Panasonic UB820/UB9000 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[RodChester]

Originally Posted by curlyjive

Anyone else have freezes playing black hawk down? Mine would freeze everything 15 minutes or so. I ordered a replacement disc, but I saw on other forums people having freezing with that disc and the 820

I didn’t have any issues when I watched my copy.

[sapiendut]

I will check. I played the BHD disc on my 9000 with no problem. I’ll try tonight playing it on my 820

[curlyjive]

I have a new copy from amazon to try, but if it is a bad batch of copies it might have the same problem.

Is there a good way to get this kind of information to Panasonic?

[Daunty]

I've just purchased the 820. Love it so far. I'm using it on an Oled C7. Any recommended settings you guys can give me? Thanks!

[sapiendut]

Just set the player to OLED, then while playing an HDR movie, press option on the remote and set HDR Optimizer to “ON” position.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

That's one of the reasons the 820 is so popular... solid HDR to SDR conversion.

The Pioneer LX500 too, from pro reviews. ... Very good HDR > SDR
Most people don't need it, but for who who do it's an advantage.

The Panasonic 820 is extremely popular mainly because ... Optimizer.
HDR > SDR is only secondary ...for people with 1080p displays ... a smart move from Panasonic thinking about everyone.
Other manufacturers can learn something here from Panasonic in 2019 on those aspects, but primarily the Optimizer...its main essence for videophiles.

[AOD]

Originally Posted by cjake

Robert, you seem to have the EB (Great Britain) version of the UB9000 operating manual on the Value Electronics site.

The Great Britain and European versions of the UB9000 include a different remote than the US/Canada versions.

The N2QAYA000175 remote is included with the US and Canadian version of the UB9000.
The N2QAYA000172 remote is included with the Great Britain and European versions.

In an earlier post I mentioned that I purchased a N2QAYA000172 remote from a Spanish online shop. It works fine with my US version of the UB820.

One difference between the two remotes is that the 172 has -10 and +60 second manual Skip buttons while the 175 does not. So in that way I prefer the European remote as I use -10 second backward skip quite often.

If you want to update the website with a US/Canadian version of the operating manual, I found one at this link:

http://help.panasonic.ca/viewing/ALL...5/TQBS0285.pdf

Both operating manuals have diagrams of the remote that will identify the button differences between the two.

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Thank you cjake!

When I put up the UB9000 user manual the only choice in English was the UK manual. I'll update my UB9000 webpage with the USA user manual.

Robert, any word on getting the UB9000 remotes separately so I can have it to go with my UB820...the N2QAYA000175? I know a while back you said they were pricey and were looking to get them cheaper, but I haven't seen any word since. I'll gladly pay an extra couple bucks if you were to offer them. The small increase in price is fine and I'll pay it...I just can't find them anywhere.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by PissedOffPeoN

I heard that's the source problem of the disc when sparechange reviewed it.

I did not hear that in his review.

[cgpublic]

Originally Posted by eddievanhalen

I have a 1000 Euros 49" Samsung TV, a low end set on my book, I doubt but one can never be sure, that my Samsung set has the kind and quality of processing of your high end set.

Listen, I am aware of how happy you are with the Panny 420, but my advisement is to sell both the Sammy and the Panny, buy mid-tier FALD LCD with DV along with a cheap UHD player with DV, then pocket the better picture, and the change.

Trust me when I tell you, everything other than DV and/or 12-bit is nothing more than a detour leading to a dead-end.

[DVD Josh]

I notice that one of the benefits of this player is 4:4:4 chroma upsampling. But isn't that really just a function of the display capabilities (and does it even really matter for movie content vs. 4:2:2 or 4:2:0)? Just learning more about this and trying to get a better knowledge base.

[sapiendut]

No. Chroma upsampling can be done both on the display side or the player side. You choose which one looks better to you. Most people, however, choose Panasonic’s chroma upsampling as opposed to their display (panel or projector)

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by cgpublic

Listen, I am aware of how happy you are with the Panny 420, but my advisement is to sell both the Sammy and the Panny, buy mid-tier FALD LCD with DV along with a cheap UHD player with DV, then pocket the better picture, and the change.

Trust me when I tell you, everything other than DV and/or 12-bit is nothing more than a detour leading to a dead-end.

Sounds like you never actually tried the Panasonic player on a properly calibrated display and A/B it between Panasonic vs other players.

[Mobe1969]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

The Pioneer LX500 too, from pro reviews. ... Very good HDR > SDR
Most people don't need it, but for who who do it's an advantage.

The Panasonic 820 is extremely popular mainly because ... Optimizer.
HDR > SDR is only secondary ...for people with 1080p displays ... a smart move from Panasonic thinking about everyone.
Other manufacturers can learn something here from Panasonic in 2019 on those aspects, but primarily the Optimizer...its main essence for videophiles.

In this bright display era, the Panasonic has subtitle shift and luminance control. The pioneer from what 8 can gather doesn't even have shift. I wouldn't buy it if half the price of the 9000. Even the tone mapping on the pio seems rudimentary.

[sapiendut]

Also the Pioneer never claim to have reference PQ, they market it as “Audiophile Universal Player”

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Mobe1969

In this bright display era, the Panasonic has subtitle shift and luminance control. The pioneer from what 8 can gather doesn't even have shift. I wouldn't buy it if half the price of the 9000. Even the tone mapping on the pio seems rudimentary.

I've only mentioned the Pioneer player because of its very good HDR > SDR function.
That's all. ...Similar down conversion performance of the Panasonic players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsks...ature=youtu.be

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https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...-player-review
• https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...-player-review

[sapiendut]

And if you don’t have projector, the optimizer functionality on Pioneer should suffice

[LordoftheRings]

...And it costs more than twice what the 820 costs. ...Just buy two Panasonic 820 players and save $100 to buy three 4K Blu-ray movies; Alien ($15) Black Hawk Down ($20) and Apocalypse Now ($20).
With the rest ($45) take your lover to diner.

[cgpublic]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

Sounds like you never actually tried the Panasonic player on a properly calibrated display and A/B it between Panasonic vs other players.

If you are suggesting that a superior TV with DV capability is not a better allocation of budget than a UHD disc player, in this instance one that costs anywhere from two to three times the amount of what a Sony X700/800 or LG UBK90 can be purchased (all three of which have been available for $150), you would be incorrect.

[sapiendut]

Just say whatever you want to say. Unless he buys a Z9 or Q9, he will still need HDR Optimizer. But what do I know, I’ve only been calibrating for more than 20 years

[cgpublic]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

Just say whatever you want to say. Unless he buys a Z9 or Q9, he will still need HDR Optimizer. But what do I know, I’ve only been calibrating for more than 20 years

I’m not sure I understand your meaning, just say whatever you want to say.

Setting aside projectors and addressing TVs, you either place a higher importance on the display or the player when determining your budget, it’s that simple.

What I stated was the $350 premium of the UB820, or $850 premium of the UB9000, would be better spent on a superior/larger TV.

So, you either agree, or you don’t. Taking in to account your 20 calibrating TV sets, whatever that’s worth now that FW updates arrive every few weeks and most sets have SDR, HDR10/+ and DV.

Furthermore, instead of calling the feature ‘HDR Optimizer,’ let’s call it what is, a tone-mapping function, which only works with HDR10, not Dolby Vision.

So, in effect, what you are saying is that Panasonic’s tone-mapping function should take precedence not only over every other technical specification including screen size and nits, but that Panny’s implementation is not only superior to Dolby Vision and every manufacturer’s own tone-mapping function, e.g., LG, it’s a ‘must have.’

In what way? I’m curious. Because, in large part, most viewers can’t tell the difference between 1080p and UHD, HDR10 and DV, so it must be something special.

I just hope it’s not one of those ‘things,’ where people start freezing frames and stating, “Now we can see the difference here in the sky.”

Of course we can.

Of course, of course... of course.