2025-2026 NFL Season Thread

[walruswarrior]

Originally Posted by Galactus

So you are saying... wait are you trying to say that the TD should still have counted even though the HC didn't call TO thus enforcing the rule properly?

Yes.

[DoubleDownAgain]

Originally Posted by walruswarrior

The rule was improperly enforced plain and simple. Seems pretty black and white. Oh and don't be a douche because you are incapable of comprehending that very simple concept...

Wow dude..

What is this 'rule'? and please talk about the specific of how it was enforced in the play in question.

[DoubleDownAgain]

Originally Posted by walruswarrior

Yes.

Explain to me how the ref should be able to know who is calling the time out.

If the ref screwed up somehow, and knew it wasn't the HC I'd love to hear it.

[walruswarrior]

Originally Posted by DoubleDownAgain

Wow dude..

What is this 'rule'? and please talk about the specific of how it was enforced in the play in question.

Is this really happening? I can't explain it more than I have. If you still haven't understood, then you are beyond my help.

Here ya go chief:

Chris Burke pulled the exact language from Rule 4, Section 5, Article 1: "The Referee shall suspend play while the ball is dead and declare a charged team timeout upon the request for a timeout by the head coach or any player (not a substitute) to an official."

But the referee, not seeing who was yelling for a timeout, blew his whistle, charging the timeout.

The Jets and Packers are each 1-1.

- Chris Mascaro

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by walruswarrior

Yes.

I see and it does make sense had they done it that way but I think everyone needs to take note around the league that the HC is the only one to call TO to avoid this type of mistake.

[DoubleDownAgain]

Originally Posted by walruswarrior

Is this really happening? I can't explain it more than I have. If you still haven't understood, then you are beyond my help.

No... believe me.. you are WAY behind ANY help.

Simple question, in the play that happened.. how should have the ref reacted when he heard the TO behind him? Split second decision...

[DuranFanWI]

I'm not a fan of either team but I watched it since I live out here in Green Bay (long time Panthers fan, sue me) ... but the Jets got royally screwed over on that one. Even my girlfriend (who is a die-hard Packers fan) was objective about it, saying she wouldn't want that to happen to any team, regardless of who it was.

Of course, the Jets pretty much gave the game away by letting the Packers get back into it, heck the Jets were up 21-3 at one point. But that Jets TD would have at least tied up the game and kept it interesting towards the end. Oh well ...

[walruswarrior]

Originally Posted by DoubleDownAgain

No... believe me.. you are WAY behind ANY help.

Simple question, in the play that happened.. how should have the ref reacted when he heard the TO behind him? Split second decision...

Chris Burke pulled the exact language from Rule 4, Section 5, Article 1: "The Referee shall suspend play while the ball is dead and declare a charged team timeout upon the request for a timeout by the head coach or any player (not a substitute) to an official."

But the referee, not seeing who was yelling for a timeout, blew his whistle, charging the timeout.

There ya go. There is the rule. Can you explain to me how the ref properly enforced this rule?

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by DoubleDownAgain

Explain to me how the ref should be able to know who is calling the time out.

If the ref screwed up somehow, and knew it wasn't the HC I'd love to hear it.

If they did a review and the ref knew the rule was that the HC is the only one allowed to call TO (On the sidelines) maybe they could have done a "correction"? They do it all the time for penalties

[DoubleDownAgain]

I didn't watch the game.. only saw brief highlights.

The only way I would agree with WW is if the Ref knew it was Marty calling the TO, then they might have a point. But even if that was so, plays get mistakenly called off quite frequently.

[walruswarrior]

Originally Posted by DuranFanWI

I'm not a fan of either team but I watched it since I live out here in Green Bay (long time Panthers fan, sue me) ... but the Jets got royally screwed over on that one. Even my girlfriend (who is a die-hard Packers fan) was objective about it, saying she wouldn't want that to happen to any team, regardless of who it was.

Of course, the Jets pretty much gave the game away by letting the Packers get back into it, heck the Jets were up 21-3 at one point. But that Jets TD would have at least tied up the game and kept it interesting towards the end. Oh well ...

Only a blind Phins fan can not understand this.

And you are right. Jets gave up 31 so they have to shoulder a decent amount of this loss. That INT at the end of the 1st half was the turning point.

[walruswarrior]

Originally Posted by Galactus

If they did a review and the ref knew the rule was that the HC is the only one allowed to call TO (On the sidelines) maybe they could have done a "correction"? They do it all the time for penalties

Not if it's a dead ball, which is what they called it. That's like when a player picks up a fumble, but a whistle ends the play saying down by contact, and the player goes to score a TD. They only challenge if it is a fumble. They can't challenge and get the points that are associated with that fumble.

[DoubleDownAgain]

Originally Posted by walruswarrior

Chris Burke pulled the exact language from Rule 4, Section 5, Article 1: "The Referee shall suspend play while the ball is dead and declare a charged team timeout upon the request for a timeout by the head coach or any player (not a substitute) to an official."

But the referee, not seeing who was yelling for a timeout, blew his whistle, charging the timeout.

There ya go. There is the rule. Can you explain to me how the ref properly enforced this rule?

But they changed the rule a few years back, to allow the coach on the sideline to call a timeout.

I guess I think your objection of them getting "hosed" is silly because it was created by your own coaching staff. Man up, if it wasn't for Marty calling the TO it would have counted.

[DoubleDownAgain]

Originally Posted by walruswarrior

Only a blind Phins fan can not understand this.

And you are right. Jets gave up 31 so they have to shoulder a decent amount of this loss. That INT at the end of the 1st half was the turning point.

Huh, not it put it on the jest because your harley riding OC called a bad timeout.

I have Cobb in my FFL so I was happy he did well.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by DuranFanWI

I'm not a fan of either team but I watched it since I live out here in Green Bay (long time Panthers fan, sue me) ... but the Jets got royally screwed over on that one. Even my girlfriend (who is a die-hard Packers fan) was objective about it, saying she wouldn't want that to happen to any team, regardless of who it was.

Of course, the Jets pretty much gave the game away by letting the Packers get back into it, heck the Jets were up 21-3 at one point. But that Jets TD would have at least tied up the game and kept it interesting towards the end. Oh well ...

Die-hard Packers fan here as well and I know (As well as your GF) what it feels like for a ref to blown a call (Failmary).

[DoubleDownAgain]

Originally Posted by walruswarrior

Not if it's a dead ball, which is what they called it. That's like when a player picks up a fumble, but a whistle ends the play saying down by contact, and the player goes to score a TD. They only challenge if it is a fumble. They can't challenge and get the points that are associated with that fumble.

Again, how should the ref know who called the TO? Should they devise a complicated voice recognition system?

[walruswarrior]

Originally Posted by DoubleDownAgain

But they changed the rule a few years back, to allow the coach on the sideline to call a timeout.

I guess I think your objection of them getting "hosed" is silly because it was created by your own coaching staff. Man up, if it wasn't for Marty calling the TO it would have counted.

What does that have to do with the price of beans? Nothing. There is the rule. Tell me how they properly enforced it. You cannot because they did not. That's it. End of story. Game set match. The Jets got hosed on that call to tie the game. The Jets however gave up a ton of yards to Rodgers and 31 points. The D has to shoulder that loss as well as the refs.

[walruswarrior]

Originally Posted by DoubleDownAgain

Huh, not it put it on the jest because your harley riding OC called a bad timeout.

I have Cobb in my FFL so I was happy he did well.

lol now who is being a petulent child because they are 100% wrong. Go away Phin fan. You should be more worried about getting dominated by Buffalo today.

[DoubleDownAgain]

Originally Posted by walruswarrior

What does that have to do with the price of beans? Nothing. There is the rule. Tell me how they properly enforced it. You cannot because they did not. That's it. End of story. Game set match. The Jets got hosed on that call to tie the game. The Jets however gave up a ton of yards to Rodgers and 31 points. The D has to shoulder that loss as well as the refs.

Wow.. you are f'ing crazy! lol

How should they 'enforce' the rule? Should the ref be paying attention to the sidelines instead of the field?

you keep ducking this question!!

ANSWER THE ****ING QUESTION CLAIRE!!!!

[walruswarrior]

Originally Posted by DoubleDownAgain

Wow.. you are f'ing crazy! lol

How should they 'enforce' the rule? Should the ref be paying attention to the sidelines instead of the field?

you keep ducking this question!!

ANSWER THE ****ING QUESTION CLAIRE!!!!

I've already answered it... He hears TO being called look to your left 6 in and see if it is the head coach calling it. It's not rocket science. Literally would take 2 seconds to do so.

I swear I feel like I'm communicating with this guy