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jsteinhauer · 12-07-2016, 04:30 AM

Trophies?!

Trophies are one of those gaming things that when well implemented can be used to increase the value of the games to which they are applies. It is so nonsensical to me that game developers enforce trophies that are exceedingly painful, difficult or near impossible. There are many trophies, and usually at least one per game, that make it clear that at least one person on the team abhors them, when they should be embracing them as a way to increase the value of their product and to create replay incentives.

A platinum trophy on PSN should be something challenging but pleasurable to unlock. Not something that punishes or demeans the trophy hunter, as many of them are.

Leonidas King · 12-07-2016, 04:47 AM

I dont say this as often but Im calling it a near Masterpiece just from the first 35 minutes that I played

I freaking love this game!

Blu-Curry · 12-07-2016, 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonidas_King

I dont say this as often but Im calling it a near Masterpiece just from the first 35 minutes that I played

I freaking love this game!

Me too!! Definitely enjoying it more than ICO, but that's not too hard lol. By the time I started playing earlier in the evening, there was already a patch 1.02 and to me the game plays really well! Trico has also been listening to me so far, but I only played maybe 2 hours and just got the ability to give commands lol. But the game is REALLY beautiful. Not pushing the PS4 to its limits, but definitely worthy of being a PS4 game.

My only disappointment was the very beginning.

[Show spoiler]

Leonidas King · 12-07-2016, 05:28 AM

I did experience slowdowns in the game. Mainly when you explore a new location area. I finished downloading the patch, does it fix some of the slowdown issues?

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Blu-Curry · 12-07-2016, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonidas_King

I did experience slowdowns in the game. Mainly when you explore a new location area. I finished downloading the patch, does it fix some of the slowdown issues?

I think it likely does for the most part. There were a few moments when I noticed some slowdown, but it wasn't terrible, nor annoying.

Maxflier · 12-07-2016, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonidas_King

I dont say this as often but Im calling it a near Masterpiece just from the first 35 minutes that I played

I freaking love this game!

I only got to play for about an hour last night and feel the same so far.

Steelmaker · 12-07-2016, 04:11 PM

For me this is not a day one 60.00 purchase. However I WILL get this down the road when it's discounted. ICO was OK. I LOVED Shadow of the Colossus.

Maxflier · 12-07-2016, 04:18 PM

It was a day one $35 purchase for me thanks to Best Buy's B2G1F.

J2005 · 12-07-2016, 04:33 PM

Want to get this but will have to wait til after xmas gameplay looks great

SlaughterX · 12-07-2016, 11:11 PM

Played around with it for a little while today. Didn't really have a lot of fun fumbling around with the controls and camera wonder what to do next. Made it out of the temple and took a break shortly after. I'm not gonna make a crazy hyperbolic statement so soon but I hope it's more like SotC and less like Ico, but I think it's gonna be more like the earlier.

I got the CE... the little plastic housing for the statue was broken but thankfully no actual damage to any of the components. It's a decent looking statue, the art book is underwhelming, but it's not full sized so I should have expected that. The steelbook is alright. Ultimately I am just glad it's finally out. Wish it had less issues though... they had so much time to iron everything out.

silversnake · 12-08-2016, 02:42 AM

This game sure is pushing my patience to the limits. When it works, it's so satisfying and feels very fluid but man when it doesn't, it's brutal. The camera and controls are like SOTC so I was expecting it, but the camera really blocks your view at times especially when it's something nice. Hints are not existent or if they are they are badly timed. Sometimes you do something right but have to wait for Trico to follow and so you are consistently second guessing yourself wondering if you are right or it's something else.

Having said all that, the audio, soundtrack, feel of companionship and visuals are top notch. I wasn't expecting the game to look this nice. So far the frame rate is solid on the pro but I could see how people would see slowdowns on PS4.

I feel like I'm going to constantly take breaks though as to not throw my controller out the window.

This will definitely attract the same crowd as the Ico and SOTC but the camera and controls are going to have people not even bother to finish / play the game unfortunately.

Zivouhr · 12-08-2016, 04:06 AM

Game sounds good so far. I do agree that sometimes these games leave you guessing what is going on or what has to happen next. In Shadow of the Colossus, I had no clue how to defeat that giant Turtle type boss at first. It literally took me a couple hours to figure it out and it wasn't fun because the camera kept fighting what I needed to do with the horse. Once I got it though, the rest was just a matter of practice and the rest of the game was classic.

So this one is more like Ico? I didn't think I'd care for Ico but that turned out to be a fun castle exploration game IMO, even though I prefer open world. You still could go wherever you wanted pretty much in the castle, so that was cool.

Looking forward to playing this soon.

Blu-Curry · 12-08-2016, 05:25 AM

I'm about 4.5 hours in now. I only had 1 instance where Trico didn't listen to me, so I'm not experiencing the complaints I've read from others. The times when you have to grab on to him so that he leaps up to other areas could be faster. I also only experienced 1 major slow down in frame rate, but the camera has mostly been fine for me. Some annoyances for me were thinking Trico was ready to catch me when I leapt across a large distance (he wasn't!), and this one moment where you have to

[Show spoiler]

your timing has to be spot on.

agoofykindasuperman · 12-08-2016, 01:10 PM

I'm loving this game too so far. Huge fan of the earlier two games, have played them multiple times. So was anxiously awaiting this one. I am not disappointed, and will spend hours playing it. Might not even get that "beat the game in under 30 hours" trophy. I'll do a trophy run after my first play-through I bet.

The game looks gorgeous in HDR on my launch-edition PS4. The only gripe I have is the camera controls. They're terrible and take some getting used to. Hopefully it can be fixed. No other issues though. I can't wait to get back to playing it. It's a refresh from the shooter games I've been playing lately like Uncharted 4, Tomb Raider, and Watch Dogs 2.

Wolf-man · 12-08-2016, 05:02 PM

Noticed that Amazon doesn't seem to be selling this anymore. Just third-party sellers. Anyone know why?

Steelmaker · 12-08-2016, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf-man

Noticed that Amazon doesn't seem to be selling this anymore. Just third-party sellers. Anyone know why?

Probably just temporarily out of stock.

Zivouhr · 12-08-2016, 07:14 PM

How large is the castle that the dog bird and kid are enclosed within? I imagine it's giant. Can you explore and backtrack as with Ico?

CasualKiller · 12-09-2016, 07:53 PM

Any fellow Canucks pick this up? Worth the 80 bucks?

Maxflier · 12-09-2016, 07:58 PM

Christ, you guys pay $80 for games there??
Do you at least have Best Buys there so you can take advantage of the Gamers Club Unlocked discounts?

Talal86 · 12-09-2016, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxflier

Christ, you guys pay $80 for games there??
Do you at least have Best Buys there so you can take advantage of the Gamers Club Unlocked discounts?

$80 Canadian

12-08-2016, 02:42 AM	#971
silversnake Blu-ray Champion Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Montreal Home Theater Gallery:22 4K collection:7 Blu-ray collection:498 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:32	This game sure is pushing my patience to the limits. When it works, it's so satisfying and feels very fluid but man when it doesn't, it's brutal. The camera and controls are like SOTC so I was expecting it, but the camera really blocks your view at times especially when it's something nice. Hints are not existent or if they are they are badly timed. Sometimes you do something right but have to wait for Trico to follow and so you are consistently second guessing yourself wondering if you are right or it's something else. Having said all that, the audio, soundtrack, feel of companionship and visuals are top notch. I wasn't expecting the game to look this nice. So far the frame rate is solid on the pro but I could see how people would see slowdowns on PS4. I feel like I'm going to constantly take breaks though as to not throw my controller out the window. This will definitely attract the same crowd as the Ico and SOTC but the camera and controls are going to have people not even bother to finish / play the game unfortunately. Last edited by silversnake; 12-08-2016 at 03:00 AM.

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12-07-2016, 04:30 AM	#961
jsteinhauer Gaming Moderator Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray reviews:120 Trading Score:66	Trophies?! Trophies are one of those gaming things that when well implemented can be used to increase the value of the games to which they are applies. It is so nonsensical to me that game developers enforce trophies that are exceedingly painful, difficult or near impossible. There are many trophies, and usually at least one per game, that make it clear that at least one person on the team abhors them, when they should be embracing them as a way to increase the value of their product and to create replay incentives. A platinum trophy on PSN should be something challenging but pleasurable to unlock. Not something that punishes or demeans the trophy hunter, as many of them are.

12-07-2016, 04:47 AM	#962
Leonidas King Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Sparta, Laconia - GRC Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:657 Blu-ray collection:2628 Blu-ray reviews: 34 Trading Score:250	I dont say this as often but Im calling it a near Masterpiece just from the first 35 minutes that I played I freaking love this game!

12-07-2016, 05:28 AM	#964
Leonidas King Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Sparta, Laconia - GRC Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:657 Blu-ray collection:2628 Blu-ray reviews: 34 Trading Score:250	I did experience slowdowns in the game. Mainly when you explore a new location area. I finished downloading the patch, does it fix some of the slowdown issues? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12-07-2016, 04:11 PM	#967
Steelmaker Blu-ray Duke Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Chattanooga, TN Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	For me this is not a day one 60.00 purchase. However I WILL get this down the road when it's discounted. ICO was OK. I LOVED Shadow of the Colossus.

12-07-2016, 04:18 PM	#968
Maxflier Active Member Member since:Oct 2012 Location:Louisiana 4K collection:233 Blu-ray collection:1499 Trading Score:19	It was a day one $35 purchase for me thanks to Best Buy's B2G1F.

12-07-2016, 04:33 PM	#969
J2005 Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2014 4K collection:345 Blu-ray collection:468 DVD collection:11 MA collection:320 Digital collection:384 Trading Score:28	Want to get this but will have to wait til after xmas gameplay looks great

12-07-2016, 11:11 PM	#970
SlaughterX Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Marion, IL Home Theater Gallery:26 4K collection:208 Blu-ray collection:1089 DVD collection:12 Trading Score:1	Played around with it for a little while today. Didn't really have a lot of fun fumbling around with the controls and camera wonder what to do next. Made it out of the temple and took a break shortly after. I'm not gonna make a crazy hyperbolic statement so soon but I hope it's more like SotC and less like Ico, but I think it's gonna be more like the earlier. I got the CE... the little plastic housing for the statue was broken but thankfully no actual damage to any of the components. It's a decent looking statue, the art book is underwhelming, but it's not full sized so I should have expected that. The steelbook is alright. Ultimately I am just glad it's finally out. Wish it had less issues though... they had so much time to iron everything out.

12-08-2016, 04:06 AM	#972
Zivouhr Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Dec 2011 Location:USA 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:127	Game sounds good so far. I do agree that sometimes these games leave you guessing what is going on or what has to happen next. In Shadow of the Colossus, I had no clue how to defeat that giant Turtle type boss at first. It literally took me a couple hours to figure it out and it wasn't fun because the camera kept fighting what I needed to do with the horse. Once I got it though, the rest was just a matter of practice and the rest of the game was classic. So this one is more like Ico? I didn't think I'd care for Ico but that turned out to be a fun castle exploration game IMO, even though I prefer open world. You still could go wherever you wanted pretty much in the castle, so that was cool. Looking forward to playing this soon.

12-08-2016, 05:25 AM	#973
Blu-Curry Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Winnipeg, Canada 4K collection:115 Blu-ray collection:409 Digital collection:72 Blu-ray reviews:7 Trading Score:5	I'm about 4.5 hours in now. I only had 1 instance where Trico didn't listen to me, so I'm not experiencing the complaints I've read from others. The times when you have to grab on to him so that he leaps up to other areas could be faster. I also only experienced 1 major slow down in frame rate, but the camera has mostly been fine for me. Some annoyances for me were thinking Trico was ready to catch me when I leapt across a large distance (he wasn't!), and this one moment where you have to [Show spoiler] your timing has to be spot on.

12-08-2016, 01:10 PM	#974
agoofykindasuperman Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Toronto, Canada Home Theater Gallery:27 4K collection:618 Blu-ray collection:2041 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:178	I'm loving this game too so far. Huge fan of the earlier two games, have played them multiple times. So was anxiously awaiting this one. I am not disappointed, and will spend hours playing it. Might not even get that "beat the game in under 30 hours" trophy. I'll do a trophy run after my first play-through I bet. The game looks gorgeous in HDR on my launch-edition PS4. The only gripe I have is the camera controls. They're terrible and take some getting used to. Hopefully it can be fixed. No other issues though. I can't wait to get back to playing it. It's a refresh from the shooter games I've been playing lately like Uncharted 4, Tomb Raider, and Watch Dogs 2.

12-08-2016, 05:02 PM	#975
Wolf-man Member Member since:Jul 2013 4K collection:369 Blu-ray collection:2011 DVD collection:404	Noticed that Amazon doesn't seem to be selling this anymore. Just third-party sellers. Anyone know why?

12-08-2016, 07:14 PM	#977
Zivouhr Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Dec 2011 Location:USA 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:127	How large is the castle that the dog bird and kid are enclosed within? I imagine it's giant. Can you explore and backtrack as with Ico?

12-09-2016, 07:53 PM	#978
CasualKiller Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Brooks Alberta Blu-ray collection:54 Trading Score:15	Any fellow Canucks pick this up? Worth the 80 bucks?

12-09-2016, 07:58 PM	#979
Maxflier Active Member Member since:Oct 2012 Location:Louisiana 4K collection:233 Blu-ray collection:1499 Trading Score:19	Christ, you guys pay $80 for games there?? Do you at least have Best Buys there so you can take advantage of the Gamers Club Unlocked discounts?

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