HDR Discussion Thread

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

cutting edge

Perhaps a bit in the weeds for most readers of the thread; nevertheless, note to Timo K. (of the AVS group at Dolby Labs), regarding the ongoing research and debate we know about among color scientists investigating/proposing perceptually uniform color primaries and volumes…. JzAzBz, in comparison to ICtCp, not bad, eh? (scroll down to paragraph
4. Color spaces tested), in the available to download pdf here -

https://www.osapublishing.org/oe/abs...oe-25-13-15131

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

of the AVS group at Dolby Labs

With regards to the ^ acronym, to be clear –
https://www.linkedin.com/in/timo-kunkel-bb021917/

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Yesterday Roger D. spoke at the ASC Clubhouse here in L.A. .....

For Roger D. fans, follow-up to above ^ heads-up post from Nov. 9, staff writers now doing their thing…….
https://theasc.com/news/roger-deakin...049-discussion

[Penton-Man]

addendum to ^ , it’s no secret that Roger is a longtime proponent of Arri cameras (and duly merited), but to give equal face time to other manufacturers offerings, the Sony VENICE has been actively making the rounds around the world/country and next up, Brooklyn….
https://www.abelcine.com/learn/calen...th-sony-venice

Note the BoG on HDR in the secondary training room. To fellow Insider Robert Zohn and/or other members - if you’re around, might be fun and interesting to check it out.

[Penton-Man]

At CAMERIMAGE 2017 (although I’ve been posting about the festival for years, be it in Club Penton or the 4K Movies Releases thread, here is some background for those unfamiliar – “Camerimage has become so established that, on the week of Nov. 11, any name cinematographer who isn't working is likely to be found in Bydgoszcz, Poland”- http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/beh...season-1031391 , and yes, we even have some native Polish membership here on Blu-ray.com),

a tip of the hat to Arri for providing this workshop, a how-to on HDR/WCG – https://camerimage.pl/en/wydarzenie/...ji-obrazu-hdr/ , which I think will fill the seating capacity.

[puddy77]

Widescreen Review has an excellent interview with Technicolor colorist Peter Doyle about HDR. Here's Technicolor's post about it. And here's a direct link to the PDF.

[ray0414]

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by puddy77

Widescreen Review has an excellent interview with Technicolor colorist Peter Doyle about HDR. Here's Technicolor's post about it. And here's a direct link to the PDF.

Dude, that's AWESOME. thank you. I like how he reiterates, amongst other things, that theatrical HDR is NOT the same thing as home HDR - which some of us have been trying to tell y'all for a while - and that the latter should very much be considered as its own thing, perhaps even as the one true 'master' for the film if it's graded in HDR to begin with.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Dude, that's AWESOME. thank you. I like how he reiterates, amongst other things, that theatrical HDR is NOT the same thing as home HDR - which some of us have been trying to tell y'all for a while - and that the latter should very much be considered as its own thing, perhaps even as the one true 'master' for the film if it's graded in HDR to begin with.

Haven’t had the chance to read the article yet, but from your comment it sounds like Peter has become a bit less philosophically agonized over the different mediums since last Spring, timestamp 2 min. 26 sec…..
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...m#post13665396

[Penton-Man]

In-house Dolby Vision mastering capability filtering down to even the smaller post houses, e.g. demo this evening in Silver Spring, MD. - https://otthouse.splashthat.com/?em=537 (just off the beltway for locals).

As an aside, on a personal note, further south in the District, good to see Georgetown win the men’s Big East soccer championship in overtime and get an automatic berth to the NCAA tournament…… https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.9844f9f26ee0

[PaulGo]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

In-house Dolby Vision mastering capability filtering down to even the smaller post houses, e.g. demo this evening in Silver Spring, MD. - https://otthouse.splashthat.com/?em=537 (just off the beltway for locals).

I wonder is Dolby is subsidizing this event (and other events) to get DV widely accepted.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Haven’t had the chance to read the article yet, but from your comment it sounds like Peter has become a bit less philosophically agonized over the different mediums since last Spring, timestamp 2 min. 26 sec…..
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...m#post13665396

He's not really saying something all that different in that video (which was fascinating, BTW), it's about the choices that are open to a colourist in this brave new world of a gajillion different deliverables and being able to consolidate it all with the proper intent baked in. It was interesting that he mentioned pulling up a grade from 2005 and having it still work with Technicolour's systems, I wonder if that was a veiled reference to him having done the HDR pass for Jackson's Kong?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PaulGo

I wonder is Dolby is subsidizing this event (and other events) to get DV widely accepted.

If so, more power to them. Also, I wouldn’t mind one bit for example if Samsung offered subsidies to theater owners so as to encourage more purchases and installments of their direct LED cinema screens, same goes with Sony for their CLEDIS. Or if Dolby and Samsung sponsored in-services to mastering personnel from facilities not yet capable of producing HDR10+ or Dolby Vision masters since there is a learning curve involved from choosing brightness levels….





To providing all sorts of deliverables, e.g.





I’m more interested if the prolific marketeers/bloggers that post nearly hour by hour on the internet about Ultra HD 4K and HDR, especially using tweeter as a platform to induce viral replication with retweets by others are actually somehow affiliated with some UHD/HDR related companies or organizations vis-à-vis either the exchange of real money or undisclosed, accepted perks for their hype services.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

different deliverables

Yes, unbeknownst to many is that for example just for the short film Meridian, there are three distinct ‘home media’ deliverables transcoded from the same master file encoded and compressed at varying luminances and bit rates to Netflix customers and testing organizations…..one with the specs I posted months ago, the one having the specs zmarty posted just recently for his YouTube channel and yet another.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

undisclosed

^ Reminds me, regarding the 2nd paragraph of this post on the last page....

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

In-house Dolby Vision mastering capability filtering down to even the smaller post houses, e.g. demo this evening in Silver Spring, MD. - https://otthouse.splashthat.com/?em=537 (just off the beltway for locals).

As an aside, on a personal note, further south in the District, good to see Georgetown win the men’s Big East soccer championship in overtime and get an automatic berth to the NCAA tournament…… https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.9844f9f26ee0

For full disclosure, although not for the soccer team per se, I am a past donor to a sporting facility on the Georgetown campus, which I think is especially important these days in the U.S. - https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news...-1095145027923

[gkolb]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I’m more interested if the prolific marketeers/bloggers that post nearly hour by hour on the internet about Ultra HD 4K and HDR, especially using tweeter as a platform to induce viral replication with retweets by others are actually somehow affiliated with some UHD/HDR related companies or organizations vis-à-vis either the exchange of real money or undisclosed, accepted perks for their hype services.

Hmmm, you don't suppose they're all russian agents ?

New word today of their probable involvement in Brexit influencing.

[PaulGo]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

For full disclosure, although not for the soccer team per se, I am a past donor to a sporting facility on the Georgetown campus, which I think is especially important these days in the U.S. - https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news...-1095145027923

The current political climate is keeping my blood pressure quite high!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

.....https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news...-1095145027923

Don (from Sony Pictures), in my role as a caring friend , pay attention to those ^ new guidelines.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PaulGo

The current political climate is keeping my blood pressure quite high!

"I don't remember."

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

"I don't remember."

And my response to all the president's men and women....https://emojipedia.org/face-with-one-eyebrow-raised/