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Old 01-09-2020, 12:01 AM   #111501
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Tebow didn't get to play before McDaniels got fired, but was the reason he got fired? That's not how the NFL evaluates draft picks.[/B]
I said it was ONE of the reasons why he got fired. Why can't you comprehend this. It's the second time you've misinterpreted what I originally said. In simple terms..Tebow wasn't good enough for the first round, Josh McDaniels thought he was and wasted 3 other picks to get him. Doesn't matter if he played for him or not. Bad move either way.

Here's an article (one of many) on the topic:

https://lastwordonsports.com/2016/08...ow-failed-nfl/

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His subsequent failure to latch on with another team is neither proof that he was or wasn't a good pick.
No it was proof that he wasn't a good QB (for the NFL). His mechanics were awful, this was known before the Draft. He had a chance to continue playing professional football at another position, but was dead set on being a QB and this is what ultimately put him out of the league.

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Lot of non football reasons for Tebow not being in the league anymore
And what are all of these other reasons he's not in the NFL anymore?
You said there are a lot of them.

And one more time, just so we're clear, Tim Tebow is ONE OF the reasons Josh McDaniels was fired.
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Old 01-09-2020, 12:13 AM   #111502
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The more I hear about this homoerotic lovefest between Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy, whom Jerry apparently kept in his love dungeon for 24 hours, the more I can see how hard it was for Jerry to let his ex-wif...er...Jason Garrett finally go, and definitely explains the quick rebound.
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Old 01-09-2020, 01:21 AM   #111503
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I said it was ONE of the reasons why he got fired. Why can't you comprehend this. It's the second time you've misinterpreted what I originally said. In simple terms..Tebow wasn't good enough for the first round, Josh McDaniels thought he was and wasted 3 other picks to get him. Doesn't matter if he played for him or not. Bad move either way.

Here's an article (one of many) on the topic:

https://lastwordonsports.com/2016/08...ow-failed-nfl/



No it was proof that he wasn't a good QB (for the NFL). His mechanics were awful, this was known before the Draft. He had a chance to continue playing professional football at another position, but was dead set on being a QB and this is what ultimately put him out of the league.



And what are all of these other reasons he's not in the NFL anymore?
You said there are a lot of them.

And one more time, just so we're clear, Tim Tebow is ONE OF the reasons Josh McDaniels was fired.
Drafting Tebow is the only stain you listed on McDaniels resume so excuse me for not seeing past your hatred of McDaniels and/or Tebow.

Nobody gets fired for drafting a player. They get fired when that player fails to develop into someone capable of helping the team.

It was actually a great pick for the Broncos because he helped them win enough games to lure Peyton in the off-season. You can use hindsight to push any narrative.

No team wanted the media circus that came with. Tebow had a lot of haters rooting for him to fail. The deck was stacked against him his whole career.

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Old 01-09-2020, 01:24 AM   #111504
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The more I hear about this homoerotic lovefest between Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy, whom Jerry apparently kept in his love dungeon for 24 hours, the more I can see how hard it was for Jerry to let his ex-wif...er...Jason Garrett finally go, and definitely explains the quick rebound.
Jerry Jones talked about his relationship with the Garrett family going back about 30 years. Eww.
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Old 01-09-2020, 02:12 AM   #111505
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Drafting Tebow is the only stain you listed on McDaniels resume so excuse me for not seeing past your hatred of McDaniels and/or Tebow.
I also specified in my second post that it was one of the reasons he was fired, something you still don't seem to grasp. And show me where I've displayed any hatred toward either one of them.

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It was actually a great pick for the Broncos because he helped them win enough games to lure Peyton in the off-season. You can use hindsight to push may narrative.
Too funny.

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No team wanted the media circus that came with. Tebow had a lot of haters rooting for him to fail. The deck was stacked against him his whole career.
You must be a Tebow apologist. No team wanted the circus that came with a below average QB (under 50 percent completion rating) with bad mechanics...you don't say. And lol at using haters as an excuse, that's all you got? Tom Brady has a lot of haters too, what's your point?

The deck stacked against him is absurd. 3 teams took a chance on him, more than a lot of other players in the past have gotten. Honestly this conversation has run its course and I've wasted enough time on this topic. We are just going in circles at this point. I'm done.
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Old 01-09-2020, 02:18 AM   #111506
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The Gisele™ makes so much coin is the reason why TB12 has taken a discount for several years. And in the past The Pats have used that savings to add some talent around him. I agree, if he stays I see him wanting a contract that's worthy of his resume.
I don’t see how Kraft can let him go, or what team can afford him? Brady is only going to what he perceives as a contender, would be my guess.

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NO is already saying Teddy is staying I wonder if it will be his team next year
With Thomas catching everything under the sun, New Orleans could move on from Brees and spend that money current players and/or add a few. Looks like a pretty good situation.
Maybe they sign Brady.
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Old 01-09-2020, 03:23 AM   #111507
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I also specified in my second post that it was one of the reasons he was fired, something you still don't seem to grasp. And show me where I've displayed any hatred toward either one of them.



Too funny.



You must be a Tebow apologist. No team wanted the circus that came with a below average QB (under 50 percent completion rating) with bad mechanics...you don't say. And lol at using haters as an excuse, that's all you got? Tom Brady has a lot of haters too, what's your point?

The deck stacked against him is absurd. 3 teams took a chance on him, more than a lot of other players in the past have gotten. Honestly this conversation has run its course and I've wasted enough time on this topic. We are just going in circles at this point. I'm done.
I didn't even know who Tebow was until he started playing for the Broncos. He made mistakes in going to the Jets and Patriots. Not gonna start over Brady and the Jets can't develop a QB period. Don't agree with his stance on college athletes getting paid either.

Lamar Jackson year 1 was actually very similar to Tebow, but one got to continue on and the other didn't.

It's done because your take of a late first round pick made a decade ago being a cardinal sin is idiotic. If anything this Patriots super bowl defense being wasted by an underwhelming offense is more troubling.
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Old 01-09-2020, 02:20 PM   #111508
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Thielen cuts his ankle in practice. Needs stitches. Hopes to play on Sat. Wtf. We're cursed I tell you.
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Old 01-09-2020, 02:41 PM   #111509
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Thielen cuts his ankle in practice. Needs stitches. Hopes to play on Sat. Wtf. We're cursed I tell you.
Cut ankle? Lol!
Trust me, that’s not cursed. Losing all your WRs. Now that’s a damn curse.
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Hardly surprising, Philly fired their OC and WR coach.
Hopefully they start hiring from the outside vs the inside.
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Old 01-09-2020, 07:24 PM   #111511
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Hardly surprising, Philly fired their OC and WR coach.
Hopefully they start hiring from the outside vs the inside.
Jim Caldwell and Kevin O’Connell a rumored for OC. Not crazy about either but would prefer Caldwell.
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Old 01-09-2020, 07:52 PM   #111512
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Is Pederson giving up play calling?
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Is Pederson giving up play calling?
Nope. Definitely narrows the list of candidates.

I'm fine with Duce Staley being promoted but I understand those who wants an outside voice. Ideally we could lure John DeFillipo back.
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Saints fans this week be like

I do get a kick out of this. The Saints had ZERO winning seasons in their first 20 seasons! Lately they've been a regular playoff team. The fans of the last 20 years have dealt with NOTHING compared to the die-hard paper bag wearing fans from 67-mid 80's. Poor Archie Manning....lol.
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Old 01-10-2020, 02:27 AM   #111515
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Surprised they haven't fined Clowney yet.
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Old 01-10-2020, 04:23 PM   #111516
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Surprised they haven't fined Clowney yet.
Would happen today if they do - friday bad news dump day.

But if they do fine him thats like admitting they made a mistake so maybe they wont.

Also since the wife is there too looks like mcd taking the browns hc.
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So Carson Wentz self reported his concussion, which is a good thing.
Josh McCown played with a torn hammy. I really hope Phillys unearthly bad luck with injuries this season, is confined to this season.
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I got all home teams this week, but I am baffled why every expert seems to be picking the Vikings. If one home team loses this week, it's likely that highly overrated Packers...but even then, Seattle barely got bye a injury riddled team last week.
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Yo rickah, wish my Edgar Allan Poe birds ( https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post15625628 ) luck tomorrow. Although, being a west coast transplant, I never forget home.
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Yo rickah, wish my Edgar Allan Poe birds ( https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post15625628 ) luck tomorrow. Although, being a west coast transplant, I never forget home.
Nice!! How are you doing Mr. Penton.
I thought motorcycles were blasphemous to you hardcore bicyclists.
Everywhere I go, I see purple. Could be the Ravens year.
I know you’re “retired” but please PM me if you come across any juicy LoA 4k gossip!
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