HDTVTEST (Vincent Teoh) Discussion Thread - Page 58 - Blu-ray Forum

Waboman · 09-30-2021, 04:44 PM

Krynoid-Man · 10-01-2021, 05:01 PM

Scottishguy · 10-01-2021, 06:56 PM

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So Vincent has confirmed the answer to the question, is HDR crayons? Is yes.

unberechenbar · 10-01-2021, 09:46 PM

That's really cool. I've never seen any of those movies so I hope eventually they make it to UHD.

mrtickleuk · 10-02-2021, 12:52 PM

There's a youtube channel called HDR-X where the guy takes these 8-bit SDR originals and does what Vincent has done here. His results are very variable: some ok, some look awful. You really do need the uncompressed raw originals to be able to do anything meaningful, because you are stretching out a VERY small number of bits over a very wide area. He pretentiously says he is "mastering in HDR-X", as if he's invented something new.

Fendergopher · 10-02-2021, 05:06 PM

HDR-X, because it's stretched out wide on the X-axis.

chip75 · 10-02-2021, 09:22 PM

Vinnie calls creator's intended HDR "Fake HDR" then proceeds to make his own. Plus who's to know how much more dynamic range is at the source? we've seen plenty of nuked UHD content because there's not much more to get from them (which he seems quite happy with).

Scottishguy · 10-02-2021, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chip75

Vinnie calls creator's intended HDR "Fake HDR" then proceeds to make his own. Plus who's to know how much more dynamic range is at the source? we've seen plenty of nuked UHD content because there's not much more to get from them (which he seems quite happy with).

He slated Blade Runner 2049 at the end of the video again for the 2049th time.

When you want a MaxFALL of 600 as standard on all HDR grades.

unberechenbar · 10-03-2021, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Scottishguy

He slated Blade Runner 2049 at the end of the video again for the 2049th time.

When you want a MaxFALL of 600 as standard on all HDR grades.

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I didn't get the impression that's what he wanted.

lgans316 · 10-03-2021, 11:52 AM

Some of you folks can never be pleased lol. Damned if he did, damned if he didn't.

Scottishguy · 10-03-2021, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lgans316

Some of you folks can never be pleased lol. Damned if he did, damned if he didn't.

How many TVs you bought in the last 2 years?

I DO BLU · 10-03-2021, 06:00 PM

Geoff D · 10-04-2021, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by lgans316

Some of you folks can never be pleased lol. Damned if he did, damned if he didn't.

What does "damned if he didn't" even mean in this context? No-one in their right fookin mind would ask him to regrade SDR stuff into HDR so why are you surprised that we're taking the piss? He's only picked this up from Evil Boris anyway, who was doing his own trailer regrades a while back.

I DO BLU · 10-04-2021, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

What does "damned if he didn't" even mean in this context? No-one in their right fookin mind would ask him to regrade SDR stuff into HDR so why are you surprised that we're taking the piss? He's only picked this up from Evil Boris anyway, who was doing his own trailer regrades a while back.

Yes this has been done before

chip75 · 10-04-2021, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

What does "damned if he didn't" even mean in this context? No-one in their right fookin mind would ask him to regrade SDR stuff into HDR so why are you surprised that we're taking the piss? He's only picked this up from Evil Boris anyway, who was doing his own trailer regrades a while back.

He had a go of folks ripping him one in his comments. Calling it a "proof of concept". He knows that SDR to HDR conversions are a thing, right? and if there are masters of DIs that have plenty more to give I'm sure the studios will get around to them eventually, and we've had plenty of titles were they've just nuked the tits off them just because they can.

Panson · 10-04-2021, 08:25 PM

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How many TVs you bought in the last 2 years?

That's the crux, not that things were going smoothly prior.

LordoftheRings · 10-04-2021, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by I DO BLU

Yes this has been done before
Avatar 2009 - The Ultimate HDR Experience | HDR-X 6000 PQ Rec. 2020 - INTERNAL TEKNO3D Demo - YouTube

Avatar 2009 | The Ultimate HDR Experience | ADVANCED HDR-X Rec. 2020 - DECEMBER 2020 TEKNO3D Demo - YouTube

Oh yeah, that looks good...HDR 3D.

Penton-Man · 10-06-2021, 05:22 PM

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He knows that SDR to HDR conversions are a thing, right?

Others do too, scroll down to the bottom speaker for Pseudo HDR – Enabling HDR Experience for SDR video…. https://2021.demuxed.com/

An approach that uses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adapti...st_Limited_AHE) in the pre-processing stage.

Agent Kay · 10-06-2021, 06:00 PM

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=v9XneXymASs

Make LG and Vincent go away?

I DO BLU · 10-06-2021, 07:03 PM

10-01-2021, 09:46 PM	#1144
unberechenbar Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:May 2021 Location:USA Home Theater Gallery:5 4K collection:350 Blu-ray collection:350 Blu-ray reviews: 343 Trading Score:3	That's really cool. I've never seen any of those movies so I hope eventually they make it to UHD.

10-02-2021, 12:52 PM	#1145
mrtickleuk Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2017 Location:Birmingham, UK - you know, the original one! 4K collection:57 Blu-ray collection:103 DVD collection:194	There's a youtube channel called HDR-X where the guy takes these 8-bit SDR originals and does what Vincent has done here. His results are very variable: some ok, some look awful. You really do need the uncompressed raw originals to be able to do anything meaningful, because you are stretching out a VERY small number of bits over a very wide area. He pretentiously says he is "mastering in HDR-X", as if he's invented something new.

10-02-2021, 05:06 PM	#1146
Fendergopher Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2017 Location:Norway 4K collection:104 Blu-ray collection:150	HDR-X, because it's stretched out wide on the X-axis.

10-02-2021, 09:22 PM	#1147
chip75 Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:Wales 4K collection:304 Blu-ray collection:3100 DVD collection:1782 iTunes collection:230 Trading Score:9	Vinnie calls creator's intended HDR "Fake HDR" then proceeds to make his own. Plus who's to know how much more dynamic range is at the source? we've seen plenty of nuked UHD content because there's not much more to get from them (which he seems quite happy with).

10-03-2021, 11:52 AM	#1150
lgans316 Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Location:RM16, United Kingdom Blu-ray reviews:17 Trading Score:498	Some of you folks can never be pleased lol. Damned if he did, damned if he didn't.

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