2025-2026 NFL Season Thread

[Moviefan1203]

A shame Warner didn't get in. With Favre an automatic for next season, I hope Kurt doesn't have to wait too long.

[West E]

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/...shing-20150129

Hilarious story i never knew about. The man on the left holding Landry's leg is Dion Rich, known as The Gatecrasher. He's snuck into over 25 Superbowls and has been on the sidelines over 10 times. He's even been next to the commissioner during the trophy presentation a few times (including Superbowl 1). Once he even rode the Broncos team bus to the game. He's 85 now but he even snuck into the Rams/Pats post 9-11 Superbowl.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Tony208

Kurt Warner didn't get in this year so I think he'll have to wait a few more years. Favre is a lock next year unless he unretires. Don't think they will put 2 QB's in the same year.

And if TO doesn't get in, it would be really unfair, he's my wide receiver.

I'd being loving life if TO never got in the HoF. Stats? Sure he's got them.
Personality...Team Player...he always feel short on those two items, and that will hurt his chances.

[Hatter]

Originally Posted by rickah88

I'd being loving life if TO never got in the HoF. Stats? Sure he's got them.
Personality...Team Player...he always feel short on those two items, and that will hurt his chances.

He was a douche but he never committed any crimes in his life. That's a lot better than several players currently in the hall.

[Ray O. Blu]

I can barely hear what you guys are saying!
The Falcons are piping in artificial crowd noise!

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by Hatter

He was a douche but he never committed any crimes in his life. That's a lot better than several players currently in the hall.

Yeah, if Michael Irvin can get in, then TO is a safe bet.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Hatter

He was a douche but he never committed any crimes in his life. That's a lot better than several players currently in the hall.

That is true. He was a dick of a teammate, but you never read about him in trouble with the law. Not sure what that is worth for hall voting.

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

Yeah, if Michael Irvin can get in, then TO is a safe bet.

Irvin has 3 championships to zero for Owens.

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Irvin has 3 championships to zero for Owens.

What do rings have to do with anything when discussing receivers?

Owens' careers stats are pretty damn impressive. Without a doubt, worthy of Canton.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

What do rings have to do with anything when discussing receivers?

Owens' careers stats are pretty damn impressive. Without a doubt, worthy of Canton.

I'm pretty sure rings enter the debate process, when looking at resumes for entry into the HoF, regardless of position. Rings & stats get you into the conversation. One can be used in favor of the other, obviously, but not having a ring is, without a doubt, a ding on the resume.

[Hatter]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Irvin has 3 championships to zero for Owens.

Owens has five first team all pro selections to Irvin's one. TO was also the only Eagles player to really show up for the big game and he was coming back from a serious injury that was nowhere near 100% healed.

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by rickah88

I'm pretty sure rings enter the debate process, when looking at resumes for entry into the HoF, regardless of position. Rings & stats get you into the conversation. One can be used in favor of the other, obviously, but not having a ring is, without a doubt, a ding on the resume.

Owens not having a ring will have zero impact on whether or not he makes the Hall of Fame.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Hatter

Owens has five first team all pro selections to Irvin's one. TO was also the only Eagles player to really show up for the big game and he was coming back from a serious injury that was nowhere near 100% healed.

As an Eagles fan, I'm not disputing that. Heck, if Philly had gone on to beat New England, I bet Owens would've been Superbowl MVP.
I'm just saying zero championships is a glaring omission when weighing who gets in, or not. I get he's #2 on the all-time receiving yards list, which is why were are even having the conversation in the first place.
I guess it's going to depend on who he's up against come 1st ballot, next year, I believe?

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

Owens not having a ring will have zero impact on whether or not he makes the Hall of Fame.

Of course it will. That's just senseless to think the voters don't take championships into consideration.
By your logic Kerry Collins should be in the HoF, he's 12th on the all time list just ahead of Montana?

[sycro]

Originally Posted by Ray O. Blu

I can barely hear what you guys are saying!
The Falcons are piping in artificial crowd noise!

Weird. It was never very loud.

Even weirder, the artificial noise coincides with the home record drastically dropping.

[sycro]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Of course it will. That's just senseless to think the voters don't take championships into consideration.
By your logic Kerry Collins should be in the HoF, he's 12th on the all time list just ahead of Montana?

SB rings only work in the positive. Undeserving people with rings will get in, but deserving people will always get in, with or without the rings.

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Of course it will. That's just senseless to think the voters don't take championships into consideration.
By your logic Kerry Collins should be in the HoF, he's 12th on the all time list just ahead of Montana?

Voters take rings into consideration for coaches and quarterbacks. A receiver's career is not looked at the same way as a Quarterback. I'm not saying that is how it should be done, but let's face it, quarterbacks get more credit than they deserve for big wins and take more flak than necessary for big losses. No, Kerry Collins should not be in the Hall of Fame. His story is a sad one for sure. Without his substance abuse, his career would have looked very different.

[Tony208]

Originally Posted by sycro

Weird. It was never very loud.

Even weirder, the artificial noise coincides with the home record drastically dropping.

Wow... can't even win when they cheat.

[Navster]

Game day finally

Who else is getting drunk today

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by sycro

SB rings only work in the positive. Undeserving people with rings will get in, but deserving people will always get in, with or without the rings.

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

Voters take rings into consideration for coaches and quarterbacks. A receiver's career is not looked at the same way as a Quarterback. I'm not saying that is how it should be done, but let's face it, quarterbacks get more credit than they deserve for big wins and take more flak than necessary for big losses. No, Kerry Collins should not be in the Hall of Fame. His story is a sad one for sure. Without his substance abuse, his career would have looked very different.

Well none of us, I'm quite sure, are NFL HoF voters, so we all are right in our assertions.
The only debate dumber than Academy Award, are NFL HoF debates.
As for Owens, we'll see when his ballot is up next year.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by sycro

Weird. It was never very loud.

Even weirder, the artificial noise coincides with the home record drastically dropping.

So, based on what you've said about teams being accused of cheating, does this mean you'll no longer support the Atlanta Falcons?
Cheating is cheating, right?