times and rips another's mask off.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Monterey Jack

Yeah, and in the ten or more minutes it would take for police to arrive, the person refusing to wear a mask could become violent, or infect who knows how many people around them. There's that video of that horrid woman getting forcefully ejected from a Red Lobster because she wasn't wearing a mask, and she slaps/punches one of the employees several times and rips another's mask off.

Really, are such confrontations necessary though? It's probably more dangerous as far as the virus is concerned. The best action is just to ignore that person, keep your distance, and call the cops if they refuse to leave.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Who's going to pay for these armed officers? I really don't want to walk around in a military-like state just because a few people refuse to wear masks. If it's such a big deal then have the greeter call the cops.

Call the cops while the customer is already in their face threatening violence? By the time the cops get there the employee has already been spat on, or assaulted, or shot.

I don't like the idea of cops being brought into retail like military, but when people act like animals, this is what happens.

[MifuneFan]

I think if an area has a large amount of people and/or is a place where there's often troublemakers, that some sort of enhanced security presence could be added. Whether this be a National Guard soldier or whatever. If anything it would act as a deterrent, not only for that store, but many other places that this kind of behavior just isn't tolerated, and the stores, and gov't will do what's necessary to protect their workers.

I think it's extreme to jump from additional security at some stores to there being a military-like state.

[bruceames]

I just don't think getting physical with mask-less customers who refuse to leave is the right tactic. That's what leads to CNN articles.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by bruceames

I just don't think getting physical with mask-less customers who refuse to leave is the right tactic. That's what leads to CNN articles.

Getting physical first, escalating the situation? No, absolutely not. But when the customer acts up and gets violent, then what?

We've seen what happens when employees ask mask-less customers to leave if they don't put a mask on. The customers become abusive. People are unstable these days anyways, and even more likely to fly off the handle currently as they are totally stressed. I have a feeling if an officer asks a customer to leave, they will, and that will be the end of it. I'm not saying they should get physical and drag them out of the store. Just ask them to leave, and their presence should be all that's required. If an employee asks, they end up getting assaulted or shot. Do you think that employee would have been shot at the Dollar store if an officer had asked them to leave? Pretty sure we know what the answer is.

I have a serious problem with the stories I read about officers escalating the situation when uncalled for, leading to stories on CNN. They should be better trained to understand how to avoid escalating a situation. That's another discussion though.

But what are we to do when employees fear for their lives? One store was closed the other day on Cape Cod after just opening earlier that day, because the employees were afraid of the customers getting aggressive. If people are going to act like animals, then they are going to need to be controlled like animals.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Maybe I missed it, but where in the article does it say doctors are seeing a change in symptoms from before?

"One thing that is both curious and evolving and frustrating is that this disease is manifesting itself in so many different ways,"

Look to all the articles about kids in NY suddenly getting sick and dying - and not from respiratory failure.

[Monterey Jack]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Really, are such confrontations necessary though? It's probably more dangerous as far as the virus is concerned. The best action is just to ignore that person, keep your distance, and call the cops if they refuse to leave.

But what if they get in your face and you CAN'T maintain your distance? What if they start start spitting, throwing punches, and -- God forbid -- pull a dun or a knife? Calling the cops won't make much of a difference if you already have a knife sticking out of your sternum.