Pioneer Elite BDP-LX500

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by TM2-Megatron

Other than the formats supported, nothing about how HDR will be handled yet.

The link to Panasonic Japan page does furnish some info. What are you looking for exactly? It's a Dolby Vision player.

See this translated link page

Click on the bottom right picture link

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In addition to the "reference" that enjoys the original image quality of the content, it has a preset that allows you to select the optimum image quality for each of the "LCD TV", "OLED TV", and "projector" monitors. Furthermore, by incorporating the setting for SDR / HDR for each preset, it is possible to discriminate the signal and automatically switch to the setting according to each signal. In addition, image quality adjustment of seven items such as reduction of video noise and adjustment of fine feeling is possible. Up to 3 images can be memorized for each item.

By operating the remote control, you can display information on the media and HDR on the screen. You can easily check detailed information on the playback disc and mastering information such as MaxCLL and MaxFALL for HDR content.

[TM2-Megatron]

Primarily, I'm curious if this player might end up having anything like Panasonic's HDR Optimizer. The information sheet you posted a few pages back mentions a "SDR/HDR Preset Mode for optimal performance for the display", so I'm hoping perhaps that might be referencing something that'll help tweak the HDR depending on the brightness of your display to avoid clipping, like Panasonic's feature.

[JohnAV]

XXL-PREVIEW: Pioneer Universal Disc Player UDP-LX500 - AreaDVD - 24.08.2018 (Carsten Rampacher)

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IFA Berlin isn't until Aug 31 - Sept 5 for more details

The UDP-LX500 has no smart platform for YouTube or Netflix on board, which we find welcome, since in almost all cases of practice already used the TV has the appropriate features. The Ethernet port on the UDP-LX500 enables streaming (video and audio, even 4K video streaming and hi-res audio) from NAS systems and DLNA servers.

[JohnAV]

Here a interesting LX500 haste review from StereoSound.jp

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[HDTV1080P]

If no streaming on the USA model then projector owners well need to spend around $100 for a Roku Ultra. No streaming does hurt sells of Blu-ray players when streaming can be found on a $50 Blu-ray player from Sony and others.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

If no streaming on the USA model then projector owners well need to spend around $100 for a Roku Ultra. No streaming does hurt sells of Blu-ray players when streaming can be found on a $50 Blu-ray player from Sony and others.

No blue tablecloth either.

[TM2-Megatron]

That translated StereoSound review seems to imply that the player contains HDR settings tailored for different types of 4K displays; in the case of the review they'd selected OLED.

[HDTV1080P]

The official model number is now the Pioneer UDP-LX500 and most likely because of inflation the official launch list price well be $1099.


https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/P...-LX500#manuals


According to the official Pioneer spec sheet everything else remains the same.


https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/e...@180815_HR.pdf

[RalphoR]

A bit pricier than I expected but it looks like a killer unit.

[sa5150]

It's a beauty but does this mean no lx800 version ? I guess even if there is it will be 2K now that the lx500 when up in price .

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by sa5150

It's a beauty but does this mean no lx800 version ? I guess even if there is it will be 2K now that the lx500 when up in price .

Yea less output jacks when compared to a OPPO, and now exactly double the $549 list price when compared to the December 2016 OPPO UDP-203. But this UDP-LX500 should be very close in performance to the UDP-203 once Widescreen Review magazine or Sound and Vision magazine does a in depth professional review (that is if they do a review).


Now if the UDP-LX800 is really released for $2,000. It needs to have 2 rear USB 3.0 jacks and 1 Gbps networking like the OPPO UDP-203. Also the UDP-LX800 needs 7.1 analog audio outputs with support for HDR10+.

[sa5150]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

Yea less output jacks when compared to a OPPO, and now exactly double the $549 list price when compared to the December 2016 OPPO UDP-203. But this UDP-LX500 should be very close in performance to the UDP-203 once Widescreen Review magazine or Sound and Vision magazine does a in depth professional review (that is if they do a review).


Now if the UDP-LX800 is really released for $2,000. It needs to have 2 rear USB 3.0 jacks and 1 Gbps networking like the OPPO UDP-203. Also the UDP-LX800 needs 7.1 analog audio outputs with support for HDR10+.

I would think that at 2K it would have to be better then a Oppo 205 and come with a headphone amp fully loaded .

[RalphoR]

It would have to have balanced connections and hdmi 2.1 as well. With 8k TVs on the horizon no one's going to drop $1.5-2k on a 4k uhd player without having future proof tech inside.

[Robert Zohn]

Balanced L/R stereo outputs are good for serious high-end 2-channel audio systems, especially when you have a long cable need.

8K TVs that we're seeing from IFA and I expect later this week at CEDIA are HDMI 2.0, not HDMI 2.1 as HDMI 2.1 chipsets for TVs are not even on the market yet.

Minor point, but Pioneer's new Elite BDP-LX500 will list for $1,099.

[RalphoR]

Thanks, Robert. When do you expect to get your hands on the LX500?

[Robert Zohn]

I'll see the LX500 for the 1st time in person at CEDIA this week. I'll know more about the product and it's availability by Thursday and get back with what I learn.

[HDTV1080P]

The first generation 8K displays well not be able to display 8K content and well be used for simulated 8K by upscaling all video sources to simulated 8K quality. As Robert mentioned the first generation 8K displays well be HDMI 2.0b. HDMI 2.1 is required for native 8K content (in theory around 2026 a optical disc or streaming 8K content well be made available). Maybe with a software update the first generation 8K displays might be able to do streaming native 8K but HDMI 2.1 is a physical hardware change therefore there is no way to get a 8K signal into a first generation native 8K display. The only exception to that is Digital Projections INC Insight Laser DLP 8K projector that is used for 8K computer graphics that does not use any HDMI interface. HDMI 2.1 should become a reality in 2019 or 2020.

4K Ultra HD well be with consumers for many years. We do not even have native commercial 8K movies in the movie theaters yet.

[sa5150]

Has the older BDP-LX88 ever dropped below the 2k price ? Something to consider if the LX800 ever does come out and make it to the USA .

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by sa5150

Has the older BDP-88FD ever dropped below the 2k price ? Something to consider if the LX800 ever does come out and make it to the USA .

Only companies like OPPO have their players price locked. Pioneer Elite products are launched at full list price, however in 6 months to a year they sometimes drop in price to make room for next years model. Sometimes a Pioneer Elite product can have a 2 year life span before the replacement model is released.


The Pioneer UDP-LX500 well be selling for the full list price of $1099, however as long as inflation does not increase to much, in one year from launch date the UDP-LX500 might have a street price from mail order companies around $899. This is all wild guesses but that would be a $200 price drop. But if inflation kicks in it could receive a new $1500-$2000 list price in a year from now.

[HDTV1080P]

Its confirmed in this Sound and Vision magazine article that the Pioneer UDP-LX500 well offer no video streaming like Netflix or VUDU. Therefore those that own a projector or older display with no built in streaming well need to spend around another $100 for a external streaming device like the Roku Ultra. That brings the cost of the plater up to $1,200 after one purchases a Roku Ultra. Sony and Panasonic 4K Blu-ray players offer video streaming. However Panasonic does not offer SACD and DVD-Audio playback.


The following Sound and Vision article is a interesting read:


"The UDP-LX500 supports high-resolution audio playback but isn’t equipped with video-streaming apps or wireless multiroom audio."


"Pioneer is bringing its first 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player to the CEDIA Expo, helping fill a premium-player void created by Oppo’s exit from the Blu-ray market. "


Read more at https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...V023qR1P0hy.99