HDR Discussion Thread

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by BrownianMotion

Yikes, 61% on RT? That's an even worse rating than I thought it would get.

Critics are a lot harder on it - look at the audience score.

[BrownianMotion]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Critics are a lot harder on it - look at the audience score.

I usually don't take audience scores seriously when it comes to Netflix original shows. House of Cards has a pretty high audience score on RT as well, but it's legitimately the worst show I've ever seen. The Netflix effect will generally yield a high score for a hyped up show, regardless of its quality.

If it wasn't for the glorious HDR on this, I wouldn't have bothered watching even a second of it.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by puddy77

shout out to colorist Jill Bogdanowicz....

I posted this pic of Jill working awhile back -
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...l#post11959933

I think the link at the end of that ^ post has since expired, but to give you an idea of her family heritage and training (which first prompted me to write that post), here’s the pertinent excerpt from a still active link….

“Her father was a senior film color scientist for Kodak, and her grandfather developed one of the first 3D stereoscopic cameras. Her sister, Corinne Bogdanowicz, is also a well-respected colorist in Hollywood. Today, she is the senior colorist at Deluxe. Here, she talks about her career, her recent work and her experience using the Baselight platform.

What was it about the art of coloring that first attracted you to the work?

“I have a background in painting. I started as an intern at Kodak in Rochester, NY, while I was in college and learned all the technical aspects of digital color correction there. At the time, Kodak owned Cinesite in Hollywood, and after I graduated with my art degree, I went out to California to be an assistant on the Coen Brothers’ Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?, which was shot by Roger Deakins (ASC, BSC). This was the first movie to finish entirely with the digital intermediate process. I basically worked my way up from there.

“I think I always bring my art and photography background to the work I do. I also have a minor in physics from college and I use that technical background – the physics and color science – to help make the most of a grading system’s color toolset.”

Thee article later goes on to state her feelings with regards to HDR....
http://www.postmagazine.com/Publicat...gdanowicz.aspx

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

price of that Sony camera?

Let’s put it this way. Last Monday, my 401k lost more money than the cost of the Sony Venice…..so, in other words, the Venice is substantially cheaper than the Alexa LF.

I'm afraid to look at the market today.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by puddy77

I guess it could have been even shallower, but they compromised with the producers to shoot in 5k crop mode (like Ghost in the Shell).

But do you feel the need for a shallow depth of focus to center the audiences' attention on the person/object of interest? And, at what point does it all become too much in this or that movie? So, I take it you personally don't feel it's overused in Altered Carbon?

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Not really, no.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/altered_carbon/s01


"Abomination" is not a word to describe entertainment

Looks colorful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm_S...ature=youtu.be

[PaulGo]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Let’s put it this way. Last Monday, my 401k lost more money than the cost of the Sony Venice…..so, in other words, the Venice is substantially cheaper than the Alexa LF.

I'm afraid to look at the market today.

Dow plummets 1032 points, now down 10% from record; S&P 500 drops 3.7% to new low for week

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/08/us-s...he-agenda.html

[LordoftheRings]

And this:

• http://www.newsweek.com/elon-musk-te...-spacex-801433
• https://petapixel.com/2018/02/07/rea...-flying-space/

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PaulGo

Dow plummets 1032 points, now down 10% from record; S&P 500 drops 3.7% to new low for week
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/08/us-s...he-agenda.html

Fabulous, now I’m definitely finding it hard today to follow the Yalie credo expressed on the last page.

[Penton-Man]

Heads-up New Yorkers, especially fellow member Robert Zohn (https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post13136408), as the ‘lineman’ is presenting later this month in your neck of the woods - "CES 2018: It Ain't What Ya Got, It's What Ya Do With It", see.....

https://mailchi.mp/smpte/ny-february-2018

[Robert Zohn]

Thanks Penton-Man! I just registered and look forward to the event.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Fabulous, now I’m definitely finding it hard today to follow the Yalie credo expressed on the last page.

We only follow real action; big rise and big decline...bitcoin. ..We like our bubble gum to xpand and burst with a big splash...a big bang...boom boom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNj_...ature=youtu.be

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Heads-up New Yorkers, especially fellow member Robert Zohn (https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post13136408), as the ‘lineman’ is presenting later this month in your neck of the woods - "CES 2018: It Ain't What Ya Got, It's What Ya Do With It", see.....

https://mailchi.mp/smpte/ny-february-2018

• http://www.soundandcommunications.co...r/pete-putman/

[LordoftheRings]

Latest Essential Phone update adds Auto-HDR, new HDR algorithm

[LordoftheRings]

Windows 10 Build 17093: Multi-GPU Controls, Fewer Passwords, HDR Calibration

"Additional new improvements include the ability to delete all diagnostic data your PC sends back to Microsoft, a calibration tool for HDR video to allow for playback fine-tuning, various eye control improvements, some Edge updates (better fullscreen, “clutter-free” printing), the ability to edit your own user dictionary, Windows App permission improvements, and the ability to use the Narrator when in Safe Mode."

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by BrownianMotion

I'm not so sure that anyone here actually cares about the Olympics. They care about 4K HDR content, which the Olympics will be offering, depending on service provider.

On that ^ note, no winter Olympics HDR techno info at all today?
I was thinking that maybe some industrious OBS staffer at the games rocking a WFM could provide geeks with a peek into the peak nits measurement of the speculars, e.g. -





for the reflective surface of the man carrying the flag for Tonga in last night’s Opening Ceremonies - https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/09/sport...rnd/index.html

which apparently is heating up social media sites like twitter all day today. I know it's casual Friday, but still.....

[puddy77]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

But do you feel the need for a shallow depth of focus to center the audiences' attention on the person/object of interest? And, at what point does it all become too much in this or that movie? So, I take it you personally don't feel it's overused in Altered Carbon?

I'm the wrong person to ask. I'm a photographer that typically shoots medium format and likes to dabble in 4x5 and 8x10 when I can. Honestly, I hadn't even noticed it until I watched an episode last night after you mentioned it. And then, I only noticed it in close-ups, which is expected. To me, it feels like a natural part of the visual language they've established on the show. I've always felt that shallower focus lends more to a cinematic style, while deep focus seems more documentarian.

Does it feel excessive or distracting to you? Did you watch Okja or Dark on Netflix? They also use the Alexa 65. Dark used the 4k crop mode. And Okja used the full sensor.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

But do you feel the need for a shallow depth of focus to center the audiences' attention on the person/object of interest? And, at what point does it all become too much in this or that movie? So, I take it you personally don't feel it's overused in Altered Carbon?

Why is it bothering you so much, or appearing to bother you so much Mr P? I love that shallow focus look, a lifetime of watching movies shot anamorphic on 35 is a good primer (especially when they shoot wide open which reduces DOF even more) and proper large format stuff picks up that baton and runs with it. Maybe it does get overpowering in a serialised format, dunno. I'll have a look at some Carbon and get back to you.

[PaulGo]

I just tried saying "4K Olympics" and Xfinity had two 4K HDR previews (about 15 minutes total) which looked and sounded quite good. The main events start tomorrow in 4K and HDR.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by puddy77

Honestly, I hadn't even noticed it until I watched an episode last night after you mentioned it.

That’s the way it should be.

Originally Posted by puddy77

Does it feel excessive or distracting to you?....

Not at all.
I was looking for an independent (2nd) opinion from another viewer (you).

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Why is it bothering you so much, or appearing to bother you so much Mr P?.....

It doesn’t , but I’m informed that on one cinematographer website, it appears to bother one or some.