HDTVTEST (Vincent Teoh) Discussion Thread

[Robert Zohn]

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LG C1 (2021) vs CX (2020) vs C9 Comparison: Which LG OLED TV is Best? - YouTube

[tama]

Originally Posted by PUsokrJosh305

Clearly, Sony got it right this year!! It still bugs me though that Vincent always depicts LG's Dynamic Tone Mapping functions by pausing a scene and turning it "On" and "Off". From my own experiences with my LG C9, Dynamic Tone Mapping is more subtle/not as aggressive on what it does when the scene is actually moving vs. when paused (like what Vincent demonstrates in his videos). Don't get me wrong, I like Vincent's videos a lot! That's just my only nitpick about them though.

I think Vincent just called you out on that theory in the video above lol. Let's 3 different LG OLEDS play against a reference monitor as a demonstration.

Also tells me he views this thread

[PUsokrJosh305]

Originally Posted by tama

I think Vincent just called you out on that theory in the video above lol. Let's 3 different LG OLEDS play against a reference monitor as a demonstration.

Also tells me he views this thread

Lol! I did notice this. However, it's still not what I was meaning. He paused it, turned it on, then played it from where he paused it. Which, yes the DTM would be brighter initially. However, if he would have played that Chapter over again and allowed DTM to "settle in" so to speak, I guarantee it wouldn't be brighter but be about the same brightness as the reference monitor. I'm not saying he is wrong on the fact that DTM is inaccurate at times. However, I am saying the demonstration is not how it should be. He almost got what I was meaning though.

I'll never be mad at Vincent though. The man knows his stuff and I love how he did this 3 LG OLED TV shootout!!

I also mentioned my theory on his YouTube video comparing Disney + Dolby Vision vs HDR 10 so that's probably how he figured it out, haha!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by tama

a reference monitor as a demonstration.
Also tells me he views this thread

so Vincent knows - a compliment, albeit with supplementation –

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I recall that Vincent Teoh did a pretty good review on the HX310 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ee74qdPcmY#t=11m30s , all I’ll add is that there is HX310 panel variability with most of them calibrating at around 940 – 985 nits, few hit the 1000 nit mark.

plus, the HX doesn’t track the PQ curve exactly,
but rolls off a bit before the clip

[LordoftheRings]

Follow the money ...
• https://www.techradar.com/news/oled-...ni-led-screens

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by PUsokrJosh305

Lol! I did notice this. However, it's still not what I was meaning. He paused it, turned it on, then played it from where he paused it. Which, yes the DTM would be brighter initially. However, if he would have played that Chapter over again and allowed DTM to "settle in" so to speak, I guarantee it wouldn't be brighter but be about the same brightness as the reference monitor. I'm not saying he is wrong on the fact that DTM is inaccurate at times. However, I am saying the demonstration is not how it should be. He almost got what I was meaning though.

I'll never be mad at Vincent though. The man knows his stuff and I love how he did this 3 LG OLED TV shootout!!

I also mentioned my theory on his YouTube video comparing Disney + Dolby Vision vs HDR 10 so that's probably how he figured it out, haha!

You can disagree with him without being mad at him.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Follow the money ...
• https://www.techradar.com/news/oled-...ni-led-screens

link ^ isn't working for me, but I assume it is about microLED tvs, ergo on the topic of that -
Reza Chaji, founder and CEO of VueReal, Inc. - https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/vuereal

“I worked on oled display since 2004. I never forget the image quality of 65” TV we made in collaboration with a display company and later we licensed the technology to a major player (that technology is in every oled tv now). However, I have never seen anything like our microled. The potential is endless. I see clearly a change is coming. Sad to say but be careful oled tv.”

[Waboman]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

65' LG-C8 OLED
55' Sony A8H
Waiting for Micro-LED

A 65 foot Lucky Goldstar C8 and 55 foot Sony A8H. And here we are slumming it with inches.

[RalphoR]

Originally Posted by Waboman

A 65 foot Lucky Goldstar C8 and 55 foot Sony A8H. And here we are slumming it with inches.

I need a bigger house.

[PUsokrJosh305]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

You can disagree with him without being mad at him.

I know that. I think what I was trying to say was that although I disagree with him on DTM, I agree with a lot of things Vincent says. Plus, I want Vincent to know I'm not some idiot who gets on his video comments and downgrades the heck out of him. I just want a little discussion about these things. And honestly, I'm glad there is someone like him educating people about TV and Entertainment Technologies!

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

link ^ isn't working for me, but I assume it is about microLED tvs, ergo on the topic of that -
Reza Chaji, founder and CEO of VueReal, Inc. - https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/vuereal

“I worked on oled display since 2004. I never forget the image quality of 65” TV we made in collaboration with a display company and later we licensed the technology to a major player (that technology is in every oled tv now). However, I have never seen anything like our microled. The potential is endless. I see clearly a change is coming. Sad to say but be careful oled tv.”

That's strange Penton; it's from TechRadar.

It's about OLED, and MiniLED. These two links below (same article) should work ...
• https://forbestalk.com/news/tech/ole...i-led-screens/

• https://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/n/LG-Disp...et-on-Mini-LED

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by PUsokrJosh305

I know that. I think what I was trying to say was that although I disagree with him on DTM, I agree with a lot of things Vincent says. Plus, I want Vincent to know I'm not some idiot who gets on his video comments and downgrades the heck out of him. I just want a little discussion about these things. And honestly, I'm glad there is someone like him educating people about TV and Entertainment Technologies!

I know you respect him, but you concerned about how others around here will perceive you if you do.

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Apple TV 4K [Colour Balance] "Calibration" Reviewed on LG OLED, Samsung QLED & Sony LED LCD - YouTube

[LordoftheRings]

I was just about going to post that ^

Ok, instead I'll post a short humor intermède ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-j8...ature=youtu.be

[kristoffer]

Really interesting that Vincent says here that sharpness on LG OLEDs should be set to "0" to be correct. I just adjusted my B6.

LG CX OLED Best Picture Settings for PS5 Gaming - YouTube

[Scottishguy]

[Show spoiler]

Originally Posted by kristoffer

Really interesting that Vincent says here that sharpness on LG OLEDs should be set to "0" to be correct. I just adjusted my B6.

LG CX OLED Best Picture Settings for PS5 Gaming - YouTube

Yeah 10 isn't default. It's been shown to introduce edge enhancement, or something else sharpness related.

[PUsokrJosh305]

Originally Posted by kristoffer

Really interesting that Vincent says here that sharpness on LG OLEDs should be set to "0" to be correct. I just adjusted my B6.

[Show spoiler]LG CX OLED Best Picture Settings for PS5 Gaming - YouTube

Both 0 and 10 are both correct settings for sharpness on an LG OLED. The default value on LG OLEDs is 10. The reason Vincent says to set it all the way down to 0 is to truly eliminate any possible artificial sharpening that may happen on lower resolution sources (less than 4K or HD). When it comes to HD and 4K signals, setting it to 0 or 10 makes no difference. And even if it is sharpening the image on lower res signals, it's very small and hardly noticeable. It's really just personal preference.

[Pagey123]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

I was just about going to post that ^

Ok, instead I'll post a short humor intermède ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-j8...ature=youtu.be

Man, thank you for posting this. By viewing this on YT, I was suggested something I didn't even know existed: One Step Beyond. What a marvelous black and white show!