They have him to thank for those pro bowls. And I am not arguing that they are talented. I am saying they were made pro bowlers because of Manning. If you ever really watched Marvin Harrison you would see he was not elite in any aspect. He was above average but put up elite numbers because of Manning. Those guys I mentioned were able to put up numbers similar in their stints as replacements because Manning just put them in the right spots and the balls right in their hands. The fact that he has basically been the head coach for his team as well on offense, and has never had a real good defense behind him just shows how valuable he is.
so Marvin Harrison 8 time pro bowler minus Peyton Manning equals zero time pro bowler?
so Marvin Harrison 8 time pro bowler minus Peyton Manning equals zero time pro bowler?
Are you related to him? We are having a discussion about best QBs of all time and you keep talking about Marvin Harrison. I don't know how many pro bowls he would have made without Peyton but it is definitely a lot less. Anytime a discussion about best receivers comes up hes never mentioned anywhere near the top 10. He is a good receiver who was put in a great situation of ending up with Peyton as his QB.
The argument against him is that the team was loaded on both sides of the ball and they assume there's plenty of quarterbacks that could have done as much as Aikman with that talent.
I would beat so, he was still always an HOF qb, but swap him with Marino and I doubt Aikman wins one (or even gets to noe).
DeAngelo Hall says it outright — Tony Romo’s ribs will be a target
By Doug Farrar
That the Washington Redskins will see the fractured rib of Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo(notes) as a target shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who understands the hidden game of football, and the fact that players with injuries are vulnerable on the field. However, what you don't usually see is a player who's completely unaware of the reality that the NFL is looking out for this kind of stuff.
That's where Redskins cornerback DeAngelo Hall(notes) comes in. When asked on Wednesday about the rib injury and punctured lung Romo suffered last Sunday against the San Francisco 49ers, Hall came right flat out and said it — if Romo plays Monday night, he will be in the bull's-eye.
"Absolutely. I want to get a chance to put my helmet on whatever's hurt," Hall said. "Romo's ribs—I'm going to be asking for some corner blitzes. If I know [Cowboys running back] Felix Jones'(notes) shoulder's hurt, I'm not going to cut him. I'm definitely going to try to hit him up high, so that's just part of it.
"If you know something's wrong with an opponent, you're going to try to target in on that. We're going to try to definitely get as many hats on that team as possible."
Um, yeah. All well and good to the realities of the game as we said — most players will admit off the record that opponents with obvious vulnerabilities will be attacked like injured deer in a pride of lions. Difference is, the lions aren't generally goofy enough to telegraph their intentions to reporters. And with the NFL more conscious than ever when it comes to injurious hits with malice aforethought, Hall has most likely put himself at an additional disadvantage in that any pop he puts on Romo will be watched with extreme prejudice.
When asked about his own approach, Redskins outside linebacker Brian Orakpo(notes) was less specific. "Obviously you can think of it like that," said Orakpo. "If somebody gets injured you want to go after the injury. But we're going to just play our game. We're going to try to get Romo down when we can. We're not going to just target the ribs and forget about trying to get the ball out or forget about trying to get him down and just hit his ribs. Nah, we're going to go the best we can to get him down and get off the field."
Also on Wednesday, Cowboys head coach Jason Garrett said that he think Romo is "doing fine, "He got knocked around a little bit on Sunday, but he's getting his rehab and hopefully he'll be ready to play for this ballgame. We'll take it day to day, [over] the next few days."
According to a report from ESPN's Ed Werder, if Romo does play against the Redskins, he will wear a protective vest made by Unequal Technologies of Kennett Square, Penn. The Cowboys contacted the company this week to inquire about protective technology for Romo and tight end Jason Witten(notes), who is dealing with bruised ribs. The Redskins knocked Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Michael Vick(notes) out of an early game in the 2010 season with a rib cartilage injury, and Vick has been wearing equipment from the company ever since.
When asked if Romo should go ahead and put a sticker on the rib that's hurt so everyone would know, Hall said that it wouldn't be necessary.
"He ain't got to. I already know where it is. We'll be all right. We find it. I'll find it."
And the NFL will find you, Mr. Hall. You can count on that.
Romo is dumb for playing, don't think this needed to be said but it was a known fact if he gets hit enough he'll go out.
Bengals players Jerome Simpson and Anthony Collins were detained by authorities after a package containing 2.5 pounds of marijuana was delivered to Simpson's Northern Kentucky home Tuesday, according to multiple reports.
Does this team ever go through a season without having someone arrested?
Jim Caldwell is awful, I hope he gets fired so Peyton can come back and play under a real coach.
Remember his awful time out last playoffs that had Peyton on the sidelines going wtf
I never understood why he was the heir apparent to Dungy after he retired. He was horrible at Wake Forest, he looks lost on the sidelines and I always maintain that he was a big reason why the Colts lost SB44. He rides off of Manning a lot more than Dungy did.
According to ESPN Dallas, Thursday's CT scan revealed that a small puncture in Tony Romo's lung has healed.
"Everything is on go as we would hoped it would be and expected it to be relative to his lung status," owner/GM Jerry Jones said. "That still doesn't necessarily mean he's going to play Monday night, but still that's on go." Romo has thrown a few passes, but he's yet to practice this week. Backup Jon Kitna has said that he fully expects Romo to play against the Redskins, likely with a Kevlar vest and a painkilling injection.
It's called 5 straight days of treatment, I doubt the hole was all that big to begin with. This could very well become Romo's second straight "memorable warrior" game. I think if he plays we win since I'm expecting us to force at least 4 turn-overs from Grossman, as in 2+ INTs and 2+ fumbles.
What is going on with football these days? No "performance enhancers" but you can wear kevlar and get pain shots before the game. That seems ludicrous.
Antonio Gates (foot) was held out of practice again on Thursday.
This is becoming a legitimate concern. Gates was obviously at less than full strength against the Patriots. A team insider told Pro Football Weekly last week that Gates can rule out being 100 percent healthy "for the rest of his career," as the injury has robbed him of the speed and athleticism needed as a vertical threat. Reliable beat writer Kevin Acee is giving Mike Tolbert (calf) a better chance than Gates to play this week.
It's called 5 straight days of treatment, I doubt the hole was all that big to begin with. This could very well become Romo's second straight "memorable warrior" game. I think if he plays we win since I'm expecting us to force at least 4 turn-overs from Grossman, as in 2+ INTs and 2+ fumbles.
Well then the Cowboys medical team should be in Iraq/Afghanistan healing our troops
I bet anyone a million dollars that Cam Newton will have another spectacular day in the air against the Jaguars secondary. When it's an away game, we make our opposing QB look like a Hall of Famer out there, but that doesn't mean Newton will get his first victory as an NFL starter.
I still like the Jags in this one and we'll forget about our horrible performance from Week 2. Blaine Gabbert will play conservative because that will be the coaching staffs decision while our running game will take us home to 2-1 this game.
I bet anyone a million dollars that Cam Newton will have another spectacular day in the air against the Jaguars secondary. When it's an away game, we make our opposing QB look like a Hall of Famer out there, but that doesn't mean Newton will get his first victory as an NFL starter.
I still like the Jags in this one and we'll forget about our horrible performance from Week 2 and Blaine Gabbert will be conservative while our running game will take us home to 2-1 this game.
Go Jaguars!
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