HDTVTEST (Vincent Teoh) Discussion Thread

[Wingman1977]

Originally Posted by wxman2003

I'm waiting for his first boxing video where says this tv is crap and is going back.

Holy crap, you literally made me laugh out loud.

[Jay Mammoth]

Originally Posted by wxman2003

The point being it will not damage the tv.

Exactly, people look for any excuse to argue in here lol

[chip75]

Originally Posted by wxman2003

The point being it will not damage the tv. Sony would lose big in court if someone damaged their tv using vivid, and Sony tried to use the excuse it was not meant for normal viewing.

It depends on what "damaged" means. I'd imagine older OLEDs running Vivid and persistent images would be prone to burn in (and all that would be in the T&Cs), we've had folks stung with Sky boxes and YouTube Apps being told they've exceeded "normal viewing" and haven't had their panels replaced.

And unless it's some huge Class Action suit (which might not get the cost of a new TV back anyway), the average person isn't going to be able take Sony to court unless they have deep pockets, small claims courts or consumer protection might be an option.

Changing your C1 into a G1 probably isn't the best idea if you think you can get any issues caused by it rectified under warranty. Fine if you're craving extra nits and don't mind if something does go wrong, but if you're happy to pick up a new OLED if it does, I'd ask why you didn't get a G1, Sony or Panasonic in the first place?

[Jay Mammoth]

Panasonic has no 77” OLEDs, Sony A90J is way overpriced and only has 2 HDMI 2.1 ports. A80J same problem plus don’t like the matte screen. G1 wasn’t available when I ordered plus I basically have a G1 now for the price of a C1.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by chip75

It depends on what "damaged" means. I'd imagine older OLEDs running Vivid and persistent images would be prone to burn in (and all that would be in the T&Cs), we've had folks stung with Sky boxes and YouTube Apps being told they've exceeded "normal viewing" and haven't had their panels replaced.

And unless it's some huge Class Action suit (which might not get the cost of a new TV back anyway), the average person isn't going to be able take Sony to court unless they have deep pockets, small claims courts or consumer protection might be an option.

Changing your C1 into a G1 probably isn't the best idea if you think you can get any issues caused by it rectified under warranty. Fine if you're craving extra nits and don't mind if something does go wrong, but if you're happy to pick up a new OLED if it does, I'd ask why you didn't get a G1, Sony or Panasonic in the first place?

You've tried to warn them.

[Jay Mammoth]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

You've tried to warn them.

Lol

[Discofever]

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

Panasonic has no 77” OLEDs, Sony A90J is way overpriced and only has 2 HDMI 2.1 ports. A80J same problem plus don’t like the matte screen. G1 wasn’t available when I ordered plus I basically have a G1 now for the price of a C1.

The 77” a80j has a high gloss screen.

[I DO BLU]

YouTube

[LordoftheRings]

Hey, we had it coming.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Discofever

The 77” a80j has a high gloss screen.

Forget picture quality, it must have 10 HDMI 2.1 for future gaming consoles even there will never be more than two gaming consoles at best, and it can't have a gloss screen.

[Jay Mammoth]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

Forget picture quality, it must have 10 HDMI 2.1 for future gaming consoles even there will never be more than two gaming consoles at best, and it can't have a gloss screen.

Wahhh everyone isnt on Sonys nuts wahhh. I’ll take the most accurate picture quality and better near black handling over a little pop in HDR highlights

[Jay Mammoth]

From John Reformatto the calibrator who has already calibrated several of both sets for value electronics

“RE the discussions of LG vs Sony this year. Although the Sony will have a perceptively brighter and maybe a more impactful HDR picture the LG has a ton more controls for calibration to bring the set to reference or very close where the Sony does not. On the Sony there is only so much you can correct and or customize. That said, the LG will have the more accurate picture which is why it's used as a client monitor at most of the post production houses. This is not to say you can't get a very accurate Sony but there is so much variation that i would go with the LG for accuracy.”

Oh and look at that C1 won best 4K OLED TV
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/be...k-ultra-hd-uhd

[tama]

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

From John Reformatto the calibrator who has already calibrated several of both sets for value electronics

“RE the discussions of LG vs Sony this year. Although the Sony will have a perceptively brighter and maybe a more impactful HDR picture the LG has a ton more controls for calibration to bring the set to reference or very close where the Sony does not. On the Sony there is only so much you can correct and or customize. That said, the LG will have the more accurate picture which is why it's used as a client monitor at most of the post production houses. This is not to say you can't get a very accurate Sony but there is so much variation that i would go with the LG for accuracy.”

Oh and look at that C1 won best 4K OLED TV
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/be...k-ultra-hd-uhd

Also from John over at AVSFourm:

Looking at Vincent's G1 vs A90J video again and taking into account what i'm seeing on all the sets i've been calibrating, i have to say in my opinion, although the A90J comes out of black a little too fast, the pro's in upscaling, impactful HDR, brighter full screen SDR along with the heat sink design makes me favor the Sony. Even though the LG has superior calibration controls that let's you pretty much correct almost every kind of calibration issue that comes along, when comparing color accuracy by eye between the two sets, visually they are virtually the same. Although it's interesting to show on paper that one set is more accurate than the other, at the end of the day all that matters is what your eyes see. And Sony's picture processing is a winner in my opinion.

[Jay Mammoth]

Originally Posted by tama

Also from John over at AVSFourm:

Looking at Vincent's G1 vs A90J video again and taking into account what i'm seeing on all the sets i've been calibrating, i have to say in my opinion, although the A90J comes out of black a little too fast, the pro's in upscaling, impactful HDR, brighter full screen SDR along with the heat sink design makes me favor the Sony. Even though the LG has superior calibration controls that let's you pretty much correct almost every kind of calibration issue that comes along, when comparing color accuracy by eye between the two sets, visually they are virtually the same. Although it's interesting to show on paper that one set is more accurate than the other, at the end of the day all that matters is what your eyes see. And Sony's picture processing is a winner in my opinion.

My original point still remains, you cant go wrong with either set. People saying the Sony is way better than the LG dont know what they are talking about. I love watching movies the most but I’m also a gamer so i went with the LG. Both are amongst the best TVs you can buy.

[LordoftheRings]

John Woo?

[gkolb]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

John Woo?

Same John as Post 892.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by gkolb

Same John as Post 892.

Reformatto ... ty sir.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

Wahhh everyone isnt on Sonys nuts wahhh. I’ll take the most accurate picture quality and better near black handling over a little pop in HDR highlights

Oh no no, If what you're saying above is correct, I would have to pick LG C-1 OLED over Sony. If near black handling also equates to better shadow detail and LG actually having more accurate picture quality, I would take LG. Unfortunately I haven't seen that with any previous LG OLEDs , Sony has always beat them. However it could be true that the C-1 and G-1 is step forward for LG OLED.

[LordoftheRings]

If you don't plan to calibrate go Sony's latest 2021 OLED TV.
If you plan to calibrate go LG's latest 2021 OLED models.

Makes sense? Of course if money is part of the equation, or not.

[PUsokrJosh305]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

If you don't plan to calibrate go Sony's latest 2021 OLED TV.
If you plan to calibrate go LG's latest 2021 OLED models.

Makes sense? Of course if money is part of the equation, or not.

I can vouch for the calibration option. Although it's a tad bit more money spent, it's well worth it to get your TV calibrated. I got my LG C9 calibrated and have never had to worry about changing settings (other than Dynamic Tone Mapping which is more of a preference than anything). It's a great feeling just to sit back and enjoy watching movies or any content that I throw on my C9! Again, I highly recommend the calibration route. You won't regret it!!