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stockstar1138 · 01-09-2008, 07:05 PM

is more than 5 less than 7 what it says on the medal?

where are you guys getting this line from.

the pic is too small for me to see what it says in the medal.

TauHeel05 · 01-09-2008, 07:07 PM

Bill Hunt's column is UP!

Banjo · 01-09-2008, 07:07 PM

To Paidgeek or any other Sony insiders,

Right now, digital captioning is incredibly difficult to deal with for many deaf consumers. Therefore, many Blu-ray supporters decided to go with SDH (Subtitles for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing) which I really do like. However, I think it would be quite a great thing if people would take advantage of BD-Java by giving people more options on manipulating the look/style of the subtitles to make it more readable. The deaf consumers have different preferences and tastes in how subtitles should look. I noticed that such a feature is available on PS3 but it hasn't been enabled for any of the movies that I know of, so the feature is rendered useless if nobody is taking advantage of it.

You also have to remember that there are many deaf people who are slightly or legally blind but still can watch movies, but they do have a hard time reading the subtitles because some of them lack a solid background, or isn't thick enough, and the colouring of the font also can make a difference. For instance, many legally blind people prefer bright yellow markings on the stairs and yellow fonts on websites. That's why I'm suggesting that people should be able to manipulate the subtitles so they can read it better. Myself, I read them just fine. But I do know some people who find it difficult sometimes especially on smaller TVs.

Hopefully somebody will be able to do something about this. Warner Bros. is the worst when it come to their SDH style. It's the most difficult to read of all since the black stroke is rather thin and the fonts are white. So whenever they're in front of a bright scene, it's hard to read them. Sony and Fox are the best. Sony use a solid black background, while Fox use a strong black stroke (which I prefer to the solid black background).

Thanks for your time.

scoobiesnackarff · 01-09-2008, 07:09 PM

Yup, Bill Hunt states that Univ and Paramount ARE going Blu and that Univ might announce as early as Friday.

Alan

ezcobar411 · 01-09-2008, 07:09 PM

This is what I wanted to hear

The Don · 01-09-2008, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akbungle

post #2457 sorry don't know how to link it. figured it out.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=2457

I'll just refer to him as Stunt-Man Mike...

stockstar1138 · 01-09-2008, 07:10 PM

incredible! i hope bill is right. so we shouldn't expect to hear anything out of paramount til at least friday if i am reading things correctly.

elwaylite · 01-09-2008, 07:11 PM

Bill confirms what we've been hearing. Uni for Feb, Para could be sooner.

I cant wait.

Great to hear about HBO!

stockstar1138 · 01-09-2008, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elwaylite

Bill confirms what we've been hearing. Uni for Feb, Para could be sooner.

I cant wait.

Great to hear about HBO!

i can't access thedigitalbits from work, did hbo announce exclusivity too?

Woody · 01-09-2008, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoobiesnackarff

Yup, Bill Hunt states that Univ and Paramount ARE going Blu and that Univ might announce as early as Friday.

Alan

I am sorry dude, as much as I would like to hear that. That is not what the page said.

elwaylite · 01-09-2008, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

i can't access thedigitalbits from work, did hbo announce exclusivity too?

Yes they did.

Banjo · 01-09-2008, 07:14 PM

One more thing...

Sony, I was incredibly disappointed with the PIP experience on your recent release of the movie, Resident Evil: Extinction. The PIP experience was not subtitled in English and to make matters worse, the whole movie was not subtitled when the PIP was activated. I did turn SDH on (Subtitles for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing) but it was disabled when I enabled the PIP experience.

As I already have asked you on numerous occasions to make your Blu-ray releases more accessible to the deaf consumers in the area of special features. As far I am concerned, that expectation has not been met yet. What is really ironic is that some international editions (region-free) were subtitled in English (UK) meaning they subtitled it for the Brits. Like the hearing Brits would have a hard time understanding American English. Sorry for the harsh sarcasm, but you need to understand that it can be frustrating for me as a deaf consumer sometimes.

Fox actually subtitled the PIP experience on Sunshine. I was surprised since they never subtitle the special features. That's one area they still need to improve in but the PIP experience is a good start.

I hope somebody's hearing me out on this because enough is enough. I am sick of asking for the same thing the past 10 years and nothing is still being done about it.

JasonS · 01-09-2008, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoobiesnackarff

Yup, Bill Hunt states that Univ and Paramount ARE going Blu and that Univ might announce as early as Friday.

Alan

Uh no he didn't. He said Paramount might announce by Friday. Universal is under contract with HD DVD until the end of January.

elwaylite · 01-09-2008, 07:16 PM

If you put together all the insider comments over the past few hours. You see key things. Paramount is close, Univ should be Feb.

Time to be very happy.

darinp2 · 01-09-2008, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

is more than 5 less than 7 what it says on the medal?

where are you guys getting this line from.

the pic is too small for me to see what it says in the medal.

It says:

International 6 days trial
Founded 1904
Pro virtute et scientia

--Darin

scoobiesnackarff · 01-09-2008, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woody

I am sorry dude, as much as I would like to hear that. That is not what the page said.

Your right, my bad. I was mistaking February for Friday. I guess I was just alittle to excited lol.

Alan

RUR · 01-09-2008, 07:18 PM

Here are the relevent "bits":

Quote:

Alright... that's naturally not what any of you want to hear from The Bits this morning, so let's get a little update on the high-def situation. Home Media has confirmed that HBO is following Warner and New Line to Blu-ray exclusivity, as we expected. Things are still moving internally at Paramount and Universal. But at least for the moment, Paramount is denying that they're giving up on HD-DVD, and of course, sites like Ain't it Cool are latching on to that. So naturally, enthusiasts all over the Net are confused today. First, you'll notice neither studio is denying that they plan to go Blu - just that they're not giving up on HD-DVD at the moment. Second, look... we love the guys at AICN, including Harry. I mean that straight up, no bullshit. He's a good guy and he does a lot for movie fans online. But with all due respect, he's been a little bit behind the curve with regard to this high-def format war all along. So we'll leave it at that. I needn't remind any of you that before the holidays, Warner was still officially claiming that they were going to continue to support both high-def formats, and we all know how that turned out now.

We remain convinced that both Paramount and Universal are moving towards announcing Blu-ray Disc support soon, and we have real reason for that belief, not the least of which is that our sources in this situation are second to none - a fact which should be readily obvious by now. Announcements could happen tomorrow, they could happen next week, they could happen next month. We'd be surprised if it took longer than a month or two. We're hearing that Universal may not announce until February at the earliest, as we're given to understand that their contract period with the HD-DVD camp expires at the end of January. So everyone needs to just take a deep breath and relax. We know that's hard, given how fast things have been moving this past week. Rest assured, Paramount and Universal are going Blu, but sorting out all the legal details and organizing the logistics takes time. The Warner move was apparently well planned, but Paramount and Universal have only just started that process. They may or may not continue releasing HD-DVDs for a time - we'll have to wait and see. But retailers are now seriously pressuring the studios to go Blu, and we'd be surprised if many mainstream stores still have HD-DVD hardware and software on their shelves come next Christmas. I suspect that Paramount especially wants to be able to announce a few actual titles when they announce their Blu-ray support, and it takes time to get all that ready. Keep in mind that things have been extremely chaotic within the home video industry this week. So everyone just take a deep breath and try to calm down, while we wait for things to play out.

Bullseye · 01-09-2008, 07:18 PM

Surely Ken G will have to be sacked by Uni then.

juanleche · 01-09-2008, 07:19 PM

From the bill hunt column:
"I've got a good strong cup of coffee in hand"

Our insiders truly know their stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Bill was very tired when I talked to him earlier. He hadn't had coffee and he'd been running for 3 days. He's got a huge backlog to hit. I'm sure he'll have something up today

he's a really busy guy

stockstar1138 · 01-09-2008, 07:19 PM

im assuming this is paramount blu exclusivity not neutrality????

it seems like once jan. ends Universal is done with HD DVDs too.

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ezcobar411 Special Member Member since:Dec 2007	This is what I wanted to hear

01-09-2008, 07:10 PM	#2367
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	incredible! i hope bill is right. so we shouldn't expect to hear anything out of paramount til at least friday if i am reading things correctly.

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