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Old 11-23-2015, 08:29 PM   #4501
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shame.

My mom just ordered a 60" LG from Best Buy for $899 to surprise my dad.

I'm trying to swipe their Panny plasma, which was identical to the one I lost to my ex, to go in my bedroom.
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Old 11-23-2015, 08:43 PM   #4502
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at the risk of having parallel conversations in 2 threads, big deal. If Chevy can figure out how to sell a 505HP Camaro that gets 20mpg and meets all of the regulations that the industry said would kill fast cars, then LG can make a high nit display that meets energy requirements.

It's not a problem of physics, it's a problem of engineering, and they're up to the task. Problems of engineering are only ever temporary problems.
Tell that to Volkswagen http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...candal-started

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Old 11-23-2015, 09:51 PM   #4503
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they cheated the system, doesn't mean others did as well
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Old 11-24-2015, 07:42 AM   #4504
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RE: State or Country TV power regulations:

The Good: Investment in research to lower power requirements. Example: Nano crystals and blue LEDs which are more efficient, brighter and have a longer life. I believe that TV companies wanting to support HDR had to invest in this.

The Bad: Due to power regulations, TV companies can't include features to make their Smart TVs equal to Phones and Tablets. In many cases they can only have smart TVs in extremely large sizes that are exempt from the regulations. This has been true for Samsung till this year when they introduced a 32 inch smart TV for the Bedroom. Vidipath Smart TVs won't need a cable box and are ideal for a Bedroom.

Smart TVs for many Companies do not include a browser as that requires more memory and more CPU power. As such they can not support Vidipath.
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Old 11-24-2015, 04:39 PM   #4505
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RE: State or Country TV power regulations:

The Good: Investment in research to lower power requirements. Example: Nano crystals and blue LEDs which are more efficient, brighter and have a longer life. I believe that TV companies wanting to support HDR had to invest in this.

The Bad: Due to power regulations, TV companies can't include features to make their Smart TVs equal to Phones and Tablets. In many cases they can only have smart TVs in extremely large sizes that are exempt from the regulations. This has been true for Samsung till this year when they introduced a 32 inch smart TV for the Bedroom. Vidipath Smart TVs won't need a cable box and are ideal for a Bedroom.

Smart TVs for many Companies do not include a browser as that requires more memory and more CPU power. As such they can not support Vidipath.
In 2009 California exempted 58" TVs and above from regulation, simply because there were so few that they made little impact on statewide power consumption. That won't be the case with new regulations. The NRDC study, financed by the EPA, focuses on 55"-60" UHD TVs because they are the norm today. I doubt that they will ignore 65" TVs since they are rapidly gaining in popularity.
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Old 11-24-2015, 05:27 PM   #4506
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I see trouble ahead for high nit displays and HDR. State and Federal Gov. will do this.
lol, ray, you sure you’re not wishing it to be so?
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Old 11-24-2015, 06:41 PM   #4507
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lol, ray, you sure you’re not wishing it to be so?
You might want to head for Washington or Sacramento and start lobbying for your high nit UHD HDR displays.

Seriously, why would I wish for it to happen? You live in California. You know that stricter power consumption regulations for TVs is highly probable here.

I hope that they approach it the same way they did in 2009. Sets sold prior to the reg taking effect were grandfathered and retailers were allowed to sell remaining inventory. So, if a high peak nit display, not meeting the new reg is available, you still might have an opportunity to buy it before inventory is exhausted.
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Old 11-24-2015, 08:18 PM   #4508
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In hindsight, the irony is hilarious. "WINNING! ... or how to score AIDS"
"Sorry" to be Debbie Downer but . . . I'll skip greater comment on the purported hilarious irony of anyone (except perhaps Roy Cohn) having AIDS and simply say Charlie doesn't have "AIDS." He's simply HIV-positive. A big difference and a bit of education that his announcement will hopefully help further.
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Old 11-24-2015, 08:50 PM   #4509
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You might want to head for Washington or Sacramento and start lobbying for your high nit UHD HDR displays.
Silly man, you don't do that yourself, that’s what you pay professional lobbyists to do….pound the halls, press the flesh, take Congressmen/women out for fine dinners, etc. to discuss the situation…at least that’s what my brother-in-law tells me he spends all day doing.
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Seriously, why would I wish for it to happen?
Well, OLED will always lag behind in achieving the luminance output of LCDs…even considering the nits spec for the first two years from the start of the Ultra HD Blu-ray format license.

And since I envision you and OLED tv being like this….





By George, I was thinking there’s a conflict of interest there.

I don’t subscribe to the notion that this report to something to worry about….at least not/if-at-all, for a long time. I believe a much more serious and imminent threat to the quality of HDR imagery is with some content vendors churning out remastered movie titles in HDR which may be “Technically correct, (but) artistically incorrect.” ( http://www.etcentric.org/smpte-webin...lenges-of-hdr/ ) [something I brought readers' attention to over a year ago] in order to provide eye candy to HDR aficionados or just the public in general who are either clueless or dismissive as to thee original creative intent.

Point being, there should be active involvement by the Director or his knowledgeable proxy (the D.P.) with these remasterings.
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Old 11-24-2015, 11:38 PM   #4510
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"Sorry" to be Debbie Downer but . . . I'll skip greater comment on the purported hilarious irony of anyone (except perhaps Roy Cohn) having AIDS and simply say Charlie doesn't have "AIDS." He's simply HIV-positive. A big difference and a bit of education that his announcement will hopefully help further.
I know the difference, but it's just not as funny. OK, I will recycle Eric Cartman, and paraphrase Charlie Sheen as "UHD is not just Winning, it's HIV positive!"
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Old 11-25-2015, 12:00 AM   #4511
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And since I envision you and OLED tv being like this….


Sorry, but that made me lolz
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Old 11-25-2015, 12:16 AM   #4512
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Sorry, but that made me lolz
You can laugh now, but, if you are a videophile, you will own one by 2020 and it will be within your budget.

http://www.oled-info.com/public-shoo...plasma-tv-ever

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Old 11-25-2015, 12:46 AM   #4513
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If I don't will you buy me one?
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Old 11-25-2015, 06:32 AM   #4514
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Sorry, but that made me lolz
Is that someone praying the burn in fades?
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Old 11-25-2015, 02:55 PM   #4515
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New website from the BDA promoting UHD BD

http://www.uhdbdinnumbers.com/
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Old 11-25-2015, 03:12 PM   #4516
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New website from the BDA promoting UHD BD

http://www.uhdbdinnumbers.com/
Brings back memories of when HD launched.
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Old 11-25-2015, 04:22 PM   #4517
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New website from the BDA promoting UHD BD

http://www.uhdbdinnumbers.com/
The DVD comparisons are a bit ridiculous. Do they really expect anyone who wasn't interested in regular Blu-ray to suddenly make the jump to Ultra HD Blu-ray?
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Old 11-25-2015, 04:35 PM   #4518
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The DVD comparisons are a bit ridiculous. Do they really expect anyone who wasn't interested in regular Blu-ray to suddenly make the jump to Ultra HD Blu-ray?
honestly, maybe. A lot of people didn't adopt blu-ray because they couldn't see much of a difference. At least some of those people should be able to see the difference between DVD and UltraHD Blu-Ray.
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Old 11-25-2015, 04:37 PM   #4519
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Is that someone praying the burn in fades?
It is actually a Penton Man self portrait. He is patiently awaiting the arrival of Netflix Dolby Vision HDR.
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