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Old 09-10-2014, 11:08 PM   #50941
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I'm not saying the Stallworth sentence was perfect, but at least something was done to him. Rice wasn't even a slap on the wrist.
Yeah, I'll give you that.
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Old 09-10-2014, 11:19 PM   #50942
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Lol I'm a goodell hater too, but asking for his job cause he didn't illegally acquire a video, lets be real. If he did do it, people would be calling for his head cause of abuse of power and not respecting the legal process and what not.
Nice try about the illegally not requiring it, New Jersey State prosecutor said the NFL was well within there right to ask for the casino to give them the tapes, and o btw it would not be breaking any laws in doing so. The NFL screwed up bad on this one Goodell deserves to be fired end of discussion. Either 1 of 2 things happened either he saw the tape then lied about it or they got the tape and he threw it away then lied about it. I find it very hard to believe that he was that out of touch especially with EMAIL AND Voice Mail confirmation the tape was recived.
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Old 09-10-2014, 11:23 PM   #50943
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Nice try about the illegally not requiring it, New Jersey State prosecutor said the NFL was well within there right to ask for the casino to give them the tapes, and o btw it would not be breaking any laws in doing so. The NFL screwed up bad on this one Goodell deserves to be fired end of discussion.
Not entirely accurate. I believe the NFL, like any big business is prone to do with a high profile employee, was wait for the leagal system to play out. The prosecuter is the one that only fought for a slap on the wrist. I'm sure that was plenty good for the NFL, so they suspended Rice 2 games.
So if anyone is going to lose their job, in addition to Rice, it's the prosecutor who totally dropped the ball.
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Old 09-10-2014, 11:44 PM   #50944
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Who would b the next commish anyways ?

Does an interim (do we know who that is now) take over until they vote for a new one ?
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Old 09-10-2014, 11:48 PM   #50945
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So he was spitting on her. Thats why she slapped at him before they entered the elevator. He needs to be made an example of and remain suspended indefinitely.
I think Goodell is done. It doesn't take an expert to see that he was lying during the interview last night.
His days are numbered with the new evidence they've found. I'll give him a week, tops.
I thought she spit on him. Can you provide a link where it says he spit on her
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Old 09-10-2014, 11:52 PM   #50946
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I thought she spit on him. Can you provide a link where it says he spit on her
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Old 09-10-2014, 11:57 PM   #50947
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I think another issue everyone is missing here is why the Revel?? The Borgata is the place to be!
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:02 AM   #50948
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This whole thing is being blown so incredibly out of proportion. What Ray Rice did was very wrong, but he is being punished very severely. Roger Goodell should not lose his job, and the NFL does not have any domestic abuse problems. If people want to climb on their soapboxes about a just cause, they need to look at other professional sports leagues. At least the NFL suspends their players when they break the law.
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:10 AM   #50949
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Ray Rice might have wanted to choose some different words for his first public comments...

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I have to be strong for my wife.
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:24 AM   #50950
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This whole thing is being blown so incredibly out of proportion. What Ray Rice did was very wrong, but he is being punished very severely.
Are you saying he is being punished too severely or his punishment is very severe and seems about right for what happened?
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:28 AM   #50951
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You know whos gotta be really pissed now....anti redskins people.

Havent heard a peep about it lately.

Rice has blown them off the reservation as it were.
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:53 AM   #50952
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I thought she spit on him. Can you provide a link where it says he spit on her
Rickah provided the link, but on the video you can clearly see him lurch his head forward both times he spit in her face.
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Old 09-11-2014, 01:01 AM   #50953
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He spent time in jail, did a shit-ton of community service, and was suspended for a full season.

Ray Rice did counseling and got 2 games.
I'm in agreement that 2 games was beyond lenient.

I'm just saying it feels like this entire issue in general is being overblown.

They made a mistake, they're taking the necessary actions to correct it and now everybody wants Goodell's head on a platter before we even have all of the facts sorted out. It's just the whole TMZ/mob mentality. Snap reactions without thinking. I want the truth, but it's like some of these people are just witch hunting after each tidbit is leaked.
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Old 09-11-2014, 01:27 AM   #50954
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I'm in agreement that 2 games was beyond lenient.

I'm just saying it feels like this entire issue in general is being overblown.

They made a mistake, they're taking the necessary actions to correct it and now everybody wants Goodell's head on a platter before we even have all of the facts sorted out. It's just the whole TMZ/mob mentality. Snap reactions without thinking. I want the truth, but it's like some of these people are just witch hunting after each tidbit is leaked.
If the league suspends somebody for 2 games and then sees evidence that either they didn't try to get or got previously and ignored, and feels like they have to increase the suspension to at least 1 year, heads need to roll. That's not acceptable, whether due to not trying (which Goodell has admitted they never contacted Revel because it would be illegal for them to turn over the video, which the NJ ADA has said is not true), burying the tape or "lack of institutional control" due to the tape not being passed up to Goodell. And in all of those cases, Goodell is to blame.
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Old 09-11-2014, 02:22 AM   #50956
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If this story that they did indeed receive the tape in April holds up it doesn't seem like Rice's indefinite suspension will stand.
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and the story keeps getting bigger, independent investigation

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NEW YORK -- The NFL says former FBI director Robert S. Mueller III will conduct a probe into how the NFL handled evidence as it investigated domestic violence claims against former Ravens running back Ray Rice.

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said in a statement Wednesday that the investigation will be overseen by NFL owners John Mara of the New York Giants and Art Rooney of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Goodell said that Mueller will have access to all NFL records.

The NFL's announcement came after a law enforcement official told the AP on condition of anonymity that he sent a tape of Rice striking his then-fiancee at a casino to an NFL executive in April. Goodell has maintained that no one at the league had seen the tape prior to Monday, when it went viral online.
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Old 09-11-2014, 03:49 AM   #50959
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Rickah provided the link, but on the video you can clearly see him lurch his head forward both times he spit in her face.
That's what my wife said when she saw it. It looked liked it but I wasn't completely sure. It was also reported that she did it as well. Hmm well if he spit on her before she ever touched him then he's 100% completely in the wrong from a legality standpoint. That means he assaulted her and he should have received a sentence instead of receiving PTI, which essentially means that the case will be dismissed.
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Old 09-11-2014, 06:10 AM   #50960
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Are you saying he is being punished too severely or his punishment is very severe and seems about right for what happened?
I would say the punishment is about right at this point. But the way people are discussing and pushing this is way too much. Frankly, I'm getting really tired of hearing about Ray Rice. People have done much worse and still collected NFL paychecks.
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