Panasonic DMP-UB900 Ultra HD Player

[grodd]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Daylight Mode you say?

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...c#post13241169

Yea I'm really looking forward to what happens down the road with this player.

If these functions come down the pipe well executed and if Panny finally comes around to DV... which I suspect they will,


http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panas...1701044398.htm

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by grodd

Not sure about a price drop but Best Buy has been selling them open box for $375 lately with 1 year warranty. Not a bad price.

Not a bad price? That is excellent! You can buy a dozen of them for all your friends.

We take our decisions and make our choices very seriously, with full intelligent fairness and balance of judgement.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by grodd

Yea I'm really looking forward to what happens down the road with this player.

If these functions come down the pipe well executed and if Panny finally comes around to DV... which I suspect they will,


http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panas...1701044398.htm

I wouldn't pin any hopes on a DV update, but even without those other 2017 features it's still the best BD spinner I've ever owned. Terrific PQ, fast as lightning when loading, it's the pinnacle of Panasonic's contribution to BD over the years.

[LordoftheRings]

That's what ↑ they all say.

[Go Blue]

Originally Posted by grodd

Not sure about a price drop but Best Buy has been selling them open box for $375 lately with 1 year warranty. Not a bad price.

Is there a good way to find Open Box deals through Best Buy without physically going to the stores to check?

[grodd]

Originally Posted by Go Blue

Is there a good way to find Open Box deals through Best Buy without physically going to the stores to check?

Yes, you have to watch the website. When they have one available it will show below the retail price. Also will show up on E-bay.

[evoll]

Just sent my oppo 203 back and i am going this eve to buy this player, do you all leave everything in auto or is there some settings that need to be changed?

[elwaylite]

Ive left pretty much everything in Auto so far.

[Tru-way]

Originally Posted by evoll

Just sent my oppo 203 back and i am going this eve to buy this player, do you all leave everything in auto or is there some settings that need to be changed?

Same as elwaylite I left everything on auto and it's fine!

There's a reason the UB900 thread has less than half the pages of the 203, people are too busy enjoying their movies.

[evoll]

I guess the only setting to change is to bitstream for atmos or is it already set that way?

[elwaylite]

Originally Posted by evoll

I guess the only setting to change is to bitstream for atmos or is it already set that way?

Edit: nevermind, I am thinking sony menu...

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

When watching Sony discs, yeah. With the SDR converter at the default level (0) highlights look much more blown out on those than the regular Blu-ray, whereas all my other UHD movies have noticeably more highlight detail at the default level, not less. So I adjust Sony discs down using the contrast control and up my backlight by one notch to compensate for the slight reduction in brightness.

And, incidentally, what grood describes is a good example of just how LG's HDR10 mapping works: in order to preserve as much luminance as possible they clip the brightness past a certain point instead of tone mapping the entire HDR10 range down to fit.

Just for fun I turned down contrast on the UB900 to -6 and I noticed the following. During the scene in Pacific Rim near the end of the movie when the Jaegers land in the water, the sky is now less blown out and I can actually make out more detail in the highlights of the white clouds.

I'm watching it on the Sony 75X940D which is HDR enabled. By default both backlight and contrast on this TV is set to max in HDR mode. I want to experience with more movies. The highway scene at the beginning of Deadpool immediately comes to mind because it has the same kind of clouds/sky as the scene I mentioned from Pacific Rim.

I haven't tried turning down contrast on the TV and leave the contrast on the UB900 to 0. Might wanna play with those settings too I guess.

[Geoff D]

Pacific Rim does run a bit 'hot' in UHD, yeah, the highlights in particular. It still looks AMAZING but just pop in the BD and compare a few scenes with the UHD (with contrast back on 0 ), you may find that the BD actually has more highlight detail in some scenes. The higher-end Sony 4k TVs like your own (nice bit of kit there!) tend to tone map out to 1000 nits and then clip the rest, from what I've heard, and with Warners discs being encoded at up to 4000 nits then it might be worth experimenting just to see what happens. BUT push the player adjustments too far and it can cause some banding, so it's a bit trial and error when it comes to certain discs.

[evoll]

Just got this player last night and like it so far. I ordered Pacific rim 4k so should I leave contrast at 100 on my e6 OLED or turn it down to see more details? It was calibrated but reading the post where he turned the contrast down in the player got me thinking I might need to for Pacific rim.

[elwaylite]

In HDR mode, my pro calibrated E6 is 100 OLED Light and 100 Contrast, Brightness 51.

[evoll]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

In HDR mode, my pro calibrated E6 is 100 OLED Light and 100 Contrast, Brightness 51.

OK awesome, same with mine. Thanks for sharing and the help.

[grodd]

Originally Posted by evoll

OK awesome, same with mine. Thanks for sharing and the help.

Leave both at 100, reducing the contrast on the TV wont fix the white clipping. You have to lower it on the player. But you don't have to lower it on every disc either.

If you want to play with settings more HDfever had some suggestions on sharping adjustments. They bumped the High Frequency to +4 and the Intermediate Frequency +1. I like to tweak it a bit also.
Some good pics here on some of the sharping effects.

http://www.hdfever.fr/2016/07/07/tes...nic-dmp-ub900/

They also found the Panasonic processing to be superior to the Oppo 203.

[evoll]

Some good info, thanks. I thought it was just me but this player does seem to have a sharper picture than the 203 I sent back.

[LordoftheRings]

The 203 is an unfinished product...work in progress.

This was just a preliminary: http://www.hdfever.fr/2017/01/01/pretest-oppo-udp203eu/

These Frenchmen do a good job testing those new 4K BR players, chapeau!

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Pacific Rim does run a bit 'hot' in UHD, yeah, the highlights in particular. It still looks AMAZING but just pop in the BD and compare a few scenes with the UHD (with contrast back on 0 ), you may find that the BD actually has more highlight detail in some scenes. The higher-end Sony 4k TVs like your own (nice bit of kit there!) tend to tone map out to 1000 nits and then clip the rest, from what I've heard, and with Warners discs being encoded at up to 4000 nits then it might be worth experimenting just to see what happens. BUT push the player adjustments too far and it can cause some banding, so it's a bit trial and error when it comes to certain discs.

I really don't like having to change settings just for certain movies but it might be worth it if it makes a difference as it does with Pacific Rim. I'm going to keep an eye out for this whenever I watch UHD discs from now on out.

Originally Posted by grodd

Leave both at 100, reducing the contrast on the TV wont fix the white clipping. You have to lower it on the player. But you don't have to lower it on every disc either.

If you want to play with settings more HDfever had some suggestions on sharping adjustments. They bumped the High Frequency to +4 and the Intermediate Frequency +1. I like to tweak it a bit also.
Some good pics here on some of the sharping effects.

http://www.hdfever.fr/2016/07/07/tes...nic-dmp-ub900/

They also found the Panasonic processing to be superior to the Oppo 203.

I now have turned down contrast on my TV and like you said it didn't fix the clipping so I'll just leave it at the default max setting.

Thanks for the HDfever link, those French really love to go in depth with their stuff.