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Old 05-30-2018, 01:42 PM   #261
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The remote don't bother me, I've still got a spare backlit one that I bought to go with my previous Panny UHD player
I don't need backlit remote since I don't pause/skip nothing. Quick playback info check at the start to see if everything is fine and let the fun begin

And for basic operation the remote included is fine.
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Old 05-30-2018, 03:36 PM   #262
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I don't need backlit remote since I don't pause/skip nothing. Quick playback info check at the start to see if everything is fine and let the fun begin

And for basic operation the remote included is fine.
I mentioned the backlight as an easy way to differentiate it from the shite regular remote but basically I MUCH prefer the layout of the bigger remote. I had one of the cheapy plastic zappers with my BDT310 and I even prefer that to the current plastic jobbies because the layout of the buttons is better.
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Old 05-30-2018, 03:43 PM   #263
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I mentioned the backlight as an easy way to differentiate it from the shite regular remote but basically I MUCH prefer the layout of the bigger remote. I had one of the cheapy plastic zappers with my BDT310 and I even prefer that to the current plastic jobbies because the layout of the buttons is better.
Guys who are already own the 420 or 820 can comment on the remote but I guess they are the usual mid range ones.
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Old 05-30-2018, 04:03 PM   #264
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Hello

I already have my 824EGK working

There are no instructions in Português

but I'll search online

for now, has better picture on DVD than the SONY X800, much better even

very happy

De PORTUGAL,

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Old 05-30-2018, 04:07 PM   #265
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Guys who are already own the 420 or 820 can comment on the remote but I guess they are the usual mid range ones.
It is, it's one of the plastic cheapies with a great big NETFLIX button between the menu buttons, it's far too easy to hit the wrong button as I'm someone who does use those things when navigating to a certain point on a disc.
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Old 05-30-2018, 06:12 PM   #266
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Guys who are already own the 420 or 820 can comment on the remote but I guess they are the usual mid range ones.
Robert posted a pic (on the second page). Here's a link

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...9&postcount=21
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Old 05-30-2018, 06:15 PM   #267
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I think I'll grab one of ze german 424's, they're a good bit cheaper than the UK 420 at the moment (about £212 delivered vs £250) which is a retailer exclusive to Currys so there's little chance of that price coming down any time soon.
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Old 05-30-2018, 06:39 PM   #268
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I think I'll grab one of ze german 424's, they're a good bit cheaper than the UK 420 at the moment (about £212 delivered vs £250) which is a retailer exclusive to Currys so there's little chance of that price coming down any time soon.
The best o 824EGK


I bought it on cyberport.de, 420 €


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Old 05-30-2018, 06:42 PM   #269
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I don't want an 824/820
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Old 05-30-2018, 06:58 PM   #270
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Robert posted a pic (on the second page). Here's a link

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...9&postcount=21
I know but I meant build quality
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Old 05-30-2018, 07:23 PM   #271
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Since I've been sharing some of my findings from testing my UB820 sample and communications with Panasonic I thought it would be nice to post this chart and accompanying statement that came with the image.



"The UB820 is equipped with a 4K High Precision Chroma Processing, which is our new original 4K-ready engine incorporating technologies cultivated by the Panasonic Hollywood Laboratory (PHL), our R&D base for high-image-quality Blu-ray. Decoded 4K (4:2:0) signals are interpolated* by original multi-tap processing to 4:4:4 to achieve clear, natural, three-dimensional 4K images."
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Old 05-30-2018, 07:27 PM   #272
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...which comes at the expense of oversharpened chroma.
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Old 05-30-2018, 08:01 PM   #273
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Not sure you'll see any over-sharpening, but it should not be an issue anyway as you set the chroma sampling as you like, e.g. 4.2.0, 4.2.2 or 4.4.4 for BD discs and IP streaming.

Panasonic has a long history of being the best in video processing and that goes for Panasonic's Hollywood division, TV Broadcast professional business and their high-end consumer video products. Many users say the predecessor UB900 BD player delivers the best image performance of all BD players and Panasonic OLED TVs are also considered the best, due to the processing.

I think this is an area where everyone wins!
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Old 05-30-2018, 08:19 PM   #274
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Not sure you'll see any over-sharpening, but it should not be an issue anyway as you set the chroma sampling as you like, e.g. 4.2.0, 4.2.2 or 4.4.4 for BD discs and IP streaming.

Panasonic has a long history of being the best in video processing and that goes for Panasonic's Hollywood division, TV Broadcast professional business and their high-end consumer video products. Many users say the predecessor UB900 BD player delivers the best image performance of all BD players and Panasonic OLED TVs are also considered the best, due to the processing.

I think this is an area where everyone wins!
You don't even sell Panasonic OLED's so why the marketing comments? Hoping for exclusives?
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Old 05-30-2018, 08:23 PM   #275
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great info Robert! not sure why members like giving you a hard time. Glad you keep on trucking though.
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You don't even sell Panasonic OLED's so why the marketing comments? Hoping for exclusives?
I could be wrong, but aren't the Panasonic OLED units not available in the states?

I thought they were only sold overseas...
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Not sure you'll see any over-sharpening, but it should not be an issue anyway as you set the chroma sampling as you like, e.g. 4.2.0, 4.2.2 or 4.4.4 for BD discs and IP streaming.

Panasonic has a long history of being the best in video processing and that goes for Panasonic's Hollywood division, TV Broadcast professional business and their high-end consumer video products. Many users say the predecessor UB900 BD player delivers the best image performance of all BD players and Panasonic OLED TVs are also considered the best, due to the processing.

I think this is an area where everyone wins!
Doesn't matter as to what chroma subsampling you set, the chroma is grossly oversharpened on the default chroma sharpness setting on their current players, causing ringing against areas of contrasting colour. Load up a set of regular colour bars and it should be quite apparent. And 4:2:0 only works for 2160p50/60 content.


On a separate note, they also broke 480i playback on their UHD players as well. Any word on whether that's been fixed for this latest generation?
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Doesn't matter as to what chroma subsampling you set, the chroma is grossly oversharpened on the default chroma sharpness setting on their current players, causing ringing against areas of contrasting colour. Load up a set of regular colour bars and it should be quite apparent. And 4:2:0 only works for 2160p50/60 content.


On a separate note, they also broke 480i playback on their UHD players as well. Any word on whether that's been fixed for this latest generation?
You mean edge correction doesn't fix it on yours?

If you care about 480i or other media, get a OPPO, if you want the best Blu-ray/UHD image, get a Panny.
Want DV now get a OPPO.
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Old 05-30-2018, 08:35 PM   #279
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I could be wrong, but aren't the Panasonic OLED units not available in the states?

I thought they were only sold overseas...
Thats true, but they are available in Canada though. Panasonic recently has always sold to UK and like, and EU before the products make it to the states. Panasonic TV's got kinda chastised out of USA store chains with the demise of selling plasma too long.
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Old 05-30-2018, 08:48 PM   #280
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You don't even sell Panasonic OLED's so why the marketing comments? Hoping for exclusives?
Because he is right; I've seen them with my own eyes.
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