4K Movies Releases

[d514]

Originally Posted by ray0414

Is there any way to PROVE that the disc is 66G?

You can put the disc into a newer model of an LG Blu-ray Writer and check how big the disc and the movie file is. I can do that when I get my disc. But it will take a while.

[Opips3]

Here are some digital file sizes for various movies: (Sizes listed are UHD then BR).

Chappie
59.1 GB UHD
45.1 GB BR

Fury
65.6 GB UHD
48.2 GB BR

The Amazing Spider-Man 2
74.4 GB
47.8 GB

American Hustle
70.0 GB
38.7 GB

Smurfs 2
53.8 GB
38.7 GB

Moneyball
68.3 GB
47.8 GB

Dracula
63.9 GB
48.6 GB

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
60.0 GB
36.8 GB

A Few Good Men
73.3 GB
45.2 GB

Lawrence of Arabia
111.3 GB
68.6 GB

[Geoff D]

Those are the Sony UHD downloads, not UHD discs.

[imsounoriginal]

Don't see a thread for UHD deals, but anyway just FYI for those in the States -- FYE has Expendables 3 for $19.99, which I believe is the lowest price for any UHD title so far. It may be in-store only, and I dunno how good the movie/disc is, but just figured some people would be interested. Can post a pic later.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Don't see a thread for UHD deals, but anyway just FYI for those in the States -- FYE has Expendables 3 for $19.99, which I believe is the lowest price for any UHD title so far. It may be in-store only, and I dunno how good the movie/disc is, but just figured some people would be interested. Can post a pic later.

It launched at 17.99 I think. Also, now you see me previously had a preorder for 15.75 from Walmart but went up after a few days

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

I am glad that they released this information but I am kind of surprised that they didn't wait until CES 2017. I guess the idea is to hammer out what they are planning to use and announcing it so that everyone will be on the same page going forward.

Since most consumers use their televisions for watching more than only movies, exclusively, I have a special interest in determining whether this Identical suggestion in the header -



will hold true for all or some (i.e. content dependent) live productions…. http://advanced-television.com/2015/...-test-in-rome/

As far as Dolby is concerned, at NAB, Dolby was promoting how the DV workflow is the best future-proof solution for live productions….

NAB 2016: Dolby's Giles Baker on Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos - YouTube

[elwaylite]

I think DV will offer the standard we need if anything, and when I say we I mean folks at home who like reference calibrated displays.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

I think DV will offer the standard we need if anything, and when I say we I mean folks at home who like reference calibrated displays.

But one shouldn’t forget about the important steps further upstream, which are crucial for producing the best HDR.

1. You need to shoot (expose properly) in order to preserve the incredible range of the modern day digital cameras we have now. New members can read the ‘expose properly’ hyperlink which has its origins from a previous post back in July 2015 -> https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post11730339

2. You need a workflow to protect that high dynamic range which the cinematographer (hopefully) has provided you. Traditional 10 bit DPX (designed back in ’89) post house workflow is not enough to harvest all the dynamic range from modern digital cameras or Vision 3 stock for those who still shoot film.

With regards to #2 above ^, something else going under the radar is that Universal became the first studio to just announce “a target of comprehensive ACES implementation within two years, or by the first quarter of 2018, for all of our features” ( http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/beh...-studio-884613 ).

For those unfamiliar, the container openEXR was created by ILM as a high dynamic range file format with 16 bit half float, ACES took the openEXR container and then made a system out of it. So ACES does quite well in fulfilling #2. Kudos to Universal for making the commitment.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

With regards to #2 above ^, something else going under the radar is that Universal became the first studio to just announce “a target of comprehensive ACES implementation within two years, or by the first quarter of 2018, for all of our features” ( http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/beh...-studio-884613 ).

Not the article below where Ang Lee talks about shooting 4K 3D 120fps!

[Opips3]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Not the article below where Ang Lee talks about shooting 4K 3D 120fps!

Too much space. You can bite bullet is 120fps? 5,000fps!!

[Richard Paul]

ATSC announced that the ATSC 3.0 tuners would be optional though I am kind of skeptical about that. ATSC tuners have a royalty of over $10, which is more than 5 times higher than DVB-T tuners, and the ATSC companies have made billions of dollars because of that. Not to sound cynical but my guess is that they will alter the ATSC 1.0 licensing deals to encourage the CE companies to add ATSC 3.0 tuners. I like ATSC 3.0 but the use of the term "voluntary" seems really suspicious.

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

With regards to #2 above ^, something else going under the radar is that Universal became the first studio to just announce “a target of comprehensive ACES implementation within two years, or by the first quarter of 2018, for all of our features” ( http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/beh...-studio-884613 ).

Impressive, and that will be a big step forward for ACES.

[Wiidesire]

Originally Posted by ray0414

So i think the general consensous after only 2 days is that The Revenant is now the reference/go to disc for the 4k HDR format.

Is there any way to PROVE that the disc is 66G? because i was thinking, this movie is pretty much perfect. Theres no signs of compression whatsover. No banding like there is in the Martian. If they can fit a 3 hour movie onto a 66G disc with this type of quality, theres almost no reason to even bother using a 100G disc is there? besides a 4 hour a movie.

Yes, you could test it with a LG BH15NS55.

Benefits of 100GB discs besides higher video bitrates:

• Dolby Atmos, DTS: X and/or Auro 3D sound tracks
• more soundtrack languages -> viewer disc images to burn for worldwide distribution
• room for Extra material which is currently mostly moved to the BD

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

^ Which reminds me, with regards to the planned boxing flick project that Ang refers to in the first portion of the keynote…..for boxing aficionados (Geoff ? ) was to be based upon the classic Thrilla in Manila, screenplay by Peter Morgan (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0604948/).

Personally, I hope someday the movie comes to fruition as it brings back fond memories of the lead up to and watching the fight live (projected on the big screen) with some of my best friends from school back in the day.

That will be very interesting.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Not the article below where Ang Lee talks about shooting 4K 3D 120fps!

I would have liked to have seen more reporter coverage of the ACES session - http://nab16.mapyourshow.com/7_0/ses...03E8E572812059 (which made mention of it including a ST 2084 Display Transform) but I guess the subject of ACES (SMPTE ST 2065-1, not to mention ST 2065-4) seems comparatively distant to most AV journos.

With regards to Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk, I think I did my part on the last couple pages by bringing awareness to those who couldn’t attend NAB. Also, despite the truly cutting edge innovative technological prowess of the motion picture, at the time of this posting, so far, there will be only two cinemas capable of projecting the native format you’ve bolded (one in LA, the other in NY) and people are trying to get a third auditorium having that capability installed overseas…..but despite that…..we know content rules! and I think/hope Ang has a story to tell on the big screen with BLLHW that cinema goers will be drawn to despite the projection system their local cinema utilizes. Oscar contention would be icing on the cake.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

That will be very interesting.

I haven’t sat down yet to do any nervously serious watching this weekend (will do right after I’m finished posting here) but Good Luck . At this point I actually feel more for you than the Gunners.

Also, despite the recent red card setback, I hope the sports story of the century will still be on track for a feature film. The latest drama would indeed add yet another subplot to the movie version.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

ATSC 3.0

Prestigious award.....http://www.ateme.com/presse-releases...chnology_Award

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Prestigious...

As folks were alerted to prior to the show….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post12111441

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

ACES

Some ACES tonescales for cinema and television (note: system tonescales show how light in the scene on the horizontal axis translates into light on the display on the vertical axis).

first with SDR…..



^ Point being, SDR tv is about 1 stop brighter than cinema and slightly lower contrast, but essentially very similar


Now after overlapping the SDR tonescales with various HDR tonescales……



^ Point being, you preserve more much contrast in the highlights and the shadows compared to SDR, but the nominal reproduction of the midtones is unchanged.

*Overall take home point to newbies (of which Richard is not), although the range is markedly increased, the overall brightness of the HDR content won’t be, soooo not to worry about “burned retinas” with HDR as initially reported on the internet.

[unknownuser0001]

I don't understand the studios..if they want to promote the new formatum then why on earth they do release the movies that are failed in the cinemas? I know they want the loss back but why would it make profit with a home release? People don't give a damn about bad movies. Release the successful blockbusters and people will buy the new format, I'm sure that many people would buy (or at least want to buy) the 4K Blu-ray players for Star Wars for example, Disney made a stupid mistake with not releasing SW VII on 4k Blu-ray....Waiting to see how the format work out is a silly excuse, it will gain popularity if we can buy good blockbusters. It's not the same like when a game developer is considering the development for a gaming platform, releasing a movie in 4K is much cheaper and just only one platform. It's not the same as it was in 2006 with two HD platforms, they did not hesitate releasing on both but now they don't want to. So come on

I mean there are few good movies on 4K Blu-ray but very few at the moment

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

not to worry

For after the color science has been worked out (T’B’D’= inside joke among color scientists at the beginning of the process), grading in HDR for TV shows is not that difficult….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpcM...utu.be&t=1m41s