Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by chip75

The thing that gets me with social distancing (even though I think the number is almost arbitrary) is that so many people seem to have no idea what 2 metres is!

Hence my idea of a GPS bracelet that flashes when you get too close to people and can teleport you home when you're within 10 metres of a carrier ...

Most places it's 2 meters or 6 feet, but Germany it's 1.5 meters and Singapore only 1 meter. Maybe that's why they had a spike in cases, especially since they didn't have a mask mandate in place.

[Waboman]

[AFFanAttic]

YO this mf said "certian."

90,000 Americans dead in two months.

[Waboman]

[AFFanAttic]

Originally Posted by bruceames

I estimated that cases are down 30% this month. It could be closer to 25% or even less. The 40% was the percentage of decline attributed to the rest of the U.S. other than New York. You do have me curious so I'll see if I can get the totals later.

This is also confusing me (and I swear I'm not trying to be obtuse). Why would the decline percentage be an even more generous 40% if you take out New York, which has actually fallen a more noticeable amount in daily new cases?

I could even buy "New York has fallen 40%" or even better than that. Wouldn't it be more beneficial to the national average while leaving it in?

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by AFFanAttic

This is also confusing me (and I swear I'm not trying to be obtuse). Why would the decline percentage be an even more generous 40% if you take out New York, which has actually fallen a more noticeable amount in daily new cases?

I could even buy "New York has fallen 40%" or even better than that. Wouldn't it be more beneficial to the national average while leaving it in?

Well let's say that average daily cases, in the U.S., went from 30,000 in April to 22,000 in May (so far). That's a decline of 8,000 cases.

And let's say that New York's cases went from 7,500 to 2,500, a decline of 5,000 cases.

So that means that New York was responsible for 5/8 of that decline (62.5%), and the rest of the country the remaining 37.5%. The 40% was the roundabout figure I gave for the rest of the country, which I calculated in 37.5% here. Hope that makes sense now.

[BucketheadPikes]

WHO reports largest single-day increase in coronavirus cases:

Tedros Adhanom-Ghebreyesus, director-general of the World Health Organization, on Wednesday said that more cases had been reported to the agency in the last 24 hours than any time since the novel coronavirus outbreak began.

“We still have a long way to go in this pandemic,” Tedros said at a briefing in Geneva. “In the last 24 hours, there have been 106,000 cases reported to WHO – the most in a single day since the outbreak began. Almost two-thirds of these cases were reported in just four countries.”

Those four countries, WHO infectious disease epidemiologist Maria Van Kerkhove confirmed to CNN in an email, are: the United States, Russia, Brazil and India.

[AFFanAttic]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Well let's say that average daily cases, in the U.S., went from 30,000 in April to 22,000 in May (so far). That's a decline of 8,000 cases.

And let's say that New York's cases went from 7,500 to 2,500, a decline of 5,000 cases.

So that means that New York was responsible for 5/8 of that decline (62.5%), and the rest of the country the remaining 37.5%. The 40% was the roundabout figure I gave for the rest of the country, which I calculated in 37.5% here. Hope that makes sense now.

This is the way I'm seeing it, and I'm not saying I have 100% confidence in my logic, but

30,000 minus New York is 22,500 remaining US cases in April.
22,000 minus New York is 19,500 remaining US cases in May.

Difference of 3,000 between those NewYork-less numbers makes 13.3% decline.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Bigdog

Getting very tired of the constant shaming taking place here, it is annoying and childish and the mods should be canning every post that does it, would cut this post size in half at this point. This thread imo is now a pointless mess....

Well, in the spirt of process improvement -
Somewhat forgotten is that dental care is important. Your gums and teeth can become inflamed/infected which can lead to a host of other dental - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...h#post17144671 <- sagittal views
as well as medical problems.

So, I think during the corona times if one needs dental work (as there are some issues which are ‘non-emergent’ but still should not be put off indefinitely) one should try to find an office like this -
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/vi...en-83703365642

and probably safest to be the first patient of the day.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by AFFanAttic

This is the way I'm seeing it, and I'm not saying I have 100% confidence in my logic, but

30,000 minus New York is 22,500 remaining US cases in April.
22,000 minus New York is 19,500 remaining US cases in May.

Difference of 3,000 between those NewYork-less numbers makes 13.3% decline.

Yes, 13.3% decline in non-NY cases from April to May. But the 40% (or 37.5% calculated) is the proportion of the decline attributed to the non-NY cases. So it's comparing the May NY decline to the May non-NY decline.

[ctujackbauer]

I was told there would be no math.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by bruceames

It is possible to reopen the economy and social distance at the same time. The only question is how much and which areas can reopen to a greater extent.

I've been back and forth on the issue, but after really thinking about it now, I really think we should keep the economy completely closed until the virus has passed. I know it's sad with people out of work because we need people to work, but this is really a decision between jobs and people's lives. People's lives should always be the #1 priority. Hearing about a possible spike and second wave is downright scary and not worth the risk of re-opening. Because getting the spike up can happen almost instantaneously, but going downhill on that curve is extremely difficult.

[Chaotic]

Keep the economy closed forever? Dear lord.

[Pondosinatra]

Who knows why Calgary has the highest number of cases in Alberta by a huge margin. It's a mystery for sure.

"John Ivison: Why are travellers from abroad still landing at Canada's airports during COVID-19 lockdown?"

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/joh...id-19-lockdown

[ctujackbauer]

Originally Posted by MrHT

I've been back and forth on the issue, but after really thinking about it now, I really think we should keep the economy completely closed until the virus has passed. I know it's sad with people out of work because we need people to work, but this is really a decision between jobs and people's lives. People's lives should always be the #1 priority. Hearing about a possible spike and second wave is downright scary and not worth the risk of re-opening. Because getting the spike up can happen almost instantaneously, but going downhill on that curve is extremely difficult.

With all due... might your opinion be clouded because you still have a job where you can telecommute?

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by MrHT

I've been back and forth on the issue, but after really thinking about it now, I really think we should keep the economy completely closed until the virus has passed. I know it's sad with people out of work because we need people to work, but this is really a decision between jobs and people's lives. People's lives should always be the #1 priority. Hearing about a possible spike and second wave is downright scary and not worth the risk of re-opening. Because getting the spike up can happen almost instantaneously, but going downhill on that curve is extremely difficult.

More people will die if there is no economy to come back to than died of the Coronavirus. Suicides, heart attacks, diabetes, starvation, and murder...all will skyrocket.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

Keep the economy closed forever? Dear lord.

Not forever; just until the Coronavirus has passed. And don't say it won't; it definitely will. Just need patience.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Not forever; just until the Coronavirus has passed. And don't say it won't; it definitely will. Just need patience.

The economy doesn't know what patience is.

[Chaotic]

You’re making it sound like the virus will pass within the next few months. It will be years, if at all.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

You do understand that a lot more people go to the beach on a holiday like Memorial Day than some random times you may have gone right? This is Rockaway Beach on Memorial Day in 2011...

[Show spoiler]

So peaceful!

How cow! I go on Saturdays (about 3-4 times every summer) and never seen that type of crowd. At Coney Island, yeah, but never at Rockaway.