Can the Broncos front office trade Tebow without being destroyed by Tebow fans?
Depending on what they get it's entirely possible. Once the off-season hits and the Broncos are (most likely) under 5 wins, they could shop him hard to the Dolphins and get 2 first round picks. He isn't worth it talent wise, but fan wise he totally is. Denver needs a lot more than a QB who can draw in some fans.
Peyton Hillis (hamstring) will run in the pool on Thursday and is officially day to day.
The Browns are refusing to rule Hillis out for this week, but he looks like a longshot. Hillis couldn't even do light running on Wednesday and is out of practice again today. Look for Montario Hardesty to draw the start against the Seahawks' underrated run defense Sunday.
The Ronnie Brown to the Lions traded was voided because Eagles doctors discovered a brain tumor during Jerome Harrison's physical. The trade may have saved Harrison's life because doctors wouldn't have discovered the tumor if Harrison hadn't been forced to undergo a physical as part of the trade. Harrison's long-term prognosis is good but he isn't expected to play again this season.
The Ronnie Brown to the Lions traded was voided because Eagles doctors discovered a brain tumor during Jerome Harrison's physical. The trade may have saved Harrison's life because doctors wouldn't have discovered the tumor if Harrison hadn't been forced to undergo a physical as part of the trade. Harrison's long-term prognosis is good but he isn't expected to play again this season.
The Ronnie Brown to the Lions traded was voided because Eagles doctors discovered a brain tumor during Jerome Harrison's physical. The trade may have saved Harrison's life because doctors wouldn't have discovered the tumor if Harrison hadn't been forced to undergo a physical as part of the trade. Harrison's long-term prognosis is good but he isn't expected to play again this season.
Raiders placed RE Matt Shaughnessy (shoulder) on injured reserve, ending his season.
Shaughnessy hadn't played since Week 3, but it's still a big loss for a Raiders defensive line hoping to get back its best end later in the year. The 25-year-old former third-round steal racked up seven sacks and graded out as Pro Football Focus' No. 5 run-stopping defensive end last season. Oakland will close out the year using a rotation of Jarvis Moss and Kamerion Wimbley at right defensive end. Shaughnessy will return in 2012 on a cheap, $565,000 base salary.
"Man, we got 11 games. What are you talking about?" Dansby said Wednesday, according to the South Florida Sun Sentinel. "We can't look at next season. We've got 11 games. We can win 'em out, and then what? Then you'd be biting your tongue. Those guys that are saying that are fair-weather fans. They're not real Dolphins fans."
That's a strong statement for Dansby to make, especially when you consider just how many Dolphins supporters want their so-far 0-5 team to "suck" enough to get first crack at Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck.
"It's not right, bro. It's not right," Dansby said. "We put too much into this, man, to have the fans say that -- period, point blank -- or even promote that campaign. It's kind of sad."
Couldn't agree more. Unfortunately, I think I'm in the minority...
I really think MIA NEEDS to trade for Tim Tebow. He may not win them games, but he will definitely sell out the stadium week after week and keep the fans happy a long time.
No. The only way the Broncos are gonna trade Tebow is if he ends up being awful the rest of the year and they find his replacement and if that is the case, nobody is gonna give them any picks for him. Besides, Miami has a very good chance at a high draft pick this year and even if they don't get Andrew Luck, they can get one of the other top QBs in the draft. Miami needs to improve the team, then the ticket sales will come. Honestly, I think by the end of the year Tebow fans will finally realize that he isn't the answer and your ticket sales plan wouldn't be very successful anyway.
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Depending on what they get it's entirely possible. Once the off-season hits and the Broncos are (most likely) under 5 wins, they could shop him hard to the Dolphins and get 2 first round picks. He isn't worth it talent wise, but fan wise he totally is. Denver needs a lot more than a QB who can draw in some fans.
That will never happen. It wouldn't take nearly that much to get Tebow and even if it did, you think the Dolphins are gonna give up what will likely be a top 5 pick plus what would probably be another top 5 pick in 2013 for a quarterback who most experts and even the Broncos coaching staff says can't play? Even if he plays decent this year and the Dolphins(or any other team) give the Broncos a mid round pick for Tebow, the ticket sales boost probably wouldn't last very long after the fans finally get past what Tebow did in college and realize that he is a mediocre NFL QB at best.
The Ronnie Brown to the Lions traded was voided because Eagles doctors discovered a brain tumor during Jerome Harrison's physical. The trade may have saved Harrison's life because doctors wouldn't have discovered the tumor if Harrison hadn't been forced to undergo a physical as part of the trade. Harrison's long-term prognosis is good but he isn't expected to play again this season.
If it ever becomes an option for re-alignment the Browns need to support it big time. Or just move.
We don't want to re-align. That would kill the long heated/hatred rivalry with the Steelers...not happening. As far as moving...forget it. Art Modell already screwed the city of Cleveland and all of their fans when he moved them to Baltimore for the '96 season. We haven't had a decent team since the '94 Browns went 11-5. We've been to the playoffs once since then and that team went 9-7 and then got pasted in the first round by Pittsburgh. What we want, is to see progression on offense, defense & special teams. The Browns are worse than stagnant...they're digressing.
We don't want to re-align. That would kill the long heated/hatred rivalry with the Steelers...not happening. As far as moving...forget it. Art Modell already screwed the city of Cleveland and all of their fans when he moved them to Baltimore for the '96 season. We haven't had a decent team since the '94 Browns went 11-5. We've been to the playoffs once since then and that team went 9-7 and then got pasted in the first round by Pittsburgh. What we want, is to see progression on offense, defense & special teams. The Browns are worse than stagnant...they're digressing.
Well it doesn't help when you're basically being held hostage by your best offensive player. Hillis is a beast and a half, they need to pay him or else get rid of him this offseason.
ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- Center Kent Hull might have been the silent "K" on a Buffalo Bills "K-Gun" offense led by Hall of Fame quarterback Jim Kelly. But make no mistake, it was Hull's grit and quick thinking that provided the no-huddle attack true pop in its heyday in the early 1990s.
Hull was remembered Wednesday as much for his leadership and toughness on the field as for his gentlemanly nature off it. The 50-year-old Hull died suddenly Tuesday in his native Greenwood, Miss.
"Kent was a terrific player for us, who was often overshadowed by some of the bigger names we had in our Super Bowl teams," Bills owner Ralph Wilson said in a statement. "But Kent was one of the key components of our team and of our high-powered offenses in the 1990s."
Wilson added there was so much more to Hull than the No. 67 jersey he wore for the Bills from 1986 to 1996.
"He was a true gentleman who was as nice as anyone you'd ever want to meet, and as tough as any player I've ever known," Wilson added. "If you were lucky enough to have Kent as a friend, you had a cherished friend for life."
Leflore County, Miss., coroner Will Gnemi ruled that Hull died from gastrointestinal bleeding.
His death came as a shock to his former teammates and coaches.
"It's certainly a sad day for his family, the Bills family and all of those who loved him," Hall of Fame defensive end Bruce Smith said. "Kent was an incredible teammate, human being and friend. No matter what your status was on the team, he treated everyone the same."
Hall of Fame running back Thurman Thomas recalled how Hull took him under his wing when he first broke into the NFL in 1988.
"I would talk noise on the field only because I knew that he'd be there every time to defend and protect me," Thomas said. "I owe a lot of that stitching on my Hall of Fame jacket to Kent Hull."
Thomas added: "He was my teammate, a brother and best friend. He will be in my heart forever."
Hull was a three-time Pro Bowl selection and anchored the offensive line on a team that made four straight Super Bowl appearances, all losses, from 1991 to 1994.
He missed only two games with the Bills, and at one point played in 121 straight, earning him the nickname "Tough."
Hull broke into pro football in 1983 with the USFL New Jersey Generals, and was signed by the Bills once the league folded.
Hull was also a star at Mississippi State from 1979 to 1982, and played in one of the Bulldogs' most memorable games, a 6-3 win over top-ranked Alabama in 1980.
"He had the warmth and strength that was very attractive to other people," said Mike McEnany, Hull's roommate for two seasons at Mississippi State. "He was the kind of guy that if he had 20 bucks, you had 20 bucks. And he was an amazing football player, but he never felt comfortable talking about it. He wanted to talk about you."
McEnany added: "He was the kind of guy that everyone wants their son to be like when they grow up."
Hull was heavily involved in charitable organizations, including the United Negro College Fund and the Make-A-Wish Foundation.
Upon his retirement, Hull focused on working his large cattle ranch in northeastern Mississippi.
Bills special teams coordinator Bruce DeHaven first met Hull with the Generals, and the two were later reunited in Buffalo.
"Kent was the kind of guy who didn't say a lot, but he could give you more meaning in one sentence than some guys could in a full speech," DeHaven said. "I've always told people that of all the stars that we had, the backbone of that team were (linebacker) Darryl Talley and Kent Hull."
Former Bills general manager and current Indianapolis Colts vice chairman Bill Polian played a role in signing Hull.
"His physical toughness, work ethic, intelligence, character and sense of humor made him an undisputed leader on a team filled with Hall of Famers and stars," Polian said, in a statement provided by the Colts. "He was a fine man, a good friend and a true professional."
Hull is survived by his wife, Kay, and two children, Drew and Ellen.
Wilson and Knight Funeral Home in Greenwood, announced there will be a visitation Friday from 12:30 p.m. to 2 p.m. local time at Greenwood's First Presbyterian Church's Shuler Hall, followed by a service inside the church. He will be buried later in the day at Odd Fellows Cemetery in Greenwood.
This is a great piece on Hull. It's a travesty that he's not in the Hall of Fame.
I hope our MNF game against the Ravens won't be like last year when we hosted the Titans and got nailed 30-3.
These defenses aren't giving Gabbert time to the breath to build some confidence and I don't see the Ravens Dline softening up. Another blow out game possibly unless our defense plays well which shined pretty much all year long aside from Jones-Drew. As far as putting points up on the board, good luck to us.
We've been to the playoffs once since then and that team went 9-7 and then got pasted in the first round by Pittsburgh.
That reminds me of that triple tie between Miami, N-E and Cleveland. I thought we had the tie breaker, and then I heard about the "strength of victory" tie-breaker for the first time...
That reminds me of that triple tie between Miami, N-E and Cleveland. I thought we had the tie breaker, and then I heard about the "strength of victory" tie-breaker for the first time...
Record
Divisional record
Conference record
Strength of victory
Coin toss
Is how I believe it's decided.
That reminds me of that triple tie between Miami, N-E and Cleveland. I thought we had the tie breaker, and then I heard about the "strength of victory" tie-breaker for the first time...
I remember that Mike. I believe it's 5th or 6th down the list. What a way to NOT make it in.
Well it doesn't help when you're basically being held hostage by your best offensive player. Hillis is a beast and a half, they need to pay him or else get rid of him this offseason.(
The "Tank", not trying, is hurting our offense and has probably divided the room which is NOT good. We were 5-11 last year with a happy, healthy Hillis. Our problems are many. His contract isn't the only thing which requires addressing.
It's absolutely ridiculous how much publicity the Broncos-Dolphina game is getting on sports radio/TV. It's all I've heard this week. We're talking about an 0-5 team vs. a 1-4 team. You'll probably even see a lot of idiots wearing Tebow Gator jerseys at the game in Miami.
The Ronnie Brown to the Lions traded was voided because Eagles doctors discovered a brain tumor during Jerome Harrison's physical. The trade may have saved Harrison's life because doctors wouldn't have discovered the tumor if Harrison hadn't been forced to undergo a physical as part of the trade. Harrison's long-term prognosis is good but he isn't expected to play again this season.
During training camp for the 2011 season Patterson collapsed and suffered a seizure. Patterson was diagnosed with cerebral arteriovenous malformation.
This sort of thing happens quite a bit in all levels of sports. An athlete suffers some run of the mill injury or has a physical done and some life threatening condition gets caught by total luck.
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What we want, is to see progression on offense, defense & special teams. The Browns are worse than stagnant...they're digressing. 
that is crazy!!!
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