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Old 03-10-2012, 08:31 AM   #801
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Just learned the JP BD also uses the new master on Transporter 2 so you can update that. That makes the JP overall winner
 
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Just learned the JP BD also uses the new master on Transporter 2 so you can update that. That makes the JP overall winner
Updated.
 
Old 03-11-2012, 11:13 AM   #803
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US - MPEG-2 23744 kbps 1.78:1, LPCM 7.1 6144 kbps 16-bit, BD50 (Region A)
DE - VC-1 21735 kbps 1.85:1, DTS-HD HR 5.1 2046 kbps 24-bit, BD25 (Region free) Extended cut
NL - AVC 1080i/50hz, DTS-HD MA 5.1 (Region B)
 
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Shaolin Soccer UK is region B locked.
 
Old 03-11-2012, 11:56 AM   #805
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Old 03-11-2012, 12:05 PM   #806
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US/UK/NL/FR - VC-1 22910 kbps, Dolby TrueHD 5.1 1464 kbps 16-bit, BD50, extras
 
Old 03-11-2012, 12:16 PM   #807
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Just learned the JP BD also uses the new master on Transporter 2 so you can update that. That makes the JP overall winner
Whats the running time of the JP Transporter 2?
My German BD has a running time of 1:33:48 Thats afaik ~3minutes longer than the french VErsion.
 
Old 03-11-2012, 01:19 PM   #808
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It is established there are only two different masters made for T2 and yours, french and japanese is the same uncut transfer besides using different codecs.

Yours is also exact 24fps (often with EU BDs) when the correct pitch is 23,976.

German, French & Japanese Blu-ray
- Uncut version
- During the opening credits (the first 6:52 minutes) it's little zoomed in, fuzzy and has the wrong color timing (after that it's identical)

I have 1:27:49 for DE disc and running time can be faked/different with logos, after text and such.

M2TS, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 2 subtitle tracks, 1:27:49, 24p /1.001
1: Chapters, 10 chapters
2: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: DTS Hi-Res, German, 6.1 channels, 16 bits, 2046kbps, 48khz
(core: DTS-ES, 6.1 channels, 16 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz)
4: DTS Hi-Res, English, 6.1 channels, 16 bits, 2046kbps, 48khz
(core: DTS-ES, 6.1 channels, 16 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz)
5: Subtitle (PGS), German
6: Subtitle (PGS), English

If you have different specs taken yourself from your BDdrive and your copy please post em

Forgot one thing. This comparison is very interesting but only DVD: http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=1875776 Would be very cool if the german blu-ray contained the same version special tv-version. Could you check some scenes?

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Old 03-11-2012, 01:36 PM   #809
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FR - AVC 31141 kbps 24fps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 2260 kbps 16-bit, extras, BD50, no eng subs (Region free) Unrated Best PQ though some text in french
DE - VC-1 18980 kbps, DTS 5.1 1509 kbps, BD25, no subs (Region free)
JP - AVC, Dolby TrueHD 5.1, Theatrical
US - AVC 25260 kbps, LPCM 5.1 4608 kbps 16-bit, BD50 (Region free) Unrated

Underworld: Evolution
FR - AVC 28970 kbps 24fps, DTS-MA 5.1 2354 kbps 16-bit, extras, no subs (Region free) Best PQ though opening crawl is in french
UK - MPEG-2 26490 kbps, DTS 5.1 1509 kbps, BD50 (Region B)
DE - MPEG-2 16426 kbps, Dolby Digital 5.1 640 kbps, BD25
US - MPEG-2 16426 kbps, LPCM 5.1 4608 kbps 16-bit, BD25 (Region free)
 
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List updated.
 
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I have the CA steelbook. Would it be worth it to pick up the UK version for the extras?
Are you talking about From Dusk Till Dawn? I was under the impression the recent Alliance steelbook has all the same extras as the UK.
 
Old 03-11-2012, 03:46 PM   #812
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Home Alone 2: Lost In New York
US: AVC 18.64 kbps BD25
DE/JP/HK: AVC 29.98 kbps BD50

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Home Alone 2: Lost In New York
US: AVC 18.64 kbps BD25
DE/JP/HK: AVC 29.98 kbps BD50
Is there a difference in PQ or are you just posting specs? I ask because all versions are still done in AVC and bit rate does not normally affect PQ in more than a miniscule fashion unless different codecs are used.
 
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Is there a difference in PQ or are you just posting specs? I ask because all versions are still done in AVC and bit rate does not normally affect PQ in more than a miniscule fashion unless different codecs are used.
Small difference but a difference, nonetheless.
 
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Small difference but a difference, nonetheless.
Entry added.
 
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It is established there are only two different masters made for T2 and yours, french and japanese is the same uncut transfer besides using different codecs.

Yours is also exact 24fps (often with EU BDs) when the correct pitch is 23,976.

German, French & Japanese Blu-ray
- Uncut version
- During the opening credits (the first 6:52 minutes) it's little zoomed in, fuzzy and has the wrong color timing (after that it's identical)

I have 1:27:49 for DE disc and running time can be faked/different with logos, after text and such.

M2TS, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 2 subtitle tracks, 1:27:49, 24p /1.001
1: Chapters, 10 chapters
2: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: DTS Hi-Res, German, 6.1 channels, 16 bits, 2046kbps, 48khz
(core: DTS-ES, 6.1 channels, 16 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz)
4: DTS Hi-Res, English, 6.1 channels, 16 bits, 2046kbps, 48khz
(core: DTS-ES, 6.1 channels, 16 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz)
5: Subtitle (PGS), German
6: Subtitle (PGS), English

If you have different specs taken yourself from your BDdrive and your copy please post em

Forgot one thing. This comparison is very interesting but only DVD: http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=1875776 Would be very cool if the german blu-ray contained the same version special tv-version. Could you check some scenes?
My Disc is at home, but I know at least an additional Version, wich was released first in german Television, and got later to blu called "Diector's Cut"
Here is the cut-report.
normal Version at Amazon.de
extended Version at amazon.de

But if you still not believe, next weekend, when I am home, a may do a complete BD Info scan of my Transporter 2 Disc.

Edit: oops, didn't read to the end.
To answer your final quastion: yes, the tv edit got to blu. First it was released just in a 3 Disc set, later it was released single disced.

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Any update on Elite Squad 2? I bought the UK version because of price, but was wondering how it compared to the new US version.
 
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My Disc is at home, but I know at least an additional Version, wich was released first in german Television, and got later to blu called "Diector's Cut"
Here is the cut-report.
normal Version at Amazon.de
extended Version at amazon.de

But if you still not believe, next weekend, when I am home, a may do a complete BD Info scan of my Transporter 2 Disc.

Edit: oops, didn't read to the end.
To answer your final quastion: yes, the tv edit got to blu. First it was released just in a 3 Disc set, later it was released single disced.
That's so cool. Would love some more info later on
 
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L.A. confidential (update)
JP - AVC 29870 kbps, DTS-HD MA 5.1 2028 kbps 16-bit, 2xBD50, extras (Region free) Best PQ and isolated score in DTS-HD MA 5.1
US/UK/NL/FR - VC-1 22910 kbps, Dolby TrueHD 5.1 1464 kbps 16-bit, BD50, extras
Hey Wesslan, do you have a link to a picture comparison?
 
Old 03-11-2012, 09:15 PM   #820
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Hey Wesslan, do you have a link to a picture comparison?
No pictures just a owners own comparison and he's well known.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...1&postcount=22
 
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