Panasonic UB820/UB9000 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[Naiera]

Originally Posted by MarkGubarenko

I thought so too, so I've connected Panny direct to LG, and no such thing happen. Maybe marantz added something during passthrough, though it shouldn't because all onscreen options are turned off.

Better go around the Marantz then. If it’s making 23.976 into 24.000Hz then it’s adding a sort of judder to the video.

Choosing the 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 that passes through the correct framerate would also work. It’s not like anything is encoded at 4:4:4 anyway. You’re not losing anything by using 4:2:2.

[Naiera]

Originally Posted by pbz06

Going full cheapo may cause handshaking and snowflake issues. Going expensive without certification is just a waste and all snake oil. Cough, audioquest and monster etc. Stay away from that garbage and malpractice. If they were video game developers, they'd be pushing pay for service features and loot grinding.

I bought some UHD cables earlier this year that wouldn’t pass 4K but did fine with 1080p. They weren’t certified and the cheapest they had.

But still, if the hypothetical fitty cent cable worked…

[MarkGubarenko]

Originally Posted by Naiera

Better go around the Marantz then. If it’s making 23.976 into 24.000Hz then it’s adding a sort of judder to the video.

Choosing the 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 that passes through the correct framerate would also work. It’s not like anything is encoded at 4:4:4 anyway. You’re not losing anything by using 4:2:2.

Odd thing that marantz pass through 23.97 and 24 from Apple TV - without a hitch.

But yeah, I've decided to stick to direct connection. As for setting - changed output from 4K to automatic (since it upscales to 4k even 2k bd), and from 4:4:4 to automatic (since it still gives 4:4:4 on all discs I've tested - 2k or 4k).

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Sman

It's definitely not the discs as it's happened on a number of them and the same ones play fine on my PS5 and X800-M2. If it is the laser, that's pretty aggravating since I've only had it for a little over a year and a half. Before this, the player has been great and a major step up from my X800-M2. It's ridiculous to spend money on a premium player you expect to last years and have it go out in such little time.

Have you checked the player's completely level? might be worth picking up one of those boards for vinyl turntables.

[Sman]

Originally Posted by chip75

Have you checked the player's completely level? might be worth picking up one of those boards for vinyl turntables.

I have it on a spot in my tv stand. I don't see why it wouldn't be level.

[George.P]

Originally Posted by MarkGubarenko

I thought so too, so I've connected Panny direct to LG, and no such thing happen. Maybe marantz added something during passthrough, though it shouldn't because all onscreen options are turned off.

My understanding is that most (maybe all) modern AVRs do some level of picture processing that does not show up in the menus, so unfortunately cannot be turned off fully.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Sman

I have it on a spot in my tv stand. I don't see why it wouldn't be level.

It's worth checking.

[Gretiem]

UB 9000 on sale for $947 on amazon

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Gretiem

UB 9000 on sale for $947 on amazon

Yeah Best Buy has it too for $949. Took advantage of the 24 month financing option (Amazon has 12 months, but you have to make equal monthly payments). I don't know how much longer this player (or high end players in general) will be available, so I bought another one as a backup or to use in another TV room later.

[Jack Priest]

Originally Posted by Jack Priest

No luck. Mine was already set to PAL, so I changed it to NTSC and then back to PAL again, then turned the player off and on again, and it's still outputting 60p for the Series 7 discs...

Edit: hmm, not all of them. Discs 1 & 2 are playing correctly at 50p for me. Disc 3 seems to be the only one the player is outputting at 60p for some reason...
(Disc 3 was the one I noticed the issue with to begin with)

Edit #2: Disc 3 is now being output at 50p, hurrah! No idea what the issue was. Lol

It's doing it again, ugh.
This time, Disc 5. Started off correct at 50p, then after accidentally pressing the internet button and having to restart the disc and playing the same episode again, it's now being output at 60p. Restarting the player didn't fix it, nor did turning everything (TV, speakers etc) off at the plug and leaving it for a few minutes before trying again.
Then I tried Disc 3 (which was the one I was having issues with originally, a while back) and it's being output correctly at 50p. So then I put Disc 5 back in, and lo and behold, it's also being output correctly at 50p again.
I really don't understand what is causing this

[Member-425016]

Originally Posted by slimdude

Like I said before, people go out and buy an expensive, luxurious $2,000-$3,000+ 4K and 8K TV to impress, and then go dumpster diving trying to find a free, or the cheapest HDMI cable in world and pay $3.00 or less for it.

Your logic makes zero sense. IF there are the slightest of variations in the video signal, they would be utterly indistinguishable to the human eye for a "name brand" cable at 10X or 20X the price. You are paying for the name, not the image/audio result!

Best Buy must have loved you when you bought into the format.

"Let me introduce you to the Cadillac of HDMI Cables: The 'Monster Cable Ultra Fine'. Only $130 for an 8' cable. Trust me, you don't want to live without this cable!"

[Naiera]

That’s not correct, flimflam. If HDMI works, it works. If it’s faulty or isn’t able to handle the necessary bandwidth you’ll get no image, dropouts, very obvious visual issues, etc. There are no “subtle differences” between a $10 and a $1000 cable.

[sfmarine]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Yeah Best Buy has it too for $949. Took advantage of the 24 month financing option (Amazon has 12 months, but you have to make equal monthly payments). I don't know how much longer this player (or high end players in general) will be available, so I bought another one as a backup or to use in another TV room later.

Good call on purchasing a backup and you're absolutely right that we have no idea when exactly these players will exit the market. Amazon offered me 18 months financing which is rather tempting.

[riptor3076]

All this talk of "will Panasonic stop making players" is making me wonder if I need to fill a closet with backup players. With the number of new titles still coming out on both 4k and regular blu-ray I can't imagine it will become impossible to buy new players overnight. Studios aren't going to produce titles that can only be watched on a "dead" format so I think we are safe for a while.

[Member-425016]

Originally Posted by Naiera

That’s not correct, flimflam. If HDMI works, it works. If it’s faulty or isn’t able to handle the necessary bandwidth you’ll get no image, dropouts, very obvious visual issues, etc. There are no “subtle differences” between a $10 and a $1000 cable.

Right. That is exactly what I said. If it works, it works.

There are absolutely different cable types (gold plated for example) that are supposedly better with Electro magnetic interference. But like I said it simply does not matter in the makeup of the cable. What you see will be the same.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by riptor3076

All this talk of "will Panasonic stop making players" is making me wonder if I need to fill a closet with backup players. With the number of new titles still coming out on both 4k and regular blu-ray I can't imagine it will become impossible to buy new players overnight. Studios aren't going to produce titles that can only be watched on a "dead" format so I think we are safe for a while.

Not impossible, but I'd imagine we'll be lumbered with cheap players and ridiculously expensive ones (which is a long shot), there won't be any middle ground.

[sapiendut]

Unsubstantiated reports of “Panasonic will stop making players” is simply that. Unsubstantiated reports.

[moff90]

I finally got an 820 myself yesterday, which came with an interesting sticker:



Why would they retire when they dominate the market? Not like they have much competition anyway.

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by moff90

I finally got an 820 myself yesterday, which came with an interesting sticker:



Why would they retire when they dominate the market? Not like they have much competition anyway.

Exactly. They sold every player out of their factory unlike any other brands out there.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by moff90

I finally got an 820 myself yesterday, which came with an interesting sticker:



Why would they retire when they dominate the market? Not like they have much competition anyway.

Domination of a rapidly shrinking market isn’t as big of a deal as people might think it is. I hope they don’t cease production as it’d be a hammer blow for physical media.