Panasonic UB820/UB9000 4K UHD Blu-ray player - Page 35 - Blu-ray Forum

cgpublic · 07-18-2018, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by evan201

Flagship products are not on sale on BF. Super bowl is a better time to buy the good stuff.

The Super Bowl is a good time to buy TVs that are about to be replaced. Sometimes Black Friday is the cheapest time to buy, sometimes not, and there is certainly a ton of junk on sale, but players are often used as loss leaders.

That said, there is no point in not waiting until BF if both players should have the update by end of October. If the the updates are not done, or are flaky, or the products are not on sale, well then you weigh the cost/savings to buy or hold.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 07-18-2018, 05:33 PM

Which AVR Brands have announced HDR10+ passthru firmware is forth-coming? Royalty-Free would attract most the Majors right?

I'm thinking ahead for my next AVR. Gather must look for HDMI 2.1, HDR10+, Sony Low Latency DV, HDR10, DV as important for the video pass-thrus

Robert Zohn · 07-18-2018, 06:49 PM

If you want all of the specs you listed, if we're lucky you might see an audio receiver in 2020.

Kris Deering · 07-18-2018, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

Which AVR Brands have announced HDR10+ passthru firmware is forth-coming? Royalty-Free would attract most the Majors right?

I'm thinking ahead for my next AVR. Gather must look for HDMI 2.1, HDR10+, Sony Low Latency DV, HDR10, DV as important for the video pass-thrus

If they can pass thru DV than HDR10+ shouldn't be an issue. The only thing that prevents these things from passing is AVRs that change the colorspace for their overlays and such, which in turn changes the video stream. But if they can pass DV, it should not be an issue.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 07-18-2018, 07:18 PM

Im not interested for 8K video passthru. In AVR.
Want the bandwidth increase from HDMI 2.1 for 4K media.

Does that make before year 2020 for buying my new AVR possible?

Robert Zohn · 07-18-2018, 07:20 PM

The main reason I suggested 2020 is to have HDMI 2.1 chipsets in the market.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 07-18-2018, 07:51 PM

Robert Zohn.

Decisions for some of us may come sooner.

Seems So much will be at front door sooner than later.
Before year 2020.

https://www.avnirvana.com/threads/hd...receiver.2632/

HDMI 2.1 Bandwidth will glorify PQ from UB820, UB9000

pathfinder2810 · 07-18-2018, 07:56 PM

Hdmi 2.1? Full or draft?

JohnAV · 07-18-2018, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

HDMI 2.1 Bandwidth will glorify PQ from UB820, UB9000

No it won't.

Robert Zohn · 07-18-2018, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

Robert Zohn.

Decisions for some of us may come sooner.

Seems So much will be at front door sooner than later.
Before year 2020.

https://www.avnirvana.com/threads/hd...receiver.2632/

HDMI 2.1 Bandwidth will glorify PQ from UB820, UB9000

Don't think Yamaha's RX-V385 or any audio receiver or any a/v device of any kind has a HDMI 2.1 chip. It is true that Yamaha had put HDMI 2.1 on the original spec, but they have since removed the HDMI 2.1 spec from all materials. Here's Yamaha's page with all specs.

It was Todd Anderson, site admin for AVNivara that asked Yamaha to confirm the HDMI 2.1 hardware and they would not comment and soon after removed all indications of HDMI 2.1.

As John said HDMI 2.1 will not help improve the picture or any performance in anyway on.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 07-18-2018, 09:07 PM

Robert Zohn.

I'm running 48 gbps Gz ECHOGEAR HDMI Cables between my UP970 Player and G6 OLED. Tho both TV, Player HDMI Ports not 2 1.

I see much improvements in PQ. Its the HDMI cable's bandwidth. I believe when any player or AVR receives hdmi 2.1 ports(Chip or not)... even more increased PQ will be seen.

Its for us AV Enthusiast to make that determination. Only via HDMI 2.1 Elements Audition will we individually truly know.

My ECHOGEAR 48 GBPS Cable audition cost only $17.
Being Home Theater PQ enhanced happy I bought 2 more.

I feel Audition with that cable with my future UB820 or UB9000 is warranted.

Robert Zohn · 07-18-2018, 09:17 PM

You could have HDMI 2.1 and 48Gbps on every piece of gear in the system, but if the content is created with the HDMI 2.0 specs you will not see any pq advantage in any way whatsoever.

With that said, it's nice to have a future proofed system, however, HDMI 2.1 chipsets have not even been manufactured yet so we're one to two years away from seeing any devices on the market.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 07-18-2018, 09:20 PM

Robert Zohn.

Like I indicated. I don't agree from my own hdmi 48 Gpbs cable(rated to 120 frames per second ) audition experience.

BTW. Crutchfield specks show for that AVR...

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Connections:
HDMI version 2.1 audio/video switching: 4 in, 1 out
HDCP 2.2 technology ensures compatibility with 4K Ultra HD sources and TVs
HDR-compatible for extended picture contrast and brightness with compatible 4K TVs and HDR-encoded content
supports HDR 10, Dolby Vision, and HLG

MEB · 07-18-2018, 09:38 PM

Haha, disagreeing with Robert is like arguing with God. Robert know his stuff.

Mark

JohnAV · 07-18-2018, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

Robert Zohn.

I'm running 48 gbps Gz ECHOGEAR HDMI Cables between my UP970 Player and G6 OLED. Tho both TV, Player HDMI Ports not 2 1.

I see much improvements in PQ. Its the HDMI cable's bandwidth. I believe when any player or AVR receives hdmi 2.1 ports(Chip or not)... even more increased PQ will be seen.

Gullible people buy into a cable being labeled as 48 Gbps for $17. At this time a reasonable HDMI premium certified cable and yours will have zero differences.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 07-18-2018, 09:44 PM

JohnAV.

It worked PQ better than the Premium Certified Cable I received in my OPPO 203 Box.

JohnAV · 07-18-2018, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

JohnAV.

It worked PQ better than the Premium Certified Cable I received in my OPPO 203 Box.

Other than a measurable transmission loss caused by defective coax in a 2 meter cable you should not be able to tell the difference. Even the stiffer 24 AWG vs the more flexible 28 AWG should be not effect digital over HDMI for 2m.

Robert Zohn · 07-18-2018, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E6AtmosVuduDV

Robert Zohn.

Like I indicated. I don't agree from my own hdmi 48 Gpbs cable(rated to 120 frames per second ) audition experience.

BTW. Crutchfield specks show for that AVR...

Thanks for pointing this out. Just spoke to my friends at Crutchfield and pending confirmation they will be removing this misinformation.

E6AtmosVuduDV · 07-19-2018, 12:51 AM

From the URL...

Quote:

A logical guess would be the first device might come out in 2018, and we might see a manufacturer introducing a product like an HDMI 2.1 cable before the end of 2017.

Its July 2018 now.

https://hdguru.com/hdmi-2-1-to-bring...er-experience/

Robert Zohn · 07-19-2018, 12:54 AM

Another great article by my friend Greg Tarr. Thanks for posting this.

07-18-2018, 05:33 PM	#682
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	Which AVR Brands have announced HDR10+ passthru firmware is forth-coming? Royalty-Free would attract most the Majors right? I'm thinking ahead for my next AVR. Gather must look for HDMI 2.1, HDR10+, Sony Low Latency DV, HDR10, DV as important for the video pass-thrus Last edited by E6AtmosVuduDV; 07-18-2018 at 06:30 PM. Reason: Finishing

07-18-2018, 07:51 PM	#687
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	Robert Zohn. Decisions for some of us may come sooner. Seems So much will be at front door sooner than later. Before year 2020. https://www.avnirvana.com/threads/hd...receiver.2632/ HDMI 2.1 Bandwidth will glorify PQ from UB820, UB9000 Last edited by E6AtmosVuduDV; 07-18-2018 at 07:53 PM. Reason: Finishing

07-18-2018, 09:07 PM	#691
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	Robert Zohn. I'm running 48 gbps Gz ECHOGEAR HDMI Cables between my UP970 Player and G6 OLED. Tho both TV, Player HDMI Ports not 2 1. I see much improvements in PQ. Its the HDMI cable's bandwidth. I believe when any player or AVR receives hdmi 2.1 ports(Chip or not)... even more increased PQ will be seen. Its for us AV Enthusiast to make that determination. Only via HDMI 2.1 Elements Audition will we individually truly know. My ECHOGEAR 48 GBPS Cable audition cost only $17. Being Home Theater PQ enhanced happy I bought 2 more. I feel Audition with that cable with my future UB820 or UB9000 is warranted. Last edited by E6AtmosVuduDV; 07-18-2018 at 09:13 PM. Reason: Finishing

07-18-2018, 09:44 PM	#696
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	JohnAV. It worked PQ better than the Premium Certified Cable I received in my OPPO 203 Box. Last edited by E6AtmosVuduDV; 07-18-2018 at 09:45 PM. Reason: Finishing

07-18-2018, 06:49 PM	#683
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	If you want all of the specs you listed, if we're lucky you might see an audio receiver in 2020.

07-18-2018, 07:18 PM	#685
E6AtmosVuduDV Special Member Member since:Mar 2017 Location:California	Im not interested for 8K video passthru. In AVR. Want the bandwidth increase from HDMI 2.1 for 4K media. Does that make before year 2020 for buying my new AVR possible?

07-18-2018, 07:20 PM	#686
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	The main reason I suggested 2020 is to have HDMI 2.1 chipsets in the market.

07-18-2018, 07:56 PM	#688
pathfinder2810 Junior Member Member since:May 2018 Location:Sommatino(Caltanissetta),Italy	Hdmi 2.1? Full or draft?

07-18-2018, 09:17 PM	#692
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	You could have HDMI 2.1 and 48Gbps on every piece of gear in the system, but if the content is created with the HDMI 2.0 specs you will not see any pq advantage in any way whatsoever. With that said, it's nice to have a future proofed system, however, HDMI 2.1 chipsets have not even been manufactured yet so we're one to two years away from seeing any devices on the market.

07-18-2018, 09:38 PM	#694
MEB Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2009 Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:151 Blu-ray collection:1446 DVD collection:71 iTunes collection:21 Trading Score:1	Haha, disagreeing with Robert is like arguing with God. Robert know his stuff. Mark

07-19-2018, 12:54 AM	#700
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Another great article by my friend Greg Tarr. Thanks for posting this.

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