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Old 04-20-2016, 09:32 PM   #68181
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Wow, didn't see this coming:

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The Panthers announced they removed the franchise tag from CB Josh Norman. He's now an unrestricted free agent and on the open market.
Norman's only issue is that it's mid-April so he won't be able to get near the contract he could have at the start of free agency, but he should still be able to get a major payday.
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Old 04-20-2016, 09:46 PM   #68182
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Wow, didn't see this coming:



Norman's only issue is that it's mid-April so he won't be able to get near the contract he could have at the start of free agency, but he should still be able to get a major payday.
Talks must have really deteriorated with the Panthers.
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Old 04-20-2016, 10:10 PM   #68183
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As a Panthers fan, it came off as a shock. But looking at it, future/long-term wise it makes sense. Gonna need that money to lock down younger guys like Star and Short in the next season or two. Josh isn't young either at 28. Read he is looking to command $16 million a year in the 4-5 years range. Some team will pay him, but I'd be weary of a long term on a guy about to be 30 playing corner.

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Old 04-20-2016, 10:26 PM   #68184
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As a Panthers fan, it came off as a shock. But looking at it, future/long-term wise it makes sense. Gonna need that money to lock down younger guys like Star and Short in the next season or two. Josh isn't young either at 28. Read he is looking to command $16 million a year in the 4-5 years range. Some team will pay him, but I'd be weary of a long term on a guy about to be 30 playing corner.
He's a good player, but I do think his personality isn't for all teams.
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Old 04-20-2016, 10:31 PM   #68185
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Armchairs! Lol!

Browns and Titans...such benchmark franchises!
I seem to recall a similar response last year when I guaranteed you that Chip Kelly would be fired for his ridiculously stupid moves. How'd that go, by the way?

Congrats on guaranteeing ~$58mil between Bradford, Daniel, and Wentz/Goff. Brilliance!

I wouldn't be hating this move if they had signed just one QB. Don't put all that money towards two QBs and then give up so many picks for another one.

Go look at any value chart... Titans and Browns won both trades.

I'm feeding you factual info, much like I have in other instances. I know you don't believe facts for whatever reason, but you'll get there one day!

If you guys are able to somehow trade Bradford or Daniel for ANYTHING, I won't be hating quite as much.
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Old 04-20-2016, 10:42 PM   #68186
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Another QB needy team could trade up to make sure they land Paxton Lynch.

Crazy.
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Old 04-20-2016, 10:46 PM   #68187
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What are the odds that the QB the Eagles draft is a bust... but every single pick Cleveland is getting will also turn out to be a bust?
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Old 04-20-2016, 11:01 PM   #68188
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Another QB needy team could trade up to make sure they land Paxton Lynch.

Crazy.
Chargers are very willing to deal their pick from what I have read.
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Old 04-20-2016, 11:28 PM   #68189
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I seem to recall a similar response last year when I guaranteed you that Chip Kelly would be fired for his ridiculously stupid moves. How'd that go, by the way?

Congrats on guaranteeing ~$58mil between Bradford, Daniel, and Wentz/Goff. Brilliance!

I wouldn't be hating this move if they had signed just one QB. Don't put all that money towards two QBs and then give up so many picks for another one.

Go look at any value chart... Titans and Browns won both trades.

I'm feeding you factual info, much like I have in other instances. I know you don't believe facts for whatever reason, but you'll get there one day!

If you guys are able to somehow trade Bradford or Daniel for ANYTHING, I won't be hating quite as much.
How have they won the trade without even drafting anyone yet?

Sure on the surface they favor both the Browns and Titans, but we won't know until a year, or more, down the road who really won.
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Old 04-20-2016, 11:34 PM   #68190
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How have they won the trade without even drafting anyone yet?

Sure on the surface they favor both the Browns and Titans, but we won't know until a year, or more, down the road who really won.
Now that I can agree with. I was talking strictly on the surface and the pure value of draft picks.

Browns drafting busts with the picks doesn't mean it was a good trade for the Eagles. Wentz/Goff has to become a legitimate franchise QB in order to really win the trade.

Currently, it's a horrible trade for the Eagles due to their investment to Bradford and Daniel...

Who are you hoping for? Goff or Wentz?
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Old 04-21-2016, 12:04 AM   #68191
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Do the Browns drafts busts or are they busts cause they play for the Browns? Chicken or egg.
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Old 04-21-2016, 12:39 AM   #68192
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Neither Goff nor Wentz are viewed as immediate starters. Of course that could change, but if it doesn't you still need a starting QB to bridge the gap.
Maybe Philly trades one of them to Jets. I hear they need a QB.
It makes no sense whatsoever to take a 1 or 2 on a guy you're not expecting to start right away.
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Old 04-21-2016, 12:52 AM   #68193
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Now that I can agree with. I was talking strictly on the surface and the pure value of draft picks.

Browns drafting busts with the picks doesn't mean it was a good trade for the Eagles. Wentz/Goff has to become a legitimate franchise QB in order to really win the trade.

Currently, it's a horrible trade for the Eagles due to their investment to Bradford and Daniel...

Who are you hoping for? Goff or Wentz?
They both look good, from what I've read. Sure, I could probably make a list of good things and bad, but the proof will be when these guys line up under center.
Just like with Mariota and Winston last year. Both showed flashes, but also some growing pains. I used to think that the pitcher position, in baseball, was the most important position in all sports, but it's now NFL QB. It's just incredible what these guys have to learn, and how fast they have to learn it.

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It makes no sense whatsoever to take a 1 or 2 on a guy you're not expecting to start right away.
Sure it does. We took McNabb #2 and he didn't start right away. He had a fairly successful career.
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Old 04-21-2016, 02:27 AM   #68194
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Lol. Rickah comparing QBs to how they were developed in 1998 to how they are now. Any real good QB starts his first year. Last time a great QB was drafted and didn't start right away was Rodgers and that was because HOF Favre was keeping a hold on the job.
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Old 04-21-2016, 02:38 AM   #68195
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Old 04-21-2016, 02:55 AM   #68196
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Lol. That's all you've got when your franchise is in shambles and you have to vigorously defend your team's actions
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Old 04-21-2016, 03:03 AM   #68197
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Do the Browns drafts busts or are they busts cause they play for the Browns? Chicken or egg.
It's gotta be both. Incompetence breeds incompetence. Poor scouting and management decision --> Losing seasons --> Players who are discontent and less motivated
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Old 04-21-2016, 03:18 AM   #68198
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Shambles? Really? Never got that memo.
Now the Jets...there's a team in shambles. Speaking of the QB position, who is your starting QB? Geno Smith? Wahahahahaahahahaaahah!
Fitzpicktrick?


I know you're still incredibly bitter about the complete choke job the Jets did last season. They sure loaded up for a run...except they tripped coming out of the gate. Did I miss anything?
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Old 04-21-2016, 03:58 AM   #68199
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It might be delayed because of the flooding in Houston, but it should be getting to you soon .

As for us, we are actively searching for a QB like many other franchises. But don't confuse our sensible GM, who is being wise in not handing out ridiculous contracts to bum QBs, with yours, who gets his head slapped for the Rams' sloppy seconds .


Personally I'd be ok going 0-16 if it meant drafting Deshaun the following year.

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Old 04-21-2016, 04:00 AM   #68200
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And as I said:
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