Do Isolation Tweaks really work?

[billt928]

I have a few things left over. I used them with my polk system

info from the Mfg. and a link on where I bought them http://www.sweetwater.com/c671--Studio_Isolation_Tools

Clean up the low end!
Auralex's SubDude HD is designed to bring the same level of acoustic isolation to your home theater subwoofer that the popular SubDude has done for your studio sub. When your subwoofer is placed on a hard surface, it vibrates. These vibrations can cause the sound to be unfocused and "flabby," especially the bass frequencies a subwoofer produces. SubDude HD is an acoustically treated platform covered in a cleanable black velour that matches any room setting. Tighten up the low end in your home studio with the SubDude HD.

Auralex SubDude HD Features:

• 15" x 15" x 2.5" platform
• Wrapped with a cleanable black velour to fit any room setting
• Prevents sound from transmitting through your subwoofer to surrounding surfaces
• Improves acoustics by eliminating vibrations

De-couple your speakers!
Auralex's SpeakerDude HD isolation pads are designed to bring the same level of acoustic isolation to your home speakers that the popular MoPads have for your studio monitors. When your speakers are placed on a hard surface, they vibrate. These vibrations can cause the sound to be unfocused and "flabby." The SpeakerDude HD package consists of a pair of acoustic foam pads with flippable angled pads to fine-tune the positioning. Not just for speakers, you can decouple virtually any electronic device such as laptops, DVD players, or turntables from the surface they rest on with SpeakerDude HD pads.

Auralex SpeakerDude HD Speaker Isolation Pads Features:

• Enough pads for two speakers
• +/- 4 and 8 degree angle adjustments
• Decouples speakers and other electronic devices from resting surface
• Improves acoustics by eliminating vibrations

Upgrade Your Studio Monitors for LESS Than $40!
Auralex makes a range of premium-quality acoustical products to optimize any room for great sound. Whether you seek to get the most out of your home or project studio, school or church rehearsal space, or pro facility, Sweetwater has the Auralex products you need to get the best results. Auralex offers absorption, diffusion, and isolation product packages to suit your room, no matter how big or small — and the results are fantastic. In fact, many of our Sales Engineers here at Sweetwater use Auralex in their own studios!

Once you've bought the best gear and acoustically treated your room with Auralex acoustics, what's left? How about improving the accuracy of your monitors with a set of the Auralex MoPADs! If you rely on your studio monitors for accuracy, the Auralex MoPADs from Auralex are for you!

Auralex MoPAD Features at a Glance:

• Acoustically isolate your monitors from their base
• Adjustable angles for personalized installation
• For use with other studio equipment

Acoustically Isolate Your Studio Monitors
With acoustic treatment from Auralex, you can design your studio to be not only acoustically correct, but also constructed to be airtight and very, very solid. Everything in your studio that vibrates contributes artifacts to your sound, so why would you let your monitors acoustically couple to a shelf, a rack, or the meter bridge of your mixing board (doing so automatically degrades the accuracy of what you're hearing)? And once your monitors cause whatever they're resting on to vibrate, everything else that's in physical contact with your monitors also starts to vibrate.

This is where the Auralex MoPADs come in. Auralex MoPADs provide sonic isolation between your monitors and whatever your monitors are resting on, Auralex MoPADs INSTANTLY improve the accuracy of your entire monitoring system.

Personalized Installation
The Auralex MoPAD wedge adjusters allow you to tilt the studio monitor (or any item to be decoupled/isolated) to listening angles of 4, 8, -4, and -8 degrees. Leaving the Auralex MoPAD wedge in place allows the monitor to be set flat - 0 degrees.

MoPAD Your Entire Studio!
Auralex MoPADs have unlimited other uses, such as isolating delicate electronics from vibration. The use of Auralex MoPADs under CD Burners, Laptops, Turntables, etc. is good, too, providing Auralex MoPAD doesn't restrict air flow. Auralex MoPADs are affordable, easy to implement, and really effective at decoupling your monitors - or ANYTHING in your studio - from your room and all its contents.


Auralex MoPAD Features:

• Acoustic isolation for your studio monitors and more
• Adjustable angles of 0, 4, 8, -4 and -8 degrees
• Color: Charcoal
• Each package contains (4) MoPADs - enough for 2 monitors
• Dimensions: 12" long x 4" wide
• Weight Limitations: 100lbs.

These are the panels I have on my walls

Beautiful and Effective Acoustical Treatment for Your Room!
The Auralex ELiTE B24 Pro Panel lets you add a touch of class while providing very effective reduction of slap and flutter echo. The 1"-thick, 2'x4' ELiTE B24 Pro Panel is a fabric-wrapped fiberglass panel that's built specifically for studio, rehearsal, and broadcast environments, while its attractive looks make it a great aesthetic addition to any room. This bevel-edged Class A panel has an 0.80 noise coefficient, making it as effective at taming your room as it is beautiful. If you want great sound absorption as well as classy looks, put an Auralex ELiTE B24 Pro Panel in your studio!

Auralex ELiTE B24 Pro Panel Decorative 2'x4' Sound-absorption Panel Features:

• 0.80 noise reduction coefficient
• Color: Obsidian
• Dimensions: 2'x4'x1"
• Fabric-wrapped
• Quantity: One

[Halcro 1]

I use the Black Diamond Racing cones and pucks for My CD , Amp And Pre Amp and I like the alot I aldo have a Dedicated Audio Acrylic shelf for the CD Player , and I love em .. The speaker deal sounds interesting .....I like to get a BDR shelf but they are kind of pricey even on Audiogon , but they work very good , A friend of mine has one and It really works wonders , I guess thats why they sell ASAP on AG

[prerich]

Check out the prices on granite speaker platforms http://www.oregondv.com/Granite_Speaker_Stands.htm and these are cheap compaired to others I've seen. It would be more cost effective to buy the stone, cones, and DIY.

[naturephoto1]

Originally Posted by prerich

Check out the prices on granite speaker platforms http://www.oregondv.com/Granite_Speaker_Stands.htm and these are cheap compaired to others I've seen. It would be more cost effective to buy the stone, cones, and DIY.

I really question using granite alone. It has ringing problems and if it is not the right thickness there can be problems.

Though they do not list them for this purpose, Adona Corporation makes their platforms out of a specific thickness of granite, with special adhesive that is adhered to a special MDF material. All the materials null each other out to supposedly result in no sonic signature. They use these platforms in their rack systems. Here is the link to the platforms and a picture:

http://www.adonacorporation.com/platform.html



The feet in the picture are not included in the platform cost.

Rich

[prerich]

Originally Posted by naturephoto1

I really question using granite alone. It has ringing problems and if it is not the right thickness there can be problems.

Though they do not list them for this purpose, Adona Corporation makes their platforms out of a specific thickness of granite, with special adhesive that is adhered to a special MDF material. All the materials null each other out to supposedly result in no sonic signature. They use these platforms in their rack systems. Here is the link to the platforms and a picture:

http://www.adonacorporation.com/platform.html



The feet in the picture are not included in the platform cost.

Rich

You are correct sir. That's why I went with limestone - granite does have a tendency to ring. I hear nothing from the limestone bases that I have (well I only hear the improvements in the speakers). I moved my speakers out just a bit further and I think I've got it where I want it now (if I had went AN-E, the speaker would work best corner loaded). I'm a pretty happy camper....for now !!!

[dobyblue]

The SubDude was too small for my Servo 15v2, so I went with the Gramma and ordered it from Sweetwater for $49 shipped, great deal.

The bass is notably more defined and harder to place, an tweak well worth $50 IMO.

[billt928]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

The SubDude was too small for my Servo 15v2, so I went with the Gramma and ordered it from Sweetwater for $49 shipped, great deal.

The bass is notably more defined and harder to place, an tweak well worth $50 IMO.

I was very supprised with how they changed the sound of the bass

[Beta Man]

Not "Isolation" really.... but have you seen the wool "surrounds" they're made to be adhered to the front cabinet of your speakers (around the woofer.... with the grills off of course)

Just curious if anyone had seen them, or even may have tried them

can't remember the person selling them.......

[JJ]

I need to look into the Auralex SubDude. Where's the best place to get it for cheap?

[JasonR]

http://www.amazon.com/Auralex-SubDud...6901247&sr=8-1

Amazon is an authorized reseller.

[JasonR]

Thinking about getting one of these for the A2...

http://www.amazon.com/Auralex-GREAT-...6901373&sr=1-1

[jomari]

check your local guitar center. they have auralex products there too if you want.

want to skimp out more? amazon or the link posted above to avoid taxes.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by JJxiv1215

I need to look into the Auralex SubDude. Where's the best place to get it for cheap?

I'd go with Sweetwater - same price as Amazon but you get free FedEx shipping.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SubDude/

[Fors*]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

I'd go with Sweetwater - same price as Amazon but you get free FedEx shipping.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SubDude/

This would work great for me since I have a ceramic tile floor in my basement. I am definitely going to look into some of these. Thanks for the link!

[liquidice]

I don't see why I couldn't just get some hard foam, and put that on my speaker stands which hold my studio monitors?

[Beta Man]

I have a piece of astro-turf from an old ballpark under my sub...... it's a temporary solution I know.... but it's extremely dense, hard rubberized foam.... My main concern is having the soundwaves travel through the floor.

[ozzman]

Ive read this thread and iam starting to think that this might be something i would be interested in.
Improving my system without crazy cost.

So have we come to a conclusion that tweeks really work?

[ozzman]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

The SubDude was too small for my Servo 15v2, so I went with the Gramma and ordered it from Sweetwater for $49 shipped, great deal.

The bass is notably more defined and harder to place, an tweak well worth $50 IMO.

Dobly,can you link me up to were you grabbed them.Were they from Canada?

[richteer]

Originally Posted by ozzman

So have we come to a conclusion that tweeks really work?

The answer is "it depends". Tweeks defiantely can work, but how much of an effect they have (if any) is system dependant. In some systems, other nasties will mask the effect of tweeks which on other systems would have a beneficial effect.

An example that comes to mind is speaker cables (playing with different cables is arguably tweeking). Someone who has a very coloured system with speakers against the wall is likely to declare that there are no differences between speaker cables, whereas in another system the difference between the two cables might be quite noticable, especially if the difference is in the bass and/or imaging.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by ozzman

Dobly,can you link me up to were you grabbed them.Were they from Canada?

I actually ordered it from the US as the exchange rate was really decent at the time. Now the credit card is doing 1.30 so $49.95 would be $64.93 which is about the same price as you can get it from any Long & McQuade store in Canada.

The closest store to us is Burlington - http://www.long-mcquade.com/?page=lo...&LocationsID=8

They may need to order one in.