Archived: Ask the Insiders: Judgment Day Edition

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

my guess is that he is talking about Viacom making the decision. I am guessing that he thinks DreamWorks would be a good first foot forward because it can be better PRed instead of "we where idiots to believe the BS and go with HD DVD in the first place" or "we accepted Toshiba's bribe but what use is it now that everyone has left this sinking ship" or any comment that ultimately means we made a bad decision 6 months ago. That starting with DW releasing some movies already on HD DVD it can look a bit less bad. For example it could be something like "Mister Blue and some other directors have repeatedly asked for their movies on BD, we decided to let them have their choice format, we will be Transforming their movie from HD DVD to BD"

Exactly……………. I hadn’t read your post until just now.

[gand41f]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Not necessarily.
Viacom could *allow* them to make a public statement first… thus setting the table for the inevitable main meal (Paramount).

It would all go down easier that way.

OK, so you meant SKG...never mind.

enjoy
gandalf

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by JohnAlden

If I was an Insider from Paramount I would let every know on the blu-ray forums that we are going blu-ray only in 24 hours ahead of time.

If I was a Paramount executive, I would be wondering what on earth Dune and George Soros were planning to do with that DW film library…….as I was happily counting my money.

[MerrickG]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

If I was a Paramount executive, I would be wondering what on earth Dune and George Soros were planning to do with that DW film library…….as I was happily counting my money.

I like the idea.

[JohnAlden]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Not necessarily.
Viacom could *allow* them to make a public statement first… thus setting the table for the inevitable main meal (Paramount).

It would all go down easier that way.

Well, would that A sight for sore eyes Dreamworks does go blu-ray tomarrow and says that they are spliting there Home Video devison.The Deal alows them up to release movies that are produced and or directed under Steven Spielberg. Mann does this sound like an evil skeem or what .

[Tulsa]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Not necessarily.
Viacom could *allow* them to make a public statement first… thus setting the table for the inevitable main meal (Paramount).

It would all go down easier that way.

And just when do you feel blu may be invited over for appetizers at that fancy eatin' table?

[Esox50]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

If I was a Paramount executive, I would be wondering what on earth Dune and George Soros were planning to do with that DW film library…….as I was happily counting my money.

Yes, we do need Gladiator, Road to Perdition, and Saving Private Ryan on Blu-Ray sooner rather than later.

I think I'm picking up what you're puttin' down, Penton-Man.

[OokieSpookie]

I think we are getting closer to the time for "Insider Thread : Judgement Night Edition" complete with Dennis Leary hunting down Universal and Paramount.

[danielpwnz]

Originally Posted by OokieSpookie

I think we are getting closer to the time for "Insider Thread : Judgement Night Edition" complete with Dennis Leary hunting down Universal and Paramount.

A+ Judgment Night reference. Haha. Emilio Estevez rules.

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by OokieSpookie

I think we are getting closer to the time for "Insider Thread : Judgement Night Edition" complete with Dennis Leary hunting down Universal and Paramount.

Definately a cool movie.

Logan

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Esox50

I think I'm picking up what you're puttin' down, Penton-Man.

You mean in regards to Dune and Soros and the DW film library?
Nah, the only thing I’m “putting down” there is temporary *consternation* for any red ants that may be reading us on a Sunday afternoon.

I believe Viacom retained distribution rights to the library for home video with that deal.

[frank_t]

Sony/PS3 Insider:

I'm sure this has been posted numerous times here and, heck, all over the 'net.

But just so you understand how important this is to many of us, I'll post it again:

WILL the PS3 ever pass bitstream or at least be able to decode DTS-MA internally?

This is important because it greatly affects my future purchase of another blu-ray player for the home.

And if you can't say, then at least say so.

[gandley]

Originally Posted by frank_t

Sony/PS3 Insider:

I'm sure this has been posted numerous times here and, heck, all over the 'net.

But just so you understand how important this is to many of us, I'll post it again:

WILL the PS3 ever pass bitstream or at least be able to decode DTS-MA internally?

This is important because it greatly affects my future purchase of another blu-ray player for the home.

And if you can't say, then at least say so.

it wont do bitstream ever, but we need internal decoding for sure now more DTS-MA titles are poping up.

please

man the wait for PARA and UNI will really suxx to be honest. i hates them yet i needs them.

[Esox50]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

You mean in regards to Dune and Soros and the DW film library?
Nah, the only thing I’m “putting down” there is temporary *consternation* for any red ants that may be reading us on a Sunday afternoon.

I believe Viacom retained distribution rights to the library for home video with that deal.

I thought maybe you were thinking that /alluding to Soros would force Paramount to distribute on Blu-Ray Disc. I guess I was wrong.

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by frank_t

Sony/PS3 Insider:

I'm sure this has been posted numerous times here and, heck, all over the 'net.

But just so you understand how important this is to many of us, I'll post it again:

WILL the PS3 ever pass bitstream or at least be able to decode DTS-MA internally?

This is important because it greatly affects my future purchase of another blu-ray player for the home.

And if you can't say, then at least say so.

Ok...I have never answered a question in the Insider's Thread, but I want to address a couple of issue before the new Insider's Thread is implemented. The PS3 will probably be able to decode DTS-MA, but it is going to be a long time, maybe a year or more. The BDA, the CE Manufacturer's and the retailers are in this business to make money. Sony, Panasonic, Sharp, Disney and so forth have spend hundreds of millions of dollars in blu-ray. There's got to be a profit. Corporations do not function to serve our needs. It is a mutually beneficial relationship in place. Who would buy standalone Blu-ray players from Sony, Panasonic, Sharp, Pioneer, Samsung ect if the PS3 were enabled with all of the features we desire that are yet not available on standalones? For any venture to survive there's got to be a finacial gain involved. Thus, CE manufacturer's need a window of time(from the moment that new features are released in standalone players to the time the features are made available in the PS3). For blu-ray to become mainstream, the companies involved in its promotion have to gain financially (in the long run). You might ask, "Well the PS3 was updated to profile 1.1 before standalone players (execpt Panasonic)" Answer: in the short run, financial loses are incurred to further the adoption of Blu-ray (I am sure that the Warner situation also came into play). The same answer above will apply for updating the PS3 to profile 2.0.

[tvted]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I believe Viacom retained distribution rights to the library for home video with that deal.

These might indiate otherwise:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...icle742531.ece

Mr Soros is buying the DVD and rebroadcasting rights to the films, two of which won Oscars for Best Picture. Proceeds from the sale will help Paramount Pictures to finance its $1.6 billion acquisition of the DreamWorks film studio.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/18/bu...ia/18film.html

While full details of the deal were not disclosed, Harold Vogel, a media analyst and the author of the book "Entertainment Industry Economics," said it was likely that Soros and Dune will look to get a return on their investment through licensing the film library's content on DVD's, cable and worldwide television broadcasts.

ted

[Nick Graham]

Originally Posted by BlueNeon

Ok...I have never answered a question in the Insider's Thread, but I want to address a couple of issue before the new Insider's Thread is implemented. The PS3 will probably be able to decode DTS-MA, but it is going to be a long time, maybe a year or more. The BDA, the CE Manufacturer's and the retailers are in this business to make money. Sony, Panasonic, Sharp, Disney and so forth have spend hundreds of millions of dollars in blu-ray. There's got to be a profit. Corporations do not function to serve our needs. It is a mutually beneficial relationship in place. Who would buy standalone Blu-ray players from Sony, Panasonic, Sharp, Pioneer, Samsung ect if the PS3 were enabled with all of the features we desire that are yet not available on standalones? For any venture to survive there's got to be a finacial gain involved. Thus, CE manufacturer's need a window of time(from the moment that new features are released in standalone players to the time the features are made available in the PS3). For blu-ray to become mainstream, the companies involved in its promotion have to gain financially (in the long run). You might ask, "Well the PS3 was updated to profile 1.1 before standalone players (execpt Panasonic)" Answer: in the short run, financial loses are incurred to further the adoption of Blu-ray (I am sure that the Warner situation also came into play). The same answer above will apply for updating the PS3 to profile 2.0.

I read this and Max's statements as such: Essentially what is happening is that CEs who care more about maintaining high profit margins with low feature sets have put pressure on Sony to quit giving them so much pressure to give their BD players the features they should have. This allows them to not have to slice a little off of their profit margins to put in features that at this point in the BD game should be standard. I'm hoping folks like Fox and New Line are at least trying to get the CEs to step up here - even after CES it doesn't look like all of the Blu-Ray CEs are treating DTS-MA support as the standard it should be.

[blu2]

Originally Posted by BlueNeon

Ok...I have never answered a question in the Insider's Thread, but I want to address a couple of issue before the new Insider's Thread is implemented. The PS3 will probably be able to decode DTS-MA, but it is going to be a long time, maybe a year or more. The BDA, the CE Manufacturer's and the retailers are in this business to make money. Sony, Panasonic, Sharp, Disney and so forth have spend hundreds of millions of dollars in blu-ray. There's got to be a profit. Corporations do not function to serve our needs. It is a mutually beneficial relationship in place. Who would buy standalone Blu-ray players from Sony, Panasonic, Sharp, Pioneer, Samsung ect if the PS3 were enabled with all of the features we desire that are yet not available on standalones? For any venture to survive there's got to be a finacial gain involved. Thus, CE manufacturer's need a window of time(from the moment that new features are released in standalone players to the time the features are made available in the PS3). For blu-ray to become mainstream, the companies involved in its promotion have to gain financially (in the long run). You might ask, "Well the PS3 was updated to profile 1.1 before standalone players (execpt Panasonic)" Answer: in the short run, financial loses are incurred to further the adoption of Blu-ray (I am sure that the Warner situation also came into play). The same answer above will apply for updating the PS3 to profile 2.0.

Just so I am clear, this is complete and total non-insider speculation on your part, correct?

[elwaylite]

Looks like the price drop on Toshibas has pushed them high at Amazon. I think the sooner we get some closure the better, people are being sucked in by these prices yet will find lack of studio support.

What I find intriguing is that HDDVD supporters love to tout that BD is an incomplete format and the players released are not final spec. Yet they discount their players to increase sales, knowing they have shoddy studio support.

Which is the greater evil?

[blindcat87]

Unless there is some insider info in this post, I completely disagree with the timeframe and I have an example to back my opinion up. Players with 2.0 and internal DTS HD MA are coming soon, and I think any withheld updates will come as soon as there is at least one example of a settop player with the features.

Look at the PS3's 1.1 update. It popped up very quickly after there was a 1.1 Panasonic player available. Sony has not waited for long periods of time for previous updates, why would they wait months and months for these?

Of course I could be completely wrong, but I don't see why the policy would change from past examples. Certainly we PS3 owners will have to wait, but I don't see why it would be any longer than it takes for a 2.0, DTS HD MA internal player to hit the market. Sony is playing nice with other CE manufacturers, but they are still trying to be competitive.

Chris

Originally Posted by blu2

Just so I am clear, this is complete and total non-insider speculation on your part, correct?