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Old 12-13-2016, 10:04 PM   #73341
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Give it up NFL. American football will never catch on outside of the U.S. It's a uniquely American game that the rest of the world doesn't care about. They've been playing NFL games in the UK for a long time now and nobody over there outside of a handful of American ex-pats care about them. All the UK cares about is soccer. Same with Mexico for that matter.
That doesnt make any sense.

Thats like saying hockey will never catch on as big as football in US so they should make the nhl all canada teams.

If nfl makes $$ from londonish things theyll keep doing them.
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Old 12-13-2016, 10:32 PM   #73342
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Give it up NFL. American football will never catch on outside of the U.S. It's a uniquely American game that the rest of the world doesn't care about. They've been playing NFL games in the UK for a long time now and nobody over there outside of a handful of American ex-pats care about them. All the UK cares about is soccer. Same with Mexico for that matter.
I tend to agree. It's not like the NFL has been in a rush sending the top teams over there. It's largely been the doormats of the league. That alone is pretty telling.
What's wrong with different areas of the world having their preferred sports? I was never a big fan of this initiative, by the NFL, but I get why they want to do it. I'm sure most of the folks over there have, or can watch via, satellite.
Just look at the borderline debacle that was the game in Mexico City. I'm sure players, QBs especially, can't wait to have a laser pointer beamed in their face for an entire game.
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I tend to agree. It's not like the NFL has been in a rush sending the top teams over there. It's largely been the doormats of the league. That alone is pretty telling.

What's wrong with different areas of the world having their preferred sports? I was never a big fan of this initiative, by the NFL, but I get why they want to do it. I'm sure most of the folks over there have, or can watch via, satellite.

Just look at the borderline debacle that was the game in Mexico City. I'm sure players, QBs especially, can't wait to have a laser pointer beamed in their face for an entire game.

Cuz Roger wants all his fat little fingers in all the pies.
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Cuz Roger wants all his fat little fingers in all the pies.
Roger only does what the owners tell him to do.

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Old 12-13-2016, 11:11 PM   #73345
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Roger only does what the owners tell him to do.

To a certain extent but he's also got his own agenda.
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Old 12-13-2016, 11:23 PM   #73346
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Cuz Roger wants all his fat little fingers in all the pies.
It's time for new leadership in the NFL.
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Old 12-14-2016, 12:19 AM   #73347
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It's time for new leadership in the NFL.
Tagliabue was stagnant but at least he wasn't corrupt and he didn't try to make the NFL into something it shouldn't be.
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Old 12-14-2016, 12:20 AM   #73348
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Goodell is the most corrupt commissioner in sports.
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Old 12-14-2016, 12:43 AM   #73349
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Football is a North American sport. It hasn't caught on internationally in previous attempts for good reason. But, it doesn't need to turn into a worldwide sport. We're perfectly proud of our American pastime.

Personally, I'd like to see a Canadian team in the NFL. It's much more logistically feasible than London.
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Old 12-14-2016, 12:54 AM   #73350
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That doesnt make any sense.

Thats like saying hockey will never catch on as big as football in US so they should make the nhl all canada teams.

If nfl makes $$ from londonish things theyll keep doing them.
Because in the long run, it is not feasible. How did NFL Europe go?

It's a logistics nightmare for each time, and expensive. Takes away a home game from the teams. Jet lag, messes up schedule leading up and afterwards. Just play where the team is located and stop this foolishness. NFL is all about the greed but we all know they don't need to go after it.
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Old 12-14-2016, 01:08 AM   #73351
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To a certain extent but he's also got his own agenda.
What can he do outside of the owners requests? He's basically in their employ.
Sure they may bark a bit in front of reporters, but the bottom line is Roger lining their pockets with a ton of cash. Which is why they pay him very well.

In other words, you can't throw Roger under the bus without placing equal blame on the owners.
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Old 12-14-2016, 02:39 AM   #73352
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Tagliabue was stagnant but at least he wasn't corrupt and he didn't try to make the NFL into something it shouldn't be.
EXACTLY, the main reason why I was a HUGE fan of Tags.
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Old 12-14-2016, 02:45 AM   #73353
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What can he do outside of the owners requests? He's basically in their employ.
Sure they may bark a bit in front of reporters, but the bottom line is Roger lining their pockets with a ton of cash. Which is why they pay him very well.

In other words, you can't throw Roger under the bus without placing equal blame on the owners.
He is in their employ, but he obviously got the keys to the league office and went on his complete and total power trip to where he/they were deciding on anything and everything in such a haphazard, unorthodox, half-assed manner and created the circus that it is today. That's part of his agenda. But yes, until they shackle him a helluva lot more or outright fire him, they are partly to blame.
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Old 12-14-2016, 03:05 AM   #73354
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So Devin Hester is waived. Might be the end for him. Do people think he's a future Hall of Famer? While he never put up huge numbers as a receiver the guy is possibly the best kick returner in history and owns a ton of return records.
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So Devin Hester is waived. Might be the end for him. Do people think he's a future Hall of Famer? While he never put up huge numbers as a receiver the guy is possibly the best kick returner in history and owns a ton of return records.
I would say if he broke Prime Time's record for most return TDs he might get in eventually when he's old.
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He is in their employ, but he obviously got the keys to the league office and went on his complete and total power trip to where he/they were deciding on anything and everything in such a haphazard, unorthodox, half-assed manner and created the circus that it is today. That's part of his agenda. But yes, until they shackle him a helluva lot more or outright fire him, they are partly to blame.
If Roger wants to jump he has to ask the owners "how high". He's just an extension of their collective voice. Basically takes all the heat, while they look like saints. Which is why folks need to lump the owners in with the Goodell hate.

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So Devin Hester is waived. Might be the end for him. Do people think he's a future Hall of Famer? While he never put up huge numbers as a receiver the guy is possibly the best kick returner in history and owns a ton of return records.
I would think so. Especially with the way the game is going his total return TD record may never be broken. I don't think he's fist ballot, but certainly a worthy entry.
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NAME POSITION TEAM FIRST SECOND THIRD FOURTH FIFTH TOTAL
Tom Brady QB Patriots 7 4 1 0 0 54
Derek Carr QB Raiders 2 2 3 3 2 35
Matthew Stafford QB Lions 1 4 3 0 2 32
Ezekiel Elliott RB Cowboys 2 0 2 5 2 28
Matt Ryan QB Falcons 1 2 3 0 2 24
Aaron Rodgers QB Packers 0 1 1 1 0 9
Dak Prescott QB Cowboys 0 0 0 2 0 4
Khalil Mack DE Raiders 0 0 0 1 1 3
David Johnson RB Cardinals 0 0 0 1 1 3
Von Miller LB Broncos 0 0 0 0 2 2
Justin Tucker K Ravens 0 0 0 0 1 1
Is the kicker for the Ravens seriously on this list? LOL in no scenario ever would I vote for a kicker to be MVP, not even Dan Bailey.
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Is the kicker for the Ravens seriously on this list? LOL in no scenario ever would I vote for a kicker to be MVP, not even Dan Bailey.
List looks about right. Except I would place Johnson a little further up the list.
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If Roger wants to jump he has to ask the owners "how high". He's just an extension of their collective voice. Basically takes all the heat, while they look like saints. Which is why folks need to lump the owners in with the Goodell hate.
So all the crap going on for months and months about Deflategate was being driven by the owners? Sorry, I ain't buying that.
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Oh look, Stafford is in top 3..
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