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San Francisco 49ers 28 50.91%
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:55 AM   #74561
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Trade Payton to LA for picks, and maybe Gregg Williams.
Trade Dennis Allen to Cleveland for a turkey sandwich.
Hire a defense centric Head Coach.
Fire Mickey Loomis, and replace him with Peyton Manning.
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:56 AM   #74562
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Matt Ryan has made a very strong case for MVP and/or Offensive POY. Ultimately I think Brady wins MVP though.
I know he will, but Brady shouldn't win. He has played well, but if you project his numbers over 16 games, he's still not at Ryan's level this year. He'll win literally because he's Tom Brady and nothing else. His team was 3-1 with the 2nd and 3rd string guys. Where is Atlanta with Matt Schaub?
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:58 AM   #74563
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I know he will, but Brady shouldn't win. He has played well, but if you project his numbers over 16 games, he's still not at Ryan's level this year. He'll win literally because he's Tom Brady and nothing else. His team was 3-1 with the 2nd and 3rd string guys. Where is Atlanta with Matt Schaub?
I would give it to Derek Carr, Khalil Mack, Matt Ryan, Ezekiel Elliott and Dak Prescott before I would give it to Tom Brady.
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:03 AM   #74564
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No direction in Chargerland...
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:03 AM   #74565
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I don't know how someone who was suspended for cheating can be eligible for MVP.
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:06 AM   #74566
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I know he will, but Brady shouldn't win. He has played well, but if you project his numbers over 16 games, he's still not at Ryan's level this year. He'll win literally because he's Tom Brady and nothing else. His team was 3-1 with the 2nd and 3rd string guys. Where is Atlanta with Matt Schaub?
On the flip side Brady went 11-1, arguably adding 3-1 or 4-0 to that, had he not been suspended, besting Matt Ryan's 11-5 record. Either way a better win percentage.
This is why I'm never a big fan of awards, it's all opinion and political.
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:08 AM   #74567
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I don't know how someone who was suspended for cheating can be eligible for MVP.
I have no idea who the voters are but I know past history is a factor and Matty Ice's past history will not help him. Brady has had a top 5 QB career and put together a remarkable age 39 season, so a lot of voters will dismiss the cheating suspension, especially since it was for
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:09 AM   #74568
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On the flip side Brady went 11-1, arguably adding 3-1 or 4-0 to that, had he not been suspended, besting Matt Ryan's 11-5 record. Either way a better win percentage.
This is why I'm never a big fan of awards, it's all opinion and political.
His team went 11-1, yes.

Matt Ryan was the only QB in the league with a touchdown pass in all 16 games. Brady didn't even do that in his 12.

In common games, Ryan had better numbers as well.

Switch the Falcons and Patriots Ds and see which has the better record.
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:10 AM   #74569
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His team went 11-1, yes.

Matt Ryan was the only QB in the league with a touchdown pass in all 16 games. Brady didn't even do that in his 12.

In common games, Ryan had better numbers as well.

Switch the Falcons and Patriots Ds and see which has the better record.
Hey all the non-Patriots fans agree with you, Matt Ryan had one of the best seasons in NFL history and SHOULD win MVP but most likely won't.
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:13 AM   #74570
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If we're keeping track, this is what the open Head Coach jobs for 2017 looks like:

Chargers
Jags
Broncos
Rams
Bills

49ers and Saints may have potential vacancies as well. Think the Bengals or Jets have a vacancy?
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:14 AM   #74571
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His team went 11-1, yes.

Matt Ryan was the only QB in the league with a touchdown pass in all 16 games. Brady didn't even do that in his 12.

In common games, Ryan had better numbers as well.

Switch the Falcons and Patriots Ds and see which has the better record.
I'm not saying Ryan won't win, just that there's a case for and against both...assuming it's a two horse race.
Again, it's all opinion and politics.
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:17 AM   #74572
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If we're keeping track, this is what the open Head Coach jobs for 2017 looks like:

Chargers
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Broncos
Rams
Bills

49ers and Saints may have potential vacancies as well. Think the Bengals or Jets have a vacancy?
Marvin Lewis sounds safe, I could see Bowles getting jettisoned during the 2017 season even if he's safe for now.
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:22 AM   #74573
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Connor Cook or Matt McGloin?
Id go Cook all the way.
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:22 AM   #74574
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Id go Cook all the way.
Wonder who they'll pick, could well determine whether or not you beat the worst team in the play-offs or not.
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:29 AM   #74575
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Cincinnati should have fired Lewis 6 years ago. No idea how he keeps his job.

Glad to see SD fire McCoy. Just wasn't getting it done.

I don't see the hype in Sean Payton, but whatever.

Brady didn't cheat..

And Stafford breaks Marino's record, now fastest QB to reach 30,000 passing yards.
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Old 01-02-2017, 01:34 AM   #74576
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Al Michaels just said "if you're going to be a coach or GM, Gillette Stadium is a good place to learn the Kraft". I say, "Well, 'course it is!"
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Wonder who they'll pick, could well determine whether or not you beat the worst team in the play-offs or not.
I just read that McGloin is extremely doubtful for next weekend anyway with his shoulder injury. I actually liked the poise that Cook had. We'll see what happens.

Today was the first time in his career that Conner Cook was in uniform/pads. Now he's a playoff starter

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I hope Lions win so we get Packers Seahawks.
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Old 01-02-2017, 03:08 AM   #74579
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Rodgers isn't a top 3 qb in the NFL.

that drive right there is vintage Rodgers and why he's so good.
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Connor Cook vs Tom Savage. What a ratings bonanza that should be
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